Tens of Thousands Attend pro-Palestinian Rally in Washington DC

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Oh, and this liar is going to teach me? Dont think so.

You don't agree with what he said about learning the whole truth?

a reply to: quintessentone

I don't call raping, torturing, murdering civilians, women, children and babies and taking hostages rising up and fighting for their lands and freedom.

But, each to their own, I suppose.

a reply to: quintessentone

I dont think anyone actually knows.

You readily believe Palestine, why don't we ask Israel for estimates?

Until the smoke clears and there are independent verification of Palestinian claims, wouldnt it be more prudent and honest to wait for more information?

Have you already forgotten the media irresponsiblity in reporting the Hospital attack with 500 dead?

Reminder: it turned out to be a Palestinian misfire, (even they admit), fewer than 20 dead. In a parking lot.

But the propaganda purveyors just roll on to the next group of wild claims and outright lies without even taking a breath.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I fully believe if Palestine was trying to improve themselves, let go of their hatred, start using aid for the purpose intended, they would be able to lift themselves out of their own misery.

If they were trying to be peaceful, and integrate with Israel, their lives would be so much better.

Wasnt Israel even allowing daily crossings from Gaza for workers? Some of them are suspected now of gathering intel that helped plan this attack.

I'm sick of hearing about poor Palestine.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Oh, and this liar is going to teach me? Dont think so.

You don't agree with what he said about learning the whole truth?

Can we stick to facts instead of truths?

Truths are just someone's opinion of the facts.

Fact, Israel and Jews have been reviled for centuries by Islamic entities.

Fact, the Gaza inhabitants do not recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Fact, On Oct 7th, Gaza inhabitants attacked, raped, butchered 1500 Israeli's.

Fact, Israel is now retaliating for that attack.

Those are all undisputed facts.

Actual facts.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

I dont think anyone actually knows.

You readily believe Palestine, why don't we ask Israel for estimates?

Until the smoke clears and there are independent verification of Palestinian claims, wouldnt it be more prudent and honest to wait for more information?

Have you already forgotten the media irresponsiblity in reporting the Hospital attack with 500 dead?

Reminder: it turned out to be a Palestinian misfire, (even they admit), fewer than 20 dead. In a parking lot.

But the propaganda purveyors just roll on to the next group of wild claims and outright lies without even taking a breath.

I could ask you the same thing because the propaganda is coming in from all angles.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Oh, and this liar is going to teach me? Dont think so.

You don't agree with what he said about learning the whole truth?

Can we stick to facts instead of truths?

Truths are just someone's opinion of the facts.

Fact, Israel and Jews have been reviled for centuries by Islamic entities.

Fact, the Gaza inhabitants do not recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Fact, On Oct 7th, Gaza inhabitants attacked, raped, butchered 1500 Israeli's.

Fact, Israel is now retaliating for that attack.

Those are all undisputed facts.

Actual facts.

Are you denying the Israeli occupation in Palestine?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

I don't call raping, torturing, murdering civilians, women, children and babies and taking hostages rising up and fighting for their lands and freedom.

But, each to their own, I suppose.

Why don't you tell us how the Palestinian people should go about regaining their occupied lands and realizing freedom from open air prisons?

a reply to: quintessentone

Why would I listen to a mulim working taquia (spelling?) against a non-Muslims? Truth doesnt mean anything to Obama... only advancing Muslim objectives.

You have much gall to ask any American to listen to this shyster about Israel and Palestine after he gave Iran billions in hard cash in the dead of night.

You expect me to be that damn gullible.

This is who needs to be in prison, or hung for treason.

I wont acknowledge.

And suspect highly that you are trolling. Do not try to coerce me, nor shame me about my refusal to listen to Obamas bullsh!t.

a reply to: quintessentone

A good start for Palestine to regain their respect and freedom and have the encouragement and support of the world, would be to turn over a new leaf and stop hating the Jews and making war on Israel.

I know for fact the good people of the US and the western world would help them lift themselves up.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Why would I listen to a mulim working taquia (spelling?) against a non-Muslims? Truth doesnt mean anything to Obama... only advancing Muslim objectives.

You have much gall to ask any American to listen to this shyster about Israel and Palestine after he gave Iran billions in hard cash in the dead of night.

