I took my 15 year old for a wellness checkup…

I have not read past page 2 but some pharmacies have a clinic and you do not need insurance or any med record. Cost ya a little money but no a hole making you get shots.
I've never had a problem with thise clinics..

a reply to: JJproductions

Why is this doctor wasting everyone's time by waiting until every patient makes an appointment to tell them this? Is the government paying him to keep a list of people who reject it?

You should write a review for this doctor on every publicly available website that allows you to and warn them. Plus, you should thoroughly vet the next doctor you choose for your family ahead of time to see who's kept up with their research and continuing education.

a reply to: chr0naut

The Covid vaccine is currently causing more harm than good. That's why only 3% of the American population has chosen to get the most current vaccine. I'm personally watching more people I know who have received the vaccine developing blood clots and cancer like never before and in such a short period of time.

a reply to: Deetermined2

My doctor would never do this to me. Yes I have found him a functional medial doctor he will see for his next checkup! Thank you for your post!

a reply to: Cre8chaos79

Thank you, I took him to urgent care for a sports checkup. No questions asked!

a reply to: JJproductions

Sadly, all my docs are there now, Dearborn. Been there, also ER work at Main on 13... And yes, I get a 20yr retirement from U of M Med Center Ann Arbor. 20 years.

These 2... Even tho we're/they're considered "learning institutions"..push...a lot of un-necessary "gotta haves".

Next up? I KNOW you know! It appears Henry Ford Health is up to trix too.

Stay well😎👍

originally posted by: JJproductions

Today I took my 15 year old for a wellness checkup and to have his sports physical. He has been going to the same doctor for 15 years. The doctor came in the room and said it looks like you need a flu shot, a Covid shot and a HPV vaccine.

I said we are not here for shots and my son has not and will never get the flu shot the Covid vaccine or this HPV. The doctor said it is now policy in my office that if you refuse ANY vaccines I have the right to never see your child again.

I told him we are here for a sports physical and a wellness exam. He said if you don’t agree to the vaccines I recommend, you can leave this office and go find another doctor.

My son said “so are you saying I do not have a right to deny the poison you will put in me and if I do you won’t see me again”. The doctor said yes, that is correct.

So we started walking out and the lady at the front asked how I would be paying the $50 for the deducible. I told her to take it up with the doctor because I know it’s not your fault but the doctor kicked us out! We walked out!

Has anyone had to deal with this before?

Good job. Walk out. They keep forgetting who really has the power.

originally posted by: HatesFreshAir
are you the type who denies all vaccines and has a shocked pikachu face when your kid dies from measles?

She only denied the flu, Covid and HPV. Don’t wrap this in an anti-vax argument.

a reply to: AlongCameaSpider

Thank you!

I could write a poem about your spider lol.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Wow 20 years from U of M med. That is great! Henry Ford did my open heart surgery on Valentine’s Day this year. Downtown. The surgeon was amazing. The aftercare was not fun.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: norhoc4
a reply to: chr0naut

You say it is “ utterly childish” to think there is a magic bullet. Well thank you for agreeing with what those of us that are anti-jab have been saying.

Those who are 'anti-jab' are condemning their actual efficacy because of the cases where they aren't 'magic bullet' cures, and they have nothing anywhere near as effective to offer as alternate protection.

They are like someone in a war zone who has a kevlar vest and helmet available as protection against gunfire and shrapnel, and who refuses to wear them because they don't always protect the wearer.

And those that reject "the magic bullet theory", and allopathic medicine that promotes it are like those that are smart enough, not to be dumb enough, to walk into a warzone

originally posted by: JJproductions
it looks like you need a flu shot, a Covid shot and a HPV vaccine.

Though I disagree with the doctor and it sounds almost made up if he has been seeing your kid for 15 years, I'll just take it at face value it happened, are you against all vaccines or just those 3?

a reply to: Xtrozero

He has some vaccines, the three are the ones he is not getting. For years we had the same Doctor. He never said a word about vaccines until this week.

He told us his policy is now to be vaccinated or to go find another doctor!

originally posted by: JJproductions

He has some vaccines, the three are the ones he is not getting. For years we had the same Doctor. He never said a word about vaccines until this week.

He told us his policy is now to be vaccinated or to go find another doctor!

I can understand COVID and the Flu as I see both mainly for high-risk people so your young son really gets no added protection from them while increasing some risk, but HPV is different. Maybe not as important for him as it is for women to get it, but it's a good vaccine for your son to get as it does add a good amount of protection.

