Holocaust Survivor Gabor Mate

a reply to: dust2023

That's the scenario everything seems to be pointing towards. We live in a messed up world.

originally posted by: 31331Dos
a reply to: dust2023

That's the scenario everything seems to be pointing towards. We live in a messed up world.

And I can tell you this, if so many of us weren't caught up in constant political thinking we might be able to be sane.

Politics is Hollywood for ugly people. I want to expand more on this in more detail, but tonight is not the time. I have my family over and we are having a good time. None of us are talking about politics at all and it is refreshing.

Gabor in this video is talking about the aggression by Israeli politicians but he failed to acknowledge that this has nothing to do with innocent Israeli civilians.

I agree to his point of view about the Israeli government / Politicians.

Hamas/Israeli Government (and Politicians) are two sides for the same coin. Neither Hamas nor Israeli government are protecting the civilians and always escalate the violence.

The only difference is the Zionist organization started the aggression against Palestinian civilians to build Israel.

I believe the solution is to get rid of Israeli politicians/government and get rid of Hamas, the world will be a better place.

There is no need to fight over Hamas vs Israel Politicians. Both are evil. The only fight is for civilian lives.

a reply to: 31331Dos

You're the one supporting the man who's been chosen ahead of time to lead us in the war.

It doesn't matter what party gets elected in 2024, Biden has set the stage and there'll be no turning back. Well, maybe Trump could turn the tide, but it's a surefire guarantee no career politician will do anything to stop war; it's their bread and butter.

I expect the US to be in a full-fledged war before November 2024 if it looks like the Democrats might stand a chance of losing power. BAMN.

a reply to: blindmellojello

When the disillusionment hits, make sure there's cold beer in the fridge and ask someone to hide your keys.

a reply to: Degradation33

You do you buddy.

Cheer your side right into the ground if it makes you feel better and run away from anything that might sit uncomfortable to the narrative that you have glued your hand to.

a reply to: nugget1

It doesn't matter what party gets elected in 2024, Biden has set the stage and there'll be no turning back.

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It doesn't matter what party gets elected in 2024, Biden has set the stage and there'll be no turning back.




Biden would've invented an Israel to keep the war machine going.



As for Trump :




He doesn't give a # about the Palestinians and through his actions as 47 will make things even worse than what it is now.

Escalation to a full blown war in the middle East with Russia and Iran getting involved is something you'd want if you absolutely hate Israel.

Why is that so difficult for people to comprehend?

a reply to: 19Bones79

Thanks. Always do.

Sorry about the childish response, but this (your thread) is straight propaganda to me. Might as well say,

"See, YOU GOTTA LISTEN TO A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR, he sees the true Israel you're all brainwashed not to, and because he's a Holocaust survivor you have to listen! Hate Israel too!"

That's how it's posting comes off. Especially the set-up. I'm sick of it, getting touchy on it. Pick a new freaking scapegoat, World.

a reply to: 19Bones79

Hard to believe you can project all that tripe on Trump while Joe Biden is pandering to Israel and Hamas at the same time, playing both sides while they kill each other. You are nothing but a criminal in that regard just like Joe.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: 19Bones79

Thanks. Always do.

Sorry about the childish response, but this (your thread) is straight propaganda to me. Might as well say,

"See, YOU GOTTA LISTEN TO A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR, he sees the true Israel you're all brainwashed not to, and because he's a Holocaust survivor you have to listen! Hate Israel too!"

That's how it's posting comes off. Especially the set-up. I'm sick of it, getting touchy on it. Pick a new freaking scapegoat, World.

Have you condemned attacks by Hamas o the 7th of October?

Have you condemned the air strikes by Israel?

It's really damning to the Israeli side when s holocaust survivor argues that what happens in Palestine is catastrophic and an exercise in ethnic cleansing or genocide.

a reply to: Degradation33

If your concern is truly limited to one people and one people only, you will lose all that you hold dear.

I urge you to think on that.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Simmer down ma'am.

I used to be a bigger Trump supporter than you but listen carefully to his words.

He's going to light up the middle East because 'muh Israel'.

Who will suffer because of it?

Everybody.

a reply to: Leviathan4

I reject merciless self defense as ethnic cleaning or genocide. It was deserved. If it ever gets defined as such I'll take the example of Turkey on the subject of 1915 and consider it insulting to call it that.

This is ideological cleansing. Israel decided they need to remove the extremist influence, and I couldn't care less if Palestinians lose their Gaza Strip sh*thole over it. Hamas gained power and never let anyone replace them, even as unemployment soared due to sanctions Israel placed on them for being in power. They just used it to fuel Israel hatred and support. And get real friendly with Iran.

They're sorta like nazis in that the people are so goosestepped into place that kids get ephigees of Jews to burn for their 3rd birthday. The hate was never caused by Israel. It was there from the start and endlessly confirmed by Israel.

Occupiers. Never anything less. Britain fulfilled their promise, and like almost every other country ever Israel took subsequent territory.

It's like the country has to exist on eggshells. Can't do things others do because their country was a present. That's the world mindset.