You expect me to be that damn gullible.

This is who needs to be in prison, or hung for treason.

I wont acknowledge.

And suspect highly that you are trolling. Do not try to coerce me, nor shame me about my refusal to listen to Obamas bullsh!t.

Because the message is the truth, both sides have blood on their hands as I've been claiming and posting various different historical factual sources, not just this one.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

A good start for Palestine to regain their respect and freedom and have the encouragement and support of the world, would be to turn over a new leaf and stop hating the Jews and making war on Israel.

I know for fact the good people of the US and the western world would help them lift themselves up.

Why do you think this has to do with hating the Jews and not the Israeli government for the occupation and not honoring the agreements throughout their history?

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, you could. But where have I made any claims other than Israel was brutally attacked by militants from Palestine.

War crimes were committed by Palestine militants during that attack.

This is indisputable fact.

Palestine has made war on Israel. The war will be over when there is a clear victor. The last ceasefire held until Oct. 6. Palestine cannot plead for a ceasefire after attacking Israel.

It's over when Israel feels safe again.

War is ugly.

a reply to: quintessentone

"Why don't you tell us how the Palestinian people should go about regaining their occupied lands and realizing freedom from open air prisons?"

By fighting the IDF and not raping, murdering and torturing civilians?

And hiding themselves amongst human shields?

By giving up their stated aim of genocide of Jews?

By recognising the right of Israel to exist?

Those sort of things, for starters?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Oh, and this liar is going to teach me? Dont think so.

You don't agree with what he said about learning the whole truth?

Can we stick to facts instead of truths?

Truths are just someone's opinion of the facts.

Fact, Israel and Jews have been reviled for centuries by Islamic entities.

Fact, the Gaza inhabitants do not recognize Israel as a sovereign nation.

Fact, On Oct 7th, Gaza inhabitants attacked, raped, butchered 1500 Israeli's.

Fact, Israel is now retaliating for that attack.

Those are all undisputed facts.

Actual facts.

Are you denying the Israeli occupation in Palestine?

Yes.

Because "occupation" is a term to emote feelings, it's not a fact.

If you want facts, you have to look back 20, 30 40, even 50 years ago to see that this didn't happen in a vacuum, the inhabitants of Gaza have been attacking Israel since it's founding.

Occupation?

What do you do with an enemy that for generations has wanted you dead?

www.britannica.com...

Just view the link and put your question in the right perspective.

a reply to: quintessentone

Maybe it's the 2000+ year old question?

You come in here and lecture against religion all the time. So argue against Islam for a change!

YES, it's about hating the 'others'.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Maybe it's the 2000+ year old question?

You come in here and lecture against religion all the time. So argue against Islam for a change!

YES, it's about hating the 'others'.

I do discuss Islam, but not the one-sided Islamic tone deaf religion most here think it is. It's like Christianity with many branches and many misinterpretations and both have evil radical sides.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes, you could. But where have I made any claims other than Israel was brutally attacked by militants from Palestine.

War crimes were committed by Palestine militants during that attack.

This is indisputable fact.

Palestine has made war on Israel. The war will be over when there is a clear victor. The last ceasefire held until Oct. 6. Palestine cannot plead for a ceasefire after attacking Israel.

It's over when Israel feels safe again.

War is ugly.

Ignoring their collective bloody history is the problem here with quite a few posters.

When can Palestinians feel safe, free and have their lands back?

originally posted by: quintessentone
When can Palestinians feel safe, free and have their lands back?

When they stop attacking Israel and Jews; when they agree to the two state solution; when they stop chanting 'from the river to the sea' to their children teaching them to be terrorists. When can Israelis feel safe, free, and have their lands back?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: quintessentone

"Why don't you tell us how the Palestinian people should go about regaining their occupied lands and realizing freedom from open air prisons?"

By fighting the IDF and not raping, murdering and torturing civilians?

And hiding themselves amongst human shields?

By giving up their stated aim of genocide of Jews?

By recognising the right of Israel to exist?

Those sort of things, for starters?

The Palestinian people were in a barely surviving situation. Who in Palestine has the money and power? Not the people. Does Israel have the right to exist as occupiers in lands that are not theirs?