Realistic Solution to Palestinian-Isreali Conflict

First of all to find a solution, we need to look at the problem in a way that we could understand

To make the situation more clear, let's replace some names
Palestine will be called USA
Israel will be called Afghanistan
Antisemitism = Anti-Jihad
Terrorist = American Resistance Fighter

Weapons:
Afghan Army: F-35 & Abram Tanks
American Army: Pistols.

Let's assume Afghanistan government kicked all Americans from their homes and gave them a small piece of land near Mexican border. Claiming that an Afghan family walked on American land some 3 million years ago, and they have right to own America. So the Afghan army brought their kids and wives to live in your home. Some Americans didn't like the situation and started firing home-made rockets into occupied American territories which caused the whole world to call Americans terrorists/(Pro-Death) because they are killing civilians and want to fight.

Now to resolve this issue, you have to think as American, would you fight for America or go to Mexico? Especially it the Afghan military said that you should go to Mexico if you don't want to get bombed.

FOR THIS SPECIFIC STORY, nothing more, nothing less.

What would you do as an American, give up on your land or be called a terrorist that wants to kill all Afghans who stole your home.

If we could find an answer to this question, we might be able to solve all middle east problems.

a reply to: Mawdano

sadly that is not even remotely applicable.

It is more like you (Palestine) were renting from your landlord (UK) sold it to your neighbour (Israel), the landlord decided to stick with the neighbour, you called in your gang (Arab world led by Egypt) lost the fight and ever since stalk and molest the new owner (Israel)

a reply to: FurPerson

That's a story for another day because the number of immigrants living and sold properties were very low percentage of land. This is very similar to America, a lot of houses is owned by non-Americans. The story line is still very applicable.

Let's keep the story line to what I have stated in the first post, we then could reach a solution then we could go to history books to figure out the validity of the details you have mentioned specially the numbers of sold homes, population etc.

Keep this discussion for another day.

a reply to: Mawdano



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a reply to: Mawdano

Is this the "Rube-Goldberg Machine" interpretation?

a reply to: chr0naut

Nope, it's not related to anything beyond trying to understand the story.

a reply to: Mawdano

is that how you do business? I got false data on conditions and value then I use that to get what I want and after the fact we can see I bought a bucket of rust?

are you Trump? That's the Art of the Deal scam isn't it?

originally posted by: FurPerson
a reply to: Mawdano

is that how you do business? I got false data on conditions and value then I use that to get what I want and after the fact we can see I bought a bucket of rust?

are you Trump? That's the Art of the Deal scam isn't it?

Please stay in line with the story line, no need for philosophy. There is a certain problem we are discussing here.

originally posted by: Mawdano
a reply to: chr0naut

Nope, it's not related to anything beyond trying to understand the story.

The story is simple, radicalized perpetrators who believe they have a historical and religious right are dumping on the people who happen to be trapped in-between.

And neither side is going to give, because they are willing to selflessly sacrifice everybody else to get their way.

a reply to: chr0naut

As an American given the above story, would you fight or listen to Afghan Army and just go Mexico to please the world so that you would be called pro-life?

a reply to: Mawdano

exactly. and the same issue has arisen as it does in reality: we can't agree on what the actual true reality is, because between how you see it and I see it there is no compromise possible.

Either you surrender or one of us 'drops out', and I won't stop just because you tell me too

funny how that works ain't it?

a reply to: FurPerson

You're just spamming with philosophy. You have said nothing useful.

There is a story that is good enough as a start. If you have another story, go make another thread. Stop spamming.

a reply to: Mawdano

no. you wanted to start a discussion, that is why you write a thread on a discussion board. Here I am discussing with you.

lol

this is not a no comments preaching falsehoods page, maybe you'd be happier on facebook?

a reply to: FurPerson

You're not discussing the topic, you're making false historical claims with no data or statistics. That's for another day. If you want to participate and receive a reply from me, you can discuss the story. If you want to post false/manipulated historical information, you will be ignored.

First off, it doesn't really matter, because TPTB don't actually want a solution.
All this debating and deliberating on TV is all for show, to make people think they're being thoughtful about people's lives being at stake.
They aren't.
The coming war has been planned for a couple decades, because war is profitable to them.

