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Jewish leading academic says Israel has lost 'world sympathy' through war actions

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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 10:53 AM
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As Donald Trump pointed out two weeks ago, Benjamin Netanyahu is not a good wartime leader.

He prefers the most bloody route, instead of taking out HAMAS officials who fund, organize, and plan the terrorist group's operations.

Breaks my heart to see what Netanyahu is doing to innocent little children... and also what he is bringing upon Israelis today and in the future, all over the world, by not getting rid of the highly visible, hate spewing, HAMAS leadership! 😥



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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originally posted by: WeMustCare
As Donald Trump pointed out two weeks ago, Benjamin Netanyahu is not a good wartime leader.

He prefers the most bloody route, instead of taking out HAMAS officials who fund, organize, and plan the terrorist group's operations.

Breaks my heart to see what Netanyahu is doing to innocent little children... and also what he is bringing upon Israelis today and in the future, all over the world, by not getting rid of the highly visible, hate spewing, HAMAS leadership! 😥


I'm just quoting what protesters are putting out there that 99% of those killed in Gaza are civilians, not HAMAS.
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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 10:58 AM
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My bible says Israel will win

And ALL of her enemies will be utterly broken on the mountains of Israel.




He Who blessed our forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob -- may He bless the fighters of the Israel Defense Forces, who stand guard over our land and the cities of our God, from the border of the Lebanon to the desert of Egypt, and from the Great Sea unto the approach of the Aravah, on the land, in the air, and on the sea.

May the Almighty cause the enemies who rise up against us to be struck down before them. May the Holy One, Blessed is He, preserve and rescue our fighters from every trouble and distress and from every plague and illness, and may He send blessing and success in their every endeavor.

May He lead our enemies under our soldiers’ sway and may He grant them salvation and crown them with victory. And may there be fulfilled for them the verse: For it is the Lord your God, Who goes with you to battle your enemies for you to save you.

Amen



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

Bottom line, Jews have been hated on for centuries.

Fact.

Palestinians killed, raped, tortured hundreds on Oct 7th.

Fact.

Israel is responding to the horrors the palestinians conducted.

Fact.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Leviathan4

He is an academic, no "jewish leading Academic" Jewish politics are one of his "experteses", he wrote an opinion piece that is all.

Anybody can write opinion pieces, just like hamas has been doing since Israel fought back and using these pieces as the only truth coming from Gaza.

Professor Yossi Mekelberg
Associate Fellow, Middle East and North Africa Programme





TextBiography
Yossi Mekelberg has been an associate fellow with the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House since 2002.

He was previously professor of international relations at Regent’s University, where he was head of the international relations and social sciences programme, and the faculty lead on outreach projects. He had taught at Regent’s University since 1996, and before that at King’s College, London.

his fields of expertise include the politics of the Middle East, Israeli politics, the Middle East peace process, international relations theory and US foreign policy towards the MENA region.

For four years he wrote a weekly column for the Al-Arabiya network before moving to write twice a week for Arab News. He is also a member of the Human Rights Watch London Committee.

In addition Yossi is a regular contributor to international media on a variety of international affairs issues.


I disagree with his opinion.



That's fine you can disagree with his opinion.
Millions of others around the world will agree with what he said. Common sense in a few words.



Common sense sees the blight Hamas is on the advancement of human rights. You think s women as talented as Taylor swift would be allowed to bring her talents to full fruition under Hamas?

Hamas is a real threat to personal freedoms in they will do anything, along with those middle easterner countries that sponsor their terror, to brutally enforce their view of a one world religion.

If millions of people don’t understand their is more than Israel at stake, their idiots.


The Israeli Academic speaks common sense just as many other Jews who see what's going on and they aren't blinded by ideology and dogma. Or even...the old testament!

The rest is just as excuses by those who want the war to continue, the confused, and the warmongers....



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
Utter bullsnip.

IF the world is turning against Israel, it is due to lies and evil propaganda, like you continue to spread.



