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Labour loses Oxford council majority after ninth Gaza resignation

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posted on Nov, 5 2023 @ 11:11 PM
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Labour has lost its majority of Oxford City Council after a ninth councillor resigned from the party.

Councillor Barbara Coyne is the latest to leave in protest against Labour's stance on the war in Gaza.

The Headington Hill & Northway councillor's exit means Labour is now left with 23 elected representatives, with 25 in opposition.

The eight who have previously stepped down say Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer needs to call for a ceasefire.


So Labour had 32 elected representatives and an overall majority. After the resignations Labour has 23 elected representatives with 25 elected representatives in the opposition. The article didn't specify how many representatives the other political parties have at the moment. The councillors resigned over the decision by the Labour Leader not to call for an immediate ceasefire.


Councillor Barbara Coyne is the ninth councillor to resign and she said the following



"The Labour leadership continues to issue hollow statements as we watch a genocide unfold before our eyes is, in my view, unconscionable.

I have resigned from the party because I can no longer stand with a leadership that claims to value international law, human rights and equality, but will not condemn clear violations of these by Israel, and call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

Self-defence does not justify crimes against humanity; no violence against civilians should be condoned


And I very much agree with councillor Barbara Coyne as I said on many occasions before that self defence is not an excuse for the mass killings of innocent civilians and for committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.



In addition...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Labour: Burnley councillors quit party over Israel-Gaza ceasefire stance


A council leader and 10 councillors have quit the Labour Party over Sir Keir Starmer's decision not to push for a ceasefire in Gaza.

Burnley Council leader Afrasiab Anwar, who had called for the Labour leader to resign over the issue, is among those to leave the party.

In a statement, the councillors said their memberships were "untenable"



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 03:17 AM
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The're cowards with no spine. Walking away solves nothing.

Innocent people should not be killed anywhere in the world, it's always evil, HOWEVER, if you live in a 'state in name only' that elects a rampant terrorist organisation (whose only stated goal is the annihilation of Israel) and then allow them to use your resources to thrive - what do you think will happen?

People keep using the argument 'but Muh occupation' as though nothing preceded it, 'Palestinians' have never, and will never accept Israels right to exist, EVER.

They reject the one who can bring peace, and will bring peace, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince of peace!

Until Jews and Muslims accept the ONE who brings peace there will be none. They will accept the false Messiah soon enough, then this gets really messy.

Ishmael and Issac were NOT offered on the mountain, Jesus was, the lamb of God. Until people see this, there will never be peace.

Do not get drawn into the ethnos vs ethnos, it's a trap. All are equal to God, there is no Muslim, no Jew. All are grafted in. a reply to: Leviathan4


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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 03:28 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

"self defence is not an excuse for the mass killings of innocent civilians"

What was the excuse of hamas?
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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 04:05 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Saving the world by virtue signal, how modern 'progressive' of them.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 04:31 AM
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Sick freaks.
This is the only danger I can see to labour winning the election, too much of this and they will turn off so many of the people who would have voted for them that they will never get elected.
edit on thpMon, 06 Nov 2023 04:55:02 -060020232023-11-06T04:55:02-06:00kAmerica/Chicago30000000k by SprocketUK because: spelling



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 04:32 AM
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If they disagree with the stated party policy so strongly and the party authorities are unwilling to entertain a debate internally then they should resign tbh.

The labour party is extremely fractured and factional, while also cursed with having the servile pro-EU Momentum in charge.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 05:05 AM
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Spam removed
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posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 05:24 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4
I suspect that will still leave the Council with a majority against "demanding an immediate ceasefire".

If this kind of division carries on into the next election, we could end up with Starmer leading a pro-Israel national coalition.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.bbc.co.uk...


Labour has lost its majority of Oxford City Council after a ninth councillor resigned from the party.

Councillor Barbara Coyne is the latest to leave in protest against Labour's stance on the war in Gaza.

The Headington Hill & Northway councillor's exit means Labour is now left with 23 elected representatives, with 25 in opposition.

The eight who have previously stepped down say Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer needs to call for a ceasefire.