That said, GENERAL SOLUTION:
Israel is surrounded on all sides by Muslims. Much of Islam is fundamentalist.
Putting the jews there was objectively sadistic and dumb.
We have a lot of open habitable land.
Just offer to relocate Israel to somewhere in the US and give them part of Alaska or some other large habitable space.
USA has a lot of Judeo Christians and would actually be welcoming, and they'd have nothing to worry about with Canada or Mexico. The Russians haven't messed with Alaska yet, so why would they mess with jews there?
If they don't take the offer, then stay out of the conflict.
I doubt they'd accept such an offer though, and no one is offering to take in Palestinian Muslims, so...

Basically, we unironically need the AntiChrist.
Hey, we already had a global pandemic.

PERSONAL SOLUTION:
People like me probably won't have a choice but to get drafted IMO.
I will try to run to Canada when that happens, but if Canada sends me back I'm screwed.
That's my solution.

originally posted by: Mawdano
a reply to: chr0naut

As an American given the above story, would you fight or listen to Afghan Army and just go Mexico to please the world so that you would be called pro-life?

I am not an American, or an Afghani.

But both populations are human beings, with human needs and desires, so, perhaps, there is some possibility of common ground rather than increasing divisions and cutting up the world into smaller and smaller bits.

There is such a thing as a win-win situation, but you have to think about how that could happen and it would probably take a little effort.

I can guarantee that the effort is much preferable than having your extremities splashed to sticky red clouds of spray by random ordinance. That would NOT be a good outcome and if you are only looking for a win-lose situation, then someone is definitely going to lose.

And I am pro-life.

a reply to: chr0naut

I'll speak on behalf of afghan army. You won't get any land as long as your fellow Americans are fighting. If any American throw a rock or fire a bullet near one of our tanks, we will send our F-35 to kill all the terrorists. Move to Mexico or we will consider you to be a human shield. If you chose to stay, we wont let you get water or electricity.

originally posted by: TheValeyard
First off, it doesn't really matter, because TPTB don't actually want a solution.
All this debating and deliberating on TV is all for show, to make people think they're being thoughtful about people's lives being at stake.
They aren't.
The coming war has been planned for a couple decades, because war is profitable to them.

That said, GENERAL SOLUTION:
Israel is surrounded on all sides by Muslims. Much of Islam is fundamentalist.
Putting the jews there was objectively sadistic and dumb.
We have a lot of open habitable land.
Just offer to relocate Israel to somewhere in the US and give them part of Alaska or some other large habitable space.
USA has a lot of Judeo Christians and would actually be welcoming, and they'd have nothing to worry about with Canada or Mexico. The Russians haven't messed with Alaska yet, so why would they mess with jews there?
If they don't take the offer, then stay out of the conflict.
I doubt they'd accept such an offer though, and no one is offering to take in Palestinian Muslims, so...

Basically, we unironically need the AntiChrist.
Hey, we already had a global pandemic.

PERSONAL SOLUTION:
People like me probably won't have a choice but to get drafted IMO.
I will try to run to Canada when that happens, but if Canada sends me back I'm screwed.
That's my solution.

The Pseudo-Christ's solution does not hold, but the defeat of the Pseudo-Christ does lead to the real Christ's solution.

You should read the book.

a reply to: Mawdano

the topic is the Palestine Israel conflict and I am absolutely discussing that.

I have pointed out to you that your entire premise is hogwash and twaddle...
But you do you, after I said that + your reaction to it I am not interested in you or whatever you got to say anyways anymore.
Talking to a park bench could offer me deeper insights to the issue at hands than trying to explain the world to you

originally posted by: Mawdano
a reply to: chr0naut

I'll speak on behalf of afghan army. You won't get any land as long as your fellow Americans are fighting. If any American throw a rock or fire a bullet near one of our tanks, we will send our F-35 to kill all the terrorists. Move to Mexico or we will consider you to be a human shield.

Yes, but are you from North America, or North North America (like above the Mason-Dixie line), or North North North America (like Canada), or North North East North America (like Alaska and bits of Russia)?

Or perhaps you are from South North America (below the Mason-Dixie line)?

Or, perhaps you are from an even even smaller division, like the 'Detroit Strip', or perhaps 'the West Bank' of the Colorado River?