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Retired U.S. Army colonel Douglas Macgregor: "Israeli self-destruction in Gaza"

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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 05:00 AM
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a reply to: Mawdano

I don't think many people viewed Netanyahu's re-election positively.

The man is a disaster.

To be honest with you I know little about Israeli domestic politics, certainly not enough to hold an informed discussion or debate, but I do know its incredibly insular.
I understand that and it must be incredibly difficult trying to just get along with everyday things knowing you are surrounded by enemies.

But I feel they need to take that step out onto the world stage and sometimes take a more broader outlook and perspective.

I get the impression some Arab/Muslim nations have become resigned and even accepting that Israel is here to stay.
But it also serves a purpose for the Muslim world in general that the Palestinian problem remains a very deep thorn in Israel's side and they use it as some sort of cause celebre.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Mawdano
a reply to: Xtrozero

Yes, Biden and other officials from coalition have given details of creating Islamic terrorism plan. Sure there are people who act on their own but official funding and help makes it global problem.

Citation please.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: FullHeathen
a reply to: Xtrozero



Treaty of Lausanne

Reading up on that now.
Wow.
No Kurdistan
No prosecution for Armenian genocide
Deportations and population exchanges between Greece and Turkey

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Makes me wonder: Should countries make treaties outside of U.N. auspices?

UNRWA pretty much leaves Palestinian refugees as permanent refugees. If Arab states and Israel could make a treaty about relocating Palestinians and granting citizenship in Arab countries, would the U.N. go along or fight it?

Kind of late. Should have been done decades ago.

Here we are: woulda, coulda, shoulda.


The main reason why there isn't a Kurdistan is because all the people in those 5+ countries were nomads and they could not find a leader to put into power to start Kurdistan. The whole northern part of Iraq should have been Kurdistan. The interesting part that no one is looking at is what will Turkey do now that the 100-year treaty is over and the gloves are off.


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posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
I get the impression some Arab/Muslim nations have become resigned and even accepting that Israel is here to stay.
But it also serves a purpose for the Muslim world in general that the Palestinian problem remains a very deep thorn in Israel's side and they use it as some sort of cause celebre.



So when are these ultra-rich and large Muslim countries going to step up and solve the problem? Even if Israel cuts out a chunk of land for them it will do nothing and the problems will remain. Look what happens when they pass leadership over to them.



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 05:08 PM
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It is a myth. But myths when believed in do tend to have real world consequences.

According to recent surveys, just under half of Turkish people, and around 43% of graduates, believe that the 1923 treaty will expire this year and that its alleged “secret articles” will finally be unveiled.

For believers in this counterfactual version of events, the “expiration” of the treaty will unshackle Turkey from western control. After being barred by Lausanne’s “secret articles” for a century, the country will finally be able to tap its rich oil and boron resources. Released from this “straightjacket”, Turkey will become a superpower again, as it was during the heyday of the Ottoman empire, they believe.
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As historian Gökhan Çetinsaya notes, one can trace Lausanne conspiracy theories back to the antisemitic and nationalist Islamist writings of figures such as Cevat Rıfat Atilhan, a renowned pro-Nazi author and politician, and Necip Fazıl Kısakürek, poet and inspiration of Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
wh y do so many turkish people believe secret clauses in the 1923 lausanne treaty will be-unveiled this-year



posted on Nov, 4 2023 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

As the war on Syria expanded, a US-led alliance was formed to train Syrian fighters, and two command centers were established, “MOC” (Military Operations Command) in Jordan, and “MOM” (Müşterek Operasyon Merkezi) in Turkiye.

www.washingtonpost.com...
new.thecradle.co...

I have more references if these are not sufficient.



posted on Nov, 5 2023 @ 02:23 AM
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originally posted by: Mawdano
a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

As the war on Syria expanded, a US-led alliance was formed to train Syrian fighters, and two command centers were established, “MOC” (Military Operations Command) in Jordan, and “MOM” (Müşterek Operasyon Merkezi) in Turkiye.

www.washingtonpost.com...
new.thecradle.co...

I have more references if these are not sufficient.


Washington Post I don’t and will not have a subscription.
The other link you provided does not mention Biden even once that I could see, only a bunch of stuff about Qatar and Syria. I guess that was the “other officials”.
But by the name of the link in the Washington Post, I’m not surprised that JB would let it slip out, kinda like how Bush Sr let it slip that the deep staters were certainly going to have their World Order and would be successful. There’s likely still YouTube of that and oh BO also let some of that slip as well.
But thanks for your effort.
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posted on Nov, 5 2023 @ 02:36 AM
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Qatar’s ex-Prime Minister Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani acknowledged the US and its Gulf allies backed Salafi-jihadists in Syria.

Qatar’s former prime minister admitted in an interview that the United States and its Gulf allies supported Islamist extremists in Syria.
In CIA-run training sites located in Jordan and Turkey, Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani explained, the U.S., Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, “all of us, we [were] supporting the same groups,” he said. Among them were extremists, al-Thani noted.
This testimony adds to the growing body of evidence that the U.S. government and its proxies backed hard-line Salafi-jihadists in order to weaken the Syrian government and its allies Iran and Hezbollah.

thegrayzone.com...



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