So Labour had 32 elected representatives and an overall majority. After the resignations Labour has 23 elected representatives with 25 elected representatives in the opposition. The article didn't specify how many representatives the other political parties have at the moment. The councillors resigned over the decision by the Labour Leader not to call for an immediate ceasefire.


Councillor Barbara Coyne is the ninth councillor to resign and she said the following



"The Labour leadership continues to issue hollow statements as we watch a genocide unfold before our eyes is, in my view, unconscionable.

I have resigned from the party because I can no longer stand with a leadership that claims to value international law, human rights and equality, but will not condemn clear violations of these by Israel, and call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

Self-defence does not justify crimes against humanity; no violence against civilians should be condoned


And I very much agree with councillor Barbara Coyne as I said on many occasions before that self defence is not an excuse for the mass killings of innocent civilians and for committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.



In addition...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Labour: Burnley councillors quit party over Israel-Gaza ceasefire stance


A council leader and 10 councillors have quit the Labour Party over Sir Keir Starmer's decision not to push for a ceasefire in Gaza.

Burnley Council leader Afrasiab Anwar, who had called for the Labour leader to resign over the issue, is among those to leave the party.

In a statement, the councillors said their memberships were "untenable"







Absolutely no ceasefire until hostages are released, hamas pays for their past and present war crimes they continue to perpetrate daily and hamas is eradicated.

They’re such loving people. Watch this vid below, these are the sickest most evil people on the planet, F them and their cries for ceasefire! This is what happens when you’re stupid enough to elect a terrorist group to represent you. ZERO F’s given to Gaza😠😠😠
www.facebook.com...
edit on 6-11-2023 by NeonKnights because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 06:23 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
Sick freaks.
This is the only danger I can see to labour winning the election, too much of this and they will turn off so many of the people who would have voted for them that they will never get elected.


Yup it's dumb - Labour were rightly called out for their Anti-Semitism under Corbyn and a Muslim fundamentalist group Mend/Cordoba Foundation trying to hijack the Party and were set up in support of Hamas after Hamas were proscribed as a terror group.

If Starmer backs a ceasefire prior to release of hostages and/or dismantling of Hamas then they're likely to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and the complete Tory #show will continue.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 06:51 AM
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I think these councillors should shut their mouths about foreign affairs that have absolutely nothing to do with them and just DO THE JOB THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO. ie. RUN THEIR BOROUGH.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: sine.nomine
a reply to: Leviathan4

"self defence is not an excuse for the mass killings of innocent civilians"

What was the excuse of hamas?


They had no excuse.
We have discussed it several times. It's not a point for debate. But it doesn't justify atrocities by Israel based on the atrocities committed by Hamas.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:02 AM
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a reply to: crayzeed

Tall order for a labour councillor. Or any councillor for that matter.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:03 AM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI2

I suspect that will still leave the Council with a majority against "demanding an immediate ceasefire".

If this kind of division carries on into the next election, we could end up with Starmer leading a pro-Israel national coalition.

Anytime a group picks sides they kind of end up losing in the end. Their best bet would be to neither support nor call for a ceasefire as they will have a mixed bag of constituents that will vote against them no matter what side they pick.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

They had no excuse.
We have discussed it several times. It's not a point for debate. But it doesn't justify atrocities by Israel based on the atrocities committed by Hamas.


Well, it is too bad you are not the supreme ruler of the world to set the morality for all to live by.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:09 AM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
The're cowards with no spine. Walking away solves nothing.

Innocent people should not be killed anywhere in the world, it's always evil, HOWEVER, if you live in a 'state in name only' that elects a rampant terrorist organisation (whose only stated goal is the annihilation of Israel) and then allow them to use your resources to thrive - what do you think will happen?

People keep using the argument 'but Muh occupation' as though nothing preceded it, 'Palestinians' have never, and will never accept Israels right to exist, EVER.

They reject the one who can bring peace, and will bring peace, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince of peace!

Until Jews and Muslims accept the ONE who brings peace there will be none. They will accept the false Messiah soon enough, then this gets really messy.

Ishmael and Issac were NOT offered on the mountain, Jesus was, the lamb of God. Until people see this, there will never be peace.

Do not get drawn into the ethnos vs ethnos, it's a trap. All are equal to God, there is no Muslim, no Jew. All are grafted in. a reply to: Leviathan4



I agree with you that innocent people should not be targeted anywhere in the world.

