Israeli Politician calls for Gaza to be erased from the face of the Earth

a reply to: blindmellojello

I've been told not to fire back. I'd rather do so, as I'm perfectly able. But I'm doing my part to help us all stay on track and have a nice place for intelligent discussion.

Got a problem with that?

a reply to: Insurrectile

You can press any point you like, just cant put me at the end of your sword.

I wont have it. I will return parley within the bounds of the ToS.

You do you.

a reply to: Coelacanth55

We damn well better NOT wait 24 hours for them to stop.

FIrst incoming should be returned 10 fold. Or we better get someone else running the military.

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You're mistaken.
I am not an Arab or a Jew and already condemned all war crimes committed by both sides.

In contrast you are yet to condemn the war crimes committed by Israel or even the genocidal rhetoric of this politician.

Nvm

Wise- instead say NVM.

You do know that the vast majority of people who are not Arabs or Jews do want to see an end to this conflict and the loss of human life.

Including the end to this rhetoric by both sides.

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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

It's a war. People die in wars. Sadly.

We apparently have a whole redefined existence, lots of totally redefined facts, words, and social norms that help young people “win debates” on the internet. They just announce the changes on their way to “the win”.

a reply to: blindmellojello

I responded to the comment that I played the victim card. Up until then, I dont think we addressed one another.

I thought too we usually agree, so was kinda surprised.

Yep. Im trying my best not to get actioned.

We live in trying times.

a reply to: Leviathan4

"You do know that the vast majority of people who are not Arabs or Jews do want to see an end to this conflict and the loss of human life."

Yes. Of course.

Thing is, and it's a very, very big thing, Hamas does not and actually wants the exact opposite.

This is the crux of the problem.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

War crimes? Has there been an independent investigation by independent experts, on the ground?

Has there been a conviction in any international Court of Law?

What has happened to your presumption of innocence?

Do you now understand what "forced" means?

No there doesn't need to be an investigation at this point as this isn't a rocket or missile that was fired from some unknown source. You're confusing matters.

Israel has admitted what they have done. There should be an investigation later on but the killings must stop.

Israel has ordered millions of people to move south otherwise they will bombed and killed or injured if they don't. That's forced expulsion which is a war crime.

Israel has cut off electricity and water supply which amounts to collective punishment. This is also a war crime.

These are facts and not speculations.

I haven't seen you condemning the actions of Israel at all.

Or even condemning the politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric as the one described in this thread.

a reply to: NorthOS

Thats what hams terrorist propaganda is doing all over the internet where they have free, reign to post their crap.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Im unaware that warning civilians that you are about to come root out terrorists from tunnels is a war crime! I thought it was a GOOD thing to tell civilians to flee and give them a chance.

Forced Expulsion is more like going in, telling them grab what you can and march that way or we shoot you,. That is forced expulsion.

originally posted by: blindmellojello

originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.middleeasteye.net...

Galit Distel Atbaryan, who was recently public diplomacy minister, says on Facebook a 'vengeful and vicious' Israeli army is needed to wipe out the Palestinian enclave.

An MP from Israel's ruling Likud party and a recent minister on Wednesday called for all of Gaza to be erased from the earth, saying the coastal enclave should be “wiped out”.

“Invest that energy in one thing,” she wrote. “Erasing all of Gaza from the face of the earth.”

Distel Atbaryan said she wished to see “the brave monsters” flee over Gaza’s southern barrier into Egypt, “or let them die

Distel Atbaryan is the latest of Israeli Officials and Politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric and who do actually believe what they're saying. I don't think there is any doubt about it. Plenty of Israeli officials have expressed their views recently and called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza which also implies the killings of all its citizens.

What we call incitement to genocide without any doubt. It's really worrying that Government Officials arguing for the complete destruction of Gaza, for genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Prime Minister Netanyahou very recently appealed to the Old Testament to argue for war and destruction of the enemies of Israel.



Author and former Irish Times environmental editor Frank McDonald said the following for the latest comments by Atbaryan

twitter.com...

Genocidal intent, clearly expressed: Galit Distel Atbaryan, Israeli minister for "public diplomacy" (ie propaganda) and member of @netanyahu's Likud party, has explicitly called for the @IDF to be “vengeful and cruel” and to “erase Gaza from the face of the earth” ...

How many “genociders” do you have identified among the Jooooos ?

I’m guessing 5 or 6, who will never be involved in any such thing.

On the Arab - Muslim - Persian side, there are actually 1000’s who run around screaming these things about genociding Israel, and actually doing them on a regular basis.

Such terrible logic that you bring.

