Israeli Politician calls for Gaza to be erased from the face of the Earth

a reply to: underpass61

An interesting angle - no idea if it is true but would explain a lot

It is a part of the puzzle. Israel is in a very strategic location to control the roads between Africa, Middle East, Europe and Russia. By controlling this region it will help Israel influence the trade going on between continents. It also has full control of the trade going into Gaza for a while. If you want to take over the world and help keep your enemies strategically divided, Israel is a good starting point

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider
It’s a good start.

Eliminate the threat. Remove its existence.

If not, this cycle will keep repeating and we will be having these discussions again.

I wonder if the Americans would be so quick to support Hamas if civilians were attacked in the US by Hamas?

10 fold retaliation is what is required.

Lol, next stop Lebanon

a reply to: DBCowboy

From the river to the sea Israel will be free.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Of course not.

My Grandpa would've taken real good care about your feelings, too! A bit too good, maybe. But the nights on sea are long, dark and salty...

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: Leviathan4

Can Hamas wipe out Israel, with the help of Iran, Jordan, Syria, etc.?

See what I said above

But if we think about it more rationally, can Hamas really annihilate Israel? The answer is obviously not. Hamas has very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes, no navy. Nothing. Once the fence is secured Hamas can do nothing. Just as it was all these years. They can only launch rockets but with very limited success.

So once the fence is secured, which is the main reason why Hamas was able to do what they did on the 7th of October, then there is nothing else they can do. And Israel won't have an excuse of killing thousands of innocent civilians.

And the answer to your question is no unless there is a general conflict with Iran, Syria, and other countries attacking Israel but still they won't be able to wipe out Israel. The US, UK, France, and Western Countries will provide support and engage too in case it happens. But then we are talking about WW3

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: DBCowboy

Of course not.

My Grandpa would've taken real good care about your feelings, too! A bit too good, maybe. But the nights on sea are long, dark and salty...

I have no idea what you are saying.

#DayDrinking

a reply to: DBCowboy

Maybe you shouldn't, but that's why he packed a good rum as well.

Cheers?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Leviathan4

Top Hamas Official: We’re Ready To Repeat October 7 Attack ‘Again And Again’ Until Israel Annihilated

It has been posted elsewhere too.
So we are left with two sides that want to annihilate each other considering what Hamas is saying and what the response by the Israeli Prime Minister is and many of the Israeli Politicians.

But if we think about it more rationally, can Hamas really annihilate Israel? The answer is obviously not. Hamas has very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes, no navy. Nothing. Once the fence is secured Hamas can do nothing. Just as it was all these years. They can only launch rockets but with very limited success.

So once the fence is secured, which is the main reason why Hamas was able to do what they did on the 7th of October, then there is nothing else they can do. And Israel won't have an excuse of killing thousands of innocent civilians.

Nah, Hamas will just continue to gang rape young ladies and girls, parade their bloodied backsides for all to see, and celebrate it with joy.

Or kill babies in gruesome disgusting ways and celebrate that with lustful glee.

Some things can’t go unavenged.

Israel is trying to obliterate Hamas for it, not the Palestinian. Too bad Hamas is hiding among the Palestinians, making them die instead of Hamas whenever possible.

a reply to: Leviathan4

So you support containing Hamas and the Palestinian people behind a secure fence?
I thought you likened existing in Gaza as being like in a concentration camp. Wouldn't building a secure wall strengthen that feeling?

And its containment, its not addressing root causes.....the main one's of which are Hamas's intention of removing all Jews from Palestine, securing an Islamic/Arab state there and refusing to consider even the notion of peaceful coexistence.

a reply to: Leviathan4

They can only launch rockets but with very limited success.

So it's okay if Hamas only destroys a little bit of Israel's infrastructure and just kills a few of Israel's citizens. Acceptable losses to keep the peace? Are you reading what you are writing?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: Leviathan4

Can Hamas wipe out Israel, with the help of Iran, Jordan, Syria, etc.?

See what I said above

But if we think about it more rationally, can Hamas really annihilate Israel? The answer is obviously not. Hamas has very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes, no navy. Nothing. Once the fence is secured Hamas can do nothing. Just as it was all these years. They can only launch rockets but with very limited success.

So once the fence is secured, which is the main reason why Hamas was able to do what they did on the 7th of October, then there is nothing else they can do. And Israel won't have an excuse of killing thousands of innocent civilians.

And the answer to your question is no unless there is a general conflict with Iran, Syria, and other countries attacking Israel but still they won't be able to wipe out Israel. The US, UK, France, and Western Countries will provide support and engage too in case it happens. But then we are talking about WW3

Does that mean that you support a wall and secure border for the U.S., too?