I don't think these councillors are cowards as their party doesn't argue for a ceasefire. You would expect labour parties to stand for immediate ceasefire and if this doesn't happen you are likely to see resignations which have happened already and a lot of unrest within the party.

The comment about Jesus Christ being the only true saviour that Jews and Muslims don't accept and until they do there would be no peace, seems to me to be irrelevant to the conversation.

No evidence there is an Abrahamic God or evidence he had a son here on Earth....who came to save us....



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:12 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Leviathan4

They had no excuse.
We have discussed it several times. It's not a point for debate. But it doesn't justify atrocities by Israel based on the atrocities committed by Hamas.



Well, it is too bad you are not the supreme ruler of the world to set the morality for all to live by.


Good you recognise the high standards I have and morals. In contrast to others on this platform who have no issue with mass killings and war destruction.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.bbc.co.uk...


Labour has lost its majority of Oxford City Council after a ninth councillor resigned from the party.

Councillor Barbara Coyne is the latest to leave in protest against Labour's stance on the war in Gaza.

The Headington Hill & Northway councillor's exit means Labour is now left with 23 elected representatives, with 25 in opposition.

The eight who have previously stepped down say Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer needs to call for a ceasefire.


So Labour had 32 elected representatives and an overall majority. After the resignations Labour has 23 elected representatives with 25 elected representatives in the opposition. The article didn't specify how many representatives the other political parties have at the moment. The councillors resigned over the decision by the Labour Leader not to call for an immediate ceasefire.


Councillor Barbara Coyne is the ninth councillor to resign and she said the following



"The Labour leadership continues to issue hollow statements as we watch a genocide unfold before our eyes is, in my view, unconscionable.

I have resigned from the party because I can no longer stand with a leadership that claims to value international law, human rights and equality, but will not condemn clear violations of these by Israel, and call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

Self-defence does not justify crimes against humanity; no violence against civilians should be condoned


And I very much agree with councillor Barbara Coyne as I said on many occasions before that self defence is not an excuse for the mass killings of innocent civilians and for committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.



In addition...

www.bbc.co.uk...

Labour: Burnley councillors quit party over Israel-Gaza ceasefire stance


A council leader and 10 councillors have quit the Labour Party over Sir Keir Starmer's decision not to push for a ceasefire in Gaza.

Burnley Council leader Afrasiab Anwar, who had called for the Labour leader to resign over the issue, is among those to leave the party.

In a statement, the councillors said their memberships were "untenable"







Absolutely no ceasefire until hostages are released, hamas pays for their past and present war crimes they continue to perpetrate daily and hamas is eradicated.

They’re such loving people. Watch this vid below, these are the sickest most evil people on the planet, F them and their cries for ceasefire! This is what happens when you’re stupid enough to elect a terrorist group to represent you. ZERO F’s given to Gaza😠😠😠
www.facebook.com...


Problem with this is you eradicate the civilians instead of Hamas. Unless you think all these killed are from Hamas but in reality they are innocent civilians, mostly women and children. Yes they should release the hostages but that won't stop the mass killings of civilians.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4
In contrast to others on this platform who have no issue with mass killings and war destruction.


You and Gandi are like peas in a pod, but that doesn't change the nature of reality in the world. So let's say Israel stands down and demands all Hamas around the world to be put in prison and stand trial for crimes against humanity.

How would that play out? It's kind of like the whole situation where everyone has an opinion but no one is willing to help the situation and all they do is blame the Jews for everything when the reality is no one wants them.

I can tell you how that all would play out...in 6 months Hamas would launch another few 1000 missiles at Israel right back on track as they always been, and of course, people will be bitching Israel is to blame still.



posted on Nov, 6 2023 @ 07:28 AM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

Problem with this is you eradicate the civilians instead of Hamas. Unless you think all these killed are from Hamas but in reality they are innocent civilians, mostly women and children. Yes they should release the hostages but that won't stop the mass killings of civilians.


So we are still looking at less than 2 people killed per attack... We are now like 2 weeks into it and why are innocent civilians still around military targets, why not travel south like they should have been, what is keeping them there?



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