I'm 63 and have had maybe 50+ vaccines (flying in the AF for like 25+ years to every cappy place on earth kind of led to so many) but I had a checkup and the doctor asked me about both flu and COVID and I said I'm good, and that was the end of the story. If the doctor is that way I think it is in your best interest to find another, not like your kid really needs one very much.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Wow that is amazing that you flew all over the world! We found a new doctor for next time.

en.wikipedia.org...(medicine).
The magic bullet theory is being misused as much in this thread as it has been in medicine with vaccines.
It has become a staple belief in medicine there is a treatment for every symptom thus requiring a specific pill or vaccine rather than a holistic approach based upon individual lifestyles and what you put into your bodies intentional and unintentional from environment, food and "medicine'.
The entire vaccine industry is based upon the magic bullet theory now and promoted.

Putting experimental gene therapy aside (mRNA), all vaccines had an attenuated virus that was supposed to stimulate an immune response.

But what about the adjuvant?
How can anyone tell the difference of the antibodies the body produces come from the attenuated virus and not the adjuvant?
There is no way to tell and allopathic medicine does not care to investigate.
They just want to train you through vaccination programs so you will have faith in your DR's.
There has never been a mass vaccination that has ever been proven effective program.
Never.
Not one.
And they never cured measles or polio.
They just change the names by regrouping the symptoms.
Like it's not polio.
It's meningitis.
Polio was a vaccine caused problem.
Meningitis is a vaccine induced problem.

Now that petro chemical by-product based chemical fertilizers are outlawed maybe the survivors of the coming food and medicine crisis will have restored health and wellness as we can return to our food being our best medicine

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
en.wikipedia.org...(medicine).
The magic bullet theory is being misused as much in this thread as it has been in medicine with vaccines.
It has become a staple belief in medicine there is a treatment for every symptom thus requiring a specific pill or vaccine rather than a holistic approach based upon individual lifestyles and what you put into your bodies intentional and unintentional from environment, food and "medicine'.
The entire vaccine industry is based upon the magic bullet theory now and promoted.

Putting experimental gene therapy aside (mRNA), all vaccines had an attenuated virus that was supposed to stimulate an immune response.

But what about the adjuvant?
How can anyone tell the difference of the antibodies the body produces come from the attenuated virus and not the adjuvant?
There is no way to tell and allopathic medicine does not care to investigate.
They just want to train you through vaccination programs so you will have faith in your DR's.
There has never been a mass vaccination that has ever been proven effective program.
Never.
Not one.
And they never cured measles or polio.
They just change the names by regrouping the symptoms.
Like it's not polio.
It's meningitis.
Polio was a vaccine caused problem.
Meningitis is a vaccine induced problem.

Now that petro chemical by-product based chemical fertilizers are outlawed maybe the survivors of the coming food and medicine crisis will have restored health and wellness as we can return to our food being our best medicine

Smallpox no longer exists and was ended by immunization campaigns. Smallpox also had some very specific symptoms and was caused by a pathogen with very definite genomic identifiers, and could not be 'written off' by redefining symptoms.

In fact, these days, we have advanced genomics that can identify a pathogen, so we know, even with similar symptoms, which disease we are having to deal with.

Polio, during a particularly bad outbreak in 1952, crippled 3.5% of the then US population. After several different immunizations were developed and deployed, that statistic dropped to nearly zero.

Polio case and death rates in the United States

But polio still does resurface periodically in the US, because there are pockets of it in existence in countries around the world where immunization coverage is not as comprehensive as it was in the US.

If they were merely reclassifying polio as meningitis, why are we not seeing many people paralyzed by meningitis rather than dying of it, and why are the total case numbers so comparably tiny compared to polio, and why don't we find the poliovirus pathogen in meningitis patients?

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: norhoc4
a reply to: chr0naut

You say it is “ utterly childish” to think there is a magic bullet. Well thank you for agreeing with what those of us that are anti-jab have been saying.

Those who are 'anti-jab' are condemning their actual efficacy because of the cases where they aren't 'magic bullet' cures, and they have nothing anywhere near as effective to offer as alternate protection.

They are like someone in a war zone who has a kevlar vest and helmet available as protection against gunfire and shrapnel, and who refuses to wear them because they don't always protect the wearer.

And those that reject "the magic bullet theory", and allopathic medicine that promotes it are like those that are smart enough, not to be dumb enough, to walk into a warzone

It has always been the case that the majority of people in war zones did not choose to walk there because a war broke out.

a reply to: JJproductions

if what you say can be proved, like you recorded him.

that doctor could lose his licence if you are in the US