If we're attacked in the U.S. (we will be), will you blame our open border?

a reply to: Leviathan4

So once the fence is secured

The fence with Gaza has been secured for a long time. As for why it took a day off on the 7th, some glitch?

a reply to: Freeborn

Yeah. I don't think the Hamas charter should have any bearing on our policy decisions. Unless you want to act on their behalf, and look even more ridiculous in doing so, of course.

Must be really hard to come up with a more democratic, freedom upholding concept than collective punishment these days. Albigensian Crusade it is then, it's settled! Literally.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
www.middleeasteye.net...

Galit Distel Atbaryan, who was recently public diplomacy minister, says on Facebook a 'vengeful and vicious' Israeli army is needed to wipe out the Palestinian enclave.

An MP from Israel's ruling Likud party and a recent minister on Wednesday called for all of Gaza to be erased from the earth, saying the coastal enclave should be “wiped out”.

“Invest that energy in one thing,” she wrote. “Erasing all of Gaza from the face of the earth.”

Distel Atbaryan said she wished to see “the brave monsters” flee over Gaza’s southern barrier into Egypt, “or let them die

Distel Atbaryan is the latest of Israeli Officials and Politicians who engage in this kind of rhetoric and who do actually believe what they're saying. I don't think there is any doubt about it. Plenty of Israeli officials have expressed their views recently and called for the total destruction and annihilation of Gaza which also implies the killings of all its citizens.

What we call incitement to genocide without any doubt. It's really worrying that Government Officials arguing for the complete destruction of Gaza, for genocide and ethnic cleansing. The Prime Minister Netanyahou very recently appealed to the Old Testament to argue for war and destruction of the enemies of Israel.



Author and former Irish Times environmental editor Frank McDonald said the following for the latest comments by Atbaryan

twitter.com...

Genocidal intent, clearly expressed: Galit Distel Atbaryan, Israeli minister for "public diplomacy" (ie propaganda) and member of @netanyahu's Likud party, has explicitly called for the @IDF to be “vengeful and cruel” and to “erase Gaza from the face of the earth” ...

How many “genociders” do you have identified among the Jooooos ?

I’m guessing 5 or 6, who will never be involved in any such thing.

On the Arab - Muslim - Persian side, there are actually 1000’s who run around screaming these things about genociding Israel, and actually doing them on a regular basis.

Such terrible logic that you bring.

a reply to: Leviathan4

It becomes more obvious everyday that Benjamin Netanyahu has a personal issue of some kind.

He could be compromised...

He could be afraid of taking out HAMAS leaders..

He could just enjoy playing War.

😬

a reply to: SourGrapes

Without the US stepping in, yes they could make a mess.

Israel has nukes. They arent going down easy in a scenario such as that.

It will come to the apoppyclipse if we aren't very careful in all this.

Frankly, I'm scared to death. While going about my normal life. Making plans for next years travel, finishing up this year, getting ready for the holidays.... just like I did before the pandemic. On the other end of that, what I learned is, sh!t can change real fast.

a reply to: Insurrectile

Yeah. I don't think the Hamas charter should have any bearing on our policy decisions.

Of course you're right, it shouldn't.
They should be judged on their acts and deeds; constantly carrying out terrorist acts upon Israel and refusing to enter discussions about peaceful coexistence.

And it has nothing to do with 'us' - Israel has not asked or sought active support from anyone.

a reply to: blindmellojello

Except, that they've stated their decision, to bombard them indiscriminately, in advance. And with no regard for the hostages, which is why the protesters wont stop any time soon, either.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Leviathan4

So you support containing Hamas and the Palestinian people behind a secure fence?
I thought you likened existing in Gaza as being like in a concentration camp. Wouldn't building a secure wall strengthen that feeling?

And its containment, its not addressing root causes.....the main one's of which are Hamas's intention of removing all Jews from Palestine, securing an Islamic/Arab state there and refusing to consider even the notion of peaceful coexistence.

I support ceasefire for now and peace in general.
Yes Gaza is a concentration camp but the reason isn't because of Hamas.

Biden said only a few days ago (probably coming from his advisors) that looking forward to the future we want a two state solution. So the US Policy has already been made clear. He didn't mention fences, concentration camps, etc. Although they do exist.

As said above

But if we think about it more rationally, can Hamas really annihilate Israel? The answer is obviously not. Hamas has very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes, no navy. Nothing. Once the fence is secured Hamas can do nothing. Just as it was all these years. They can only launch rockets but with very limited success.

So once the fence is secured, which is the main reason why Hamas was able to do what they did on the 7th of October, then there is nothing else they can do. And Israel won't have an excuse of killing thousands of innocent civilians.

Adding to this.

This is not a long term plan and Gaza should have never been turned into an open prison.

originally posted by: kwaka
a reply to: Leviathan4

So once the fence is secured

The fence with Gaza has been secured for a long time. As for why it took a day off on the 7th, some glitch?

That's what I meant.