You may want to listen to what this academic have said and he isn't the only one. Many Jews hold precisely the same views just as non Jews. Remember another thread (very recent) about another Jewish Academic who was cancelled in Israel for his criticisms against the Government and the way Palestinians are treated.

The world is turning against Israel from the moment they decide to attack and kill thousands of innocent civilians. This is a fact. And it's the key point in the analysis made by the speaker.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Cherry picking folk that agree with you, again?

What do you think the vast majority of Jews think?

Are they all confused warmongers?



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

I doubt Turkey have the stomach to attack Israel but if they do they are free to do so without backing from NATO , it would be their war although it would create a problem within NATO given the support the US and others give to Israel , it would be a chilling prospect.

It's looking like Netanyahu will not survive this conflict , disquiet at home and abroad indicates his time in charge is limited , his refusal to accept any responsibility for the attack by Hamas while others in government have and his somewhat unhinged references to the Bible and WW2 are not going down well , he posted a tweet that has since been removed blaming others within the military for the failures that led t the attack.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: quintessentone

I doubt Turkey have the stomach to attack Israel but if they do they are free to do so without backing from NATO , it would be their war although it would create a problem within NATO given the support the US and others give to Israel , it would be a chilling prospect.

It's looking like Netanyahu will not survive this conflict , disquiet at home and abroad indicates his time in charge is limited , his refusal to accept any responsibility for the attack by Hamas while others in government have and his somewhat unhinged references to the Bible and WW2 are not going down well , he posted a tweet that has since been removed blaming others within the military for the failures that led t the attack.


Is that how leaders of countries save themselves, by blaming others for the failures? Is this the new normal for leaders to not accept any responsibility or accountability?



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: Leviathan4

Why? There are academics on both sides of this argument.

Why? There are self-hating Jews, same as self-hating whites. It's mental illness brought on by propaganda and a need to save themselves by identifying with the enemy, and virtue signal. There are ALWAYS those playing blatant devils advocate for ego points.

Who someone is doens't mean spit to me. What they are saying does.

Appeal to authority is fallacy. Authority is often wrong.


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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: gortex

Bibi has come and gone out of favor for years.

Why does the left always think the right will just give up and walk away?

The defeat of the lefts targets of hate is always just around the corner and permanent, this time.

It would be amusing if it wasn't so galling.

Bibi support is why Trump is so damn popular in Israel.


If Bibi is retired over this, it will be because he didn't return hellfire on those that want to exterminate the Jews.


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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Leviathan4

He is an academic, no "jewish leading Academic" Jewish politics are one of his "experteses", he wrote an opinion piece that is all.

Anybody can write opinion pieces, just like hamas has been doing since Israel fought back and using these pieces as the only truth coming from Gaza.

Professor Yossi Mekelberg
Associate Fellow, Middle East and North Africa Programme





TextBiography
Yossi Mekelberg has been an associate fellow with the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House since 2002.

He was previously professor of international relations at Regent’s University, where he was head of the international relations and social sciences programme, and the faculty lead on outreach projects. He had taught at Regent’s University since 1996, and before that at King’s College, London.

his fields of expertise include the politics of the Middle East, Israeli politics, the Middle East peace process, international relations theory and US foreign policy towards the MENA region.

For four years he wrote a weekly column for the Al-Arabiya network before moving to write twice a week for Arab News. He is also a member of the Human Rights Watch London Committee.

In addition Yossi is a regular contributor to international media on a variety of international affairs issues.


I disagree with his opinion.



That's fine you can disagree with his opinion.
Millions of others around the world will agree with what he said. Common sense in a few words.



Common sense sees the blight Hamas is on the advancement of human rights. You think s women as talented as Taylor swift would be allowed to bring her talents to full fruition under Hamas?

Hamas is a real threat to personal freedoms in they will do anything, along with those middle easterner countries that sponsor their terror, to brutally enforce their view of a one world religion.

If millions of people don’t understand their is more than Israel at stake, their idiots.


The Israeli Academic speaks common sense just as many other Jews who see what's going on and they aren't blinded by ideology and dogma. Or even...the old testament!