"We don't want you here. You should feel lucky Hitler didn't kill you all and got this as reparations. We will never acknowledge your sovereignty. They gave you what we considered muslim land."

Jeez, why not this total support for those in Sudan? Way more internally displaced and dead to all manner of civil and religious disputes, with instances of ACTUAL genocide. Still happening.

Freaking crickets. No one cares about Africa. Way more die. But this particular conflict gets everybody up in arms, not because all people are equal, the exact opposite actually.

a reply to: Degradation33

I reject merciless self defense as ethnic cleaning or genocide. It was deserved.

That means we can kill the whole world because there is a terrorist that exists on earth. We don't call it genocide because it was deserved.

If it ever gets defined as such I'll take the example of Turkey on the subject of 1915 and consider it insulting to call it that.

This is something they should not be proud of and the world should bring justice. Anyone that takes them as role model is a terrorist.

This is ideological cleansing. Israel decided they need to remove the extremist influence, and I could care less if Palestinians lose their Gaza Strip sh*thole. Hamas gained power and never let anyone replace them, even as unemployment soared due to sanctions Israel placed on them being in power. They just used it to fuel Israel hatred and support.

Hamas should be removed, but mass killing of children shouldn't be allowed.

They're sorta like nazis in that the people are so goosestepped into place that kids get ephigees of Jews to burn for their 3rd birthday. The hate was never caused by Israel. It was there from the start and endlessly confirmed.

This is not true, since Tantura massacre when Israelis killed unarmed villagers after arresting them and rape women, this has been an ongoing conflict between Israeli government / politicians and Palestinian resistance.

Jeez, why not this total support for those in Sudan. Actually way more internally displaced and dead to to similar religious disputes, and instances of ACTUAL genocide.

You're right, the world should do more, but the problem is that the world doesn't understand what is the problem in Sudan and how to solve it. We need more media coverage for these problems to understand and help.

a reply to: Degradation33

"I reject merciless self defense as ethnic cleaning or genocide. It was deserved."

Oh dear!

a reply to: Mawdano

The children! The children! The children... died of negligent homicide on the part of their Hamas supporting parents. Or parents that chose not to leave. The children were deliberately put into that position by design. It is impossible to get to Hamas without civilian casualty. Or hostage casualty.

Too far apart here.

I don't think we are doing a bake sale trade on this one at any time soon.

a reply to: Degradation33


You have raised an important point that needs some clarification. What do you mean by "negligent homicide on the part of their Hamas supporting parents" and "children were deliberately put into that position by design".

It is impossible to get to Hamas without civilian casualty.

It doesn't make sense to bomb 11,000 buildings and kill 3700 child to get Hamas. While Hamas is already living in underground tunnels.

originally posted by: Mawdano
a reply to: Degradation33


You have raised an important point that needs some clarification. What do you mean by "negligent homicide on the part of their Hamas supporting parents" and "children were deliberately put into that position by design".

It is impossible to get to Hamas without civilian casualty.

It doesn't make sense to bomb 11,000 buildings and kill 3700 child to get Hamas. While Hamas is already living in underground tunnels.

You just answered your own questions.

Hamas has what appears to be hundreds of miles of tunnels below the 11,000 buildings and 3700 children.

Israel finally said F it, we’ll suffer the hate from the terrorist sympathizers, and blow up Hamas wherever they are, instead of getting browbeaten into letting them get away with their savagery yet again.

We know you’d like to manipulate public opinion to give Hamas free sneak attacks with no response, whenever possible.

You just didn’t succeed this time. Your side went too animal. Jumped the shark, screwed the pooch, if you will.

You lose and you can’t stop bitching, repeating yourself dozens of times in frustration.

I’m enjoying your misery. Keep repeating yourself, talking in circles, and being the classic loser.

Every hour gets you another big kick in the ass. And it’s not Israeli evil, it’s Israel fighting the evil, which you are a sneaky little supporter and enabler of.

a reply to: blindmellojello

We know you’d like to manipulate public opinion to give Hamas free sneak attacks with no response, whenever possible. You just didn’t succeed this time. Your side went to animal. Jumped the shark, screwed the pooch, if you will. You lose and you can’t stop bitching, repeating yourself dozens of times in frustration. I’m enjoying your misery. Keep repeating yourself, talking in circles, and being the classic loser.

I've already said so many times that Hamas needs to erased from the face of earth, so I'm not sure where have you got what you're saying from.

Hamas has what appears to be hundreds of miles of tunnels below the 11,000 buildings and 3700 children.

Sure, but Gaza tunnels are everywhere, that means all the Palestinians will be killed.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: Mawdano

The children! The children! The children... died of negligent homicide on the part of their Hamas supporting parents. Or parents that chose not to leave. The children were deliberately put into that position by design. It is impossible to get to Hamas without civilian casualty. Or hostage casualty.

Too far apart here.

I don't think we are doing a bake sale trade on this one at any time soon.

Lol, every cheating SOB has the
“think of the chilluns !” card ready to throw, at all times.

These guys are totally unoriginal.