Quite a lot I will say.
As well as denialists of reality when the IDF and certain politicians argued there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Here is some similar rhetoric to the one discussed in this thread (the story of this thread included in the list)

The President of Israel said the entire nation of Palestine is responsible for what is happening. There are no innocent Palestinians.

Netanyahou appealed to the old testament to argue for the defeat and destruction of the enemy and bringing Armageddon.

Another politician a few days ago Meirav Ben-Ari argued that the children of Gaza have brought it upon themselves.... It's their fault in a few words.

Galit Distel Atbaryan said that Gaza has to be erased from the face of the earth.

Politician Moishe Feiglin called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza. He called for Gaza to be turned into Dresden!

Israeli Ambassador to Italy Dror Eydar argues for total annihilation of Gaza: "For us, there is a purpose: to destroy Gaza, to destroy the absolute evil,"

a reply to: Leviathan4

"Israel has ordered millions of people to move south otherwise they will bombed and killed or injured if they don't. That's forced expulsion which is a war crime."

That's not quite what the IDF said to them.

They had a choice. They were not forced. Very many chose to stay. Some left and chose to return.

How were they "forced" then?

"Or even condemning the politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric as the one described in this thread".

But, I have. See above.

Perhaps you missed my earlier post?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: blindmellojello

originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.middleeasteye.net...

Galit Distel Atbaryan, who was recently public diplomacy minister, says on Facebook a 'vengeful and vicious' Israeli army is needed to wipe out the Palestinian enclave.

An MP from Israel's ruling Likud party and a recent minister on Wednesday called for all of Gaza to be erased from the earth, saying the coastal enclave should be “wiped out”.

“Invest that energy in one thing,” she wrote. “Erasing all of Gaza from the face of the earth.”

Distel Atbaryan said she wished to see “the brave monsters” flee over Gaza’s southern barrier into Egypt, “or let them die

Distel Atbaryan is the latest of Israeli Officials and Politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric and who do actually believe what they're saying. I don't think there is any doubt about it. Plenty of Israeli officials have expressed their views recently and called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza which also implies the killings of all its citizens.

What we call incitement to genocide without any doubt. It's really worrying that Government Officials arguing for the complete destruction of Gaza, for genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Prime Minister Netanyahou very recently appealed to the Old Testament to argue for war and destruction of the enemies of Israel.



Author and former Irish Times environmental editor Frank McDonald said the following for the latest comments by Atbaryan

twitter.com...

Genocidal intent, clearly expressed: Galit Distel Atbaryan, Israeli minister for "public diplomacy" (ie propaganda) and member of @netanyahu's Likud party, has explicitly called for the @IDF to be “vengeful and cruel” and to “erase Gaza from the face of the earth” ...

How many “genociders” do you have identified among the Jooooos ?

I’m guessing 5 or 6, who will never be involved in any such thing.

On the Arab - Muslim - Persian side, there are actually 1000’s who run around screaming these things about genociding Israel, and actually doing them on a regular basis.

Such terrible logic that you bring.

Quite a lot I will say.
As well as denialists of reality when the IDF and certain politicians argued there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Here is some similar rhetoric to the one discussed in this thread (the story of this thread included in the list)

The President of Israel said the entire nation of Palestine is responsible for what is happening. There are no innocent Palestinians.

Netanyahou appealed to the old testament to argue for the defeat and destruction of the enemy and bringing Armageddon.

Another politician a few days ago Meirav Ben-Ari argued that the children of Gaza have brought it upon themselves.... It's their fault in a few words.

Galit Distel Atbaryan said that Gaza has to be erased from the face of the earth.

Politician Moishe Feiglin called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza. He called for Gaza to be turned into Dresden!

Israeli Ambassador to Italy Dror Eydar argues for total annihilation of Gaza: "For us, there is a purpose: to destroy Gaza, to destroy the absolute evil,"

You’ve named about 5, and I don’t doubt there’s some more somewhere.

Just a little problem with scope or magnitude.

Many countries all around Israel have pledged themselves to the destruction of Israel, for 75 years.

For you to moan and groan about a handful of dummies saying mean things about Gaza today, is just ludicrous. And you just keep doing it with zero introspection.

originally posted by: MoreCoyoteAngels
a reply to: blindmellojello

I responded to the comment that I played the victim card. Up until then, I dont think we addressed one another.

I thought too we usually agree, so was kinda surprised.

Yep. Im trying my best not to get actioned.

We live in trying times.

Sorry, I was thinking the other person said that. My mistake. I was quick to jump because they just go from one old saw, or dishonest tactic, to another.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"Israel has ordered millions of people to move south otherwise they will bombed and killed or injured if they don't. That's forced expulsion which is a war crime."