The rest is just as excuses by those who want the war to continue, the confused, and the warmongers....


I don’t know many Academics I would want to be in a fox hole with while Hamas terror rockets rain down.

Funny, if they feel so strongly they should just walk to Gaza to surrender to Hamas.
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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAY1980

Bottom line, Jews have been hated on for centuries.

Fact.

Palestinians killed, raped, tortured hundreds on Oct 7th.

Fact.

Israel is responding to the horrors the palestinians conducted.

Fact.


I don’t speak Arabic but…


t.me...


The head of the Palestinian Authority 'The Hamas leaders – and I say this for the first time – fled Gaza to the Sinai in ambulances, leaving their people behind.'


Also says they hide under Mosques.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: NorthOS

Cowards.

Filth.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 07:05 PM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: Leviathan4

Why? There are academics on both sides of this argument.

Why? There are self-hating Jews, same as self-hating whites. It's mental illness brought on by propaganda and a need to save themselves by identifying with the enemy, and virtue signal. There are ALWAYS those playing blatant devils advocate for ego points.

Who someone is doens't mean spit to me. What they are saying does.

Appeal to authority is fallacy. Authority is often wrong.



Aaah I see... A himself hating Jew! What an argument! Convincing and well structured and articulated.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Leviathan4

He is an academic, no "jewish leading Academic" Jewish politics are one of his "experteses", he wrote an opinion piece that is all.

Anybody can write opinion pieces, just like hamas has been doing since Israel fought back and using these pieces as the only truth coming from Gaza.

Professor Yossi Mekelberg
Associate Fellow, Middle East and North Africa Programme





TextBiography
Yossi Mekelberg has been an associate fellow with the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Chatham House since 2002.

He was previously professor of international relations at Regent’s University, where he was head of the international relations and social sciences programme, and the faculty lead on outreach projects. He had taught at Regent’s University since 1996, and before that at King’s College, London.

his fields of expertise include the politics of the Middle East, Israeli politics, the Middle East peace process, international relations theory and US foreign policy towards the MENA region.

For four years he wrote a weekly column for the Al-Arabiya network before moving to write twice a week for Arab News. He is also a member of the Human Rights Watch London Committee.

In addition Yossi is a regular contributor to international media on a variety of international affairs issues.


I disagree with his opinion.



That's fine you can disagree with his opinion.
Millions of others around the world will agree with what he said. Common sense in a few words.



Common sense sees the blight Hamas is on the advancement of human rights. You think s women as talented as Taylor swift would be allowed to bring her talents to full fruition under Hamas?

Hamas is a real threat to personal freedoms in they will do anything, along with those middle easterner countries that sponsor their terror, to brutally enforce their view of a one world religion.

If millions of people don’t understand their is more than Israel at stake, their idiots.


The Israeli Academic speaks common sense just as many other Jews who see what's going on and they aren't blinded by ideology and dogma. Or even...the old testament!

The rest is just as excuses by those who want the war to continue, the confused, and the warmongers....


I don’t know many Academics I would want to be in a fox hole with while Hamas terror rockets rain down.

Funny, if they feel so strongly they should just walk to Gaza to surrender to Hamas.


They speak common sense just as many other Jews. The rest of your plea is just irrelevant.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Guess so, as it's being told that Hamas principles have fled Gaza in ambulances that should be used for the wounded civilians.

So yes, seems they want to avoid responsibility for the horrific attack.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: quintessentone

Guess so, as it's being told that Hamas principles have fled Gaza in ambulances that should be used for the wounded civilians.

So yes, seems they want to avoid responsibility for the horrific attack.



It's propaganda without credible sources, got any?



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 07:54 PM
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There is a hierarchy of victimization in this world and the Israeli government simply does not rank high enough to justify the actions they are engaged in.

Hamas on the other hand do rank high enough to justify the actions they have engaged in.

It is as simple as that.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Cherry picking folk that agree with you, again?

What do you think the vast majority of Jews think?

Are they all confused warmongers?


You have any statistics you can share with us or it this another of your assertions and calls for war and disaster.




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