That's not quite what the IDF said to them.

They had a choice. They were not forced. Very many chose to stay. Some left and chose to return.

How were they "forced" then?

"Or even condemning the politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric as the one described in this thread".

But, I have. See above.

Perhaps you missed my earlier post?

No they didn't have a choice, they were forced to move otherwise they could die. That doesn't make the actions by Israel lawful. And many of them were even unable to move as it was equally risky to move when the bombing was happening and when much of the roads and infrastructure has been destroyed.

Forced expulsion is a war crime
Cutting off water and electricity is another war crime

Incitement to genocide is also a war crime just like the one in this thread by the Israeli Politician.

originally posted by: blindmellojello

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: blindmellojello

originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.middleeasteye.net...

Galit Distel Atbaryan, who was recently public diplomacy minister, says on Facebook a 'vengeful and vicious' Israeli army is needed to wipe out the Palestinian enclave.

An MP from Israel's ruling Likud party and a recent minister on Wednesday called for all of Gaza to be erased from the earth, saying the coastal enclave should be “wiped out”.

“Invest that energy in one thing,” she wrote. “Erasing all of Gaza from the face of the earth.”

Distel Atbaryan said she wished to see “the brave monsters” flee over Gaza’s southern barrier into Egypt, “or let them die

Distel Atbaryan is the latest of Israeli Officials and Politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric and who do actually believe what they're saying. I don't think there is any doubt about it. Plenty of Israeli officials have expressed their views recently and called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza which also implies the killings of all its citizens.

What we call incitement to genocide without any doubt. It's really worrying that Government Officials arguing for the complete destruction of Gaza, for genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Prime Minister Netanyahou very recently appealed to the Old Testament to argue for war and destruction of the enemies of Israel.



Author and former Irish Times environmental editor Frank McDonald said the following for the latest comments by Atbaryan

twitter.com...

Genocidal intent, clearly expressed: Galit Distel Atbaryan, Israeli minister for "public diplomacy" (ie propaganda) and member of @netanyahu's Likud party, has explicitly called for the @IDF to be “vengeful and cruel” and to “erase Gaza from the face of the earth” ...

How many “genociders” do you have identified among the Jooooos ?

I’m guessing 5 or 6, who will never be involved in any such thing.

On the Arab - Muslim - Persian side, there are actually 1000’s who run around screaming these things about genociding Israel, and actually doing them on a regular basis.

Such terrible logic that you bring.

Quite a lot I will say.
As well as denialists of reality when the IDF and certain politicians argued there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Here is some similar rhetoric to the one discussed in this thread (the story of this thread included in the list)

The President of Israel said the entire nation of Palestine is responsible for what is happening. There are no innocent Palestinians.

Netanyahou appealed to the old testament to argue for the defeat and destruction of the enemy and bringing Armageddon.

Another politician a few days ago Meirav Ben-Ari argued that the children of Gaza have brought it upon themselves.... It's their fault in a few words.

Galit Distel Atbaryan said that Gaza has to be erased from the face of the earth.

Politician Moishe Feiglin called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza. He called for Gaza to be turned into Dresden!

Israeli Ambassador to Italy Dror Eydar argues for total annihilation of Gaza: "For us, there is a purpose: to destroy Gaza, to destroy the absolute evil,"

You’ve named about 5, and I don’t doubt there’s some more somewhere.

Just a little problem with scope or magnitude.

Many countries all around Israel have pledged themselves to the destruction of Israel, for 75 years.

For you to moan and groan about a handful of dummies saying mean things about Gaza today, is just ludicrous. And you just keep doing it with zero introspection.

You call the Prime Minister Netanyahou and his Government a handful of dummies? He is the most senior figure who just as the Politician in this thread has called for total destruction of the enemies of Israel after appealing to the old testament.

In the meantime over 8,000 Palestinian civilians have died.

a reply to: Leviathan4

There have been negotiations between Israel and the Arab world and 2 state solutions for decades.

Multiple US presidents have been saddened to see Palestine reject good solutions, because their masters in the Arab world want to keep them as victim political pawns.

Address that and we will get somewhere other than big old bad old Israel.

But if you have this discussion with most Pallies, representative by those in the US, they don't want ANY Israel. The want Israel gone from ALL previous territories. NO state for Israel.

So, what do we do with Israel? Where should they go?

a reply to: Leviathan4

Of course they had a choice. Many exercised that choice. QED.

"Much of the roads" destroyed?

Do you have any evidence for that?

How then did all those you say were displaced manage to leave, then?