Cornish Witches are real: I know because I used to be one.

I follow Christ. Even when I was a witch I regarded Him as the most powerful Shaman who ever existed. I never renounced Him, but for a while I was a witch. I was initiated into a West Cornwall coven at Lamorna. I don't have the energy today to write a huge thread about it, but a lot of what I experienced then has stayed with me as very beautiful knowledge and experience of nature that Scripture did not give me. We have to admit that the NT is a very miserable fate for the world until Christ comes to put it right. All the Apostles told us that if we follow Christ we will come to know what the word suffering means. Yes, I know what that word means now too. When I was a witch it was all very sensual, beautiful and full of fun, games and much excitement. It led me to a place of darknress away from G-D though. I had to get out. It took a lot of doing too and made me psychologically disturbed afterwards. It has been a long journey to build my soul since.

Jo O'Cleirigh may well no longer be alive now. He must be in his late eighties and was becoming ill with dementia the last I heard of him a few years ago. He is the man who taught me all about nature. He lived in an old woodcutter's caravan in the woods at Lamorna (the walk I showed you yesterday). I used to stay in the caravan when he was away. He had built himself his own very beautiful little stone circle there. That is where I was initiated. There is no animals sacrificed with these kinds of people. They love animals and humans. They are nature lovers who love the sensual. They are not evil people at all. Wicca is very beautiful, but unfortunately it belongs in our beginnings. There is no going back to Eden. An Angel with a sword guards it from us. The Lord has come to make of humanity something technological and timeless, beyong the cycles of dung and death that is nature's lot. That is GOOD NEWS compared to mortality, atrophy and death. I would rather have HIS Light than the mystical dirt of HIS Creation.

The mistake that Pagans make is that they worship the creation and not the Creator. I know it is controversial to make a statement like that, but that has been my experience and I assure you I am very experienced. My magic was very powerful and it worked, but it got me into serious soul trouble that is the most dangerous trouble of all. I was becoming like a noble beast. It was creeping upon me in a very subtle way, like ivy up an oak tree.

Gemma was visiting Jo at the same time as I. He kept us apart for his own selfish reasons. Gemma was actually the secret weapon. If she had been involved I don't think I would have left as her feminine power at that time would have been just too tempting. She is my original coven sister still. I love her very much. We never have met, but we may well have met in dreams. I have spoken to her in writing. She has written some amazing books and she is very experienced and knowledgeable.

We have all experienced a cataclysm. Jo lost everything regarding his objectives. It just wouldn't work for him mission. He was/is lonely at his end. Gemma suddenly has withdrawn all her books and killed her website. It is like G-D saw us that we were kind about His Creation and He has been trying to put us right.

There are many Pagans in Cornwall. Nature is still very potent and alive here and so is its magic and mystery.

Enjoy these pictures. It is a very dear memory for me. I needed to write this to make it exist as it is all disappearing. The woodcutter's caravan NEMETON is named after the Lake of Nemi in Italy, near to Rome. It is a wood where Diana's Temple used to be. I will tell you all about that soon. A great mystery was revealed to me about this regarding the deep impulses of the natural world played out in the drama of human behaviour and religion. Jo regarded himself as a King of the Wood, a Green Man and Diana's Priest. He was also a very experienced archaeologist.

I met the author of "The Great Cosmic Mother" in those woods at that caravan. She was called Monica Sjoo. She is no longer alive. She was horrible to me and that is when I first began to suspect all was not right with this thing as no priest of G-D has ever been mean to me in a cruel way like that. I respect her though. Her book is very fascinating. It is a history of the Goddess archetype in the human psyche as expressed through our collective history, world wide.

Also the painter Ithell Colquhoun lived here and had a studio. She is a very amazing painter and her paintings still have meaning for us in terms of our linking with nature around us. Her art is esoteric, a very rare thing.

I want the pictures to tell the rest of this story:



Jo O'Cleirigh.




Jo O'Cleirigh with friend at Nemeton caravan.




Nemeton (front).




Nemeton (rear).




Inside Nemeton.




Gemma Gary and her familiar friend.




Gemma Gary and her familiar friend 2.




Gemma doing her thing.




Gemma doing her thing 2.




Ithell Colquhoun the artist when younger.




Ithell Colquhoun the artist when older.




Ithell Colquhoun art.




Monica Sjoo with art.




Monica's art.




Cover of Monica's book "The Great Cosmic Mother" that she wrote with Barbara Mor who was an American Pagan activist, author and poet.




Barbara Mor, co author of "The Great Cosmic Mother" (She is an influence to Alice Walker, the author of The Color Purple).


The only ones who are left from that original scene are Gemma and I. We have both withdrawn from the world. Although I follow Christ I have a great knowledge of the esoteric and natural forces. It is all gone now, just the memories of dung and death.

I believe we should value G-D's Creation and develop a sensitivity to nature. Obviously we are like monsters of destruction as it stands. We have much developing to do before we are free of these nightmares of our own making.

Women are still sacred to me. You still are my Great Comsic Mama! My life isn't much fun now. Remember my chains, like St. Paul. I am being patient in my suffering like James told me to be. I feel like I am stone without sensuality though, Lord!

No they're not and no your not!

c'mon!

originally posted by: 4nnH3r0
No they're not and no your not!

c'mon!

You really have no idea! Members, you can search all this for yourselves. All these people are real and can be found by Google searches. My experience of them is real too.

a reply to: Avengelist

I'm so glad to hear that you were brought out of pagan pitfalls and rebuilt your relationship with the Creator instead of worshiping creation. Is there more you can tell us about your pathway back and how you came to this understanding? Also, what became of Gemma?

a reply to: Avengelist
Were you the ones who were laying coins on top of stone circles?

a reply to: 4nnH3r0
There's no need to be sceptical, as long as we distinguish between the witches of the Middle Ages and the self-avowed modern pagans who call themselves witches. The latter phenomenon is real enough.

a reply to: DISRAELI2
Speaking from my heart. I would never call myself a witch, all I do is serve mother nature. No magic wands, no spells needed. The rewards I get can not be payed with money, even though I do it to serve, not receive.

a reply to: Deetermined2

Yes, me too. It has been a Job experience. I have faith that I am being restored. G-D knows a good heart and HE will try with us if HE knows we are trying. My life is getting good these days.

Yes, if ATS stays up I aim to write lots here. I urge everyone else to do the same. We can make this site a very seriously good quality site. It is all up to us.

Jo wanted to recreate Nemi. His cult did not make it past a green shoot though because his own innate goodness could not bring a seed against the Creator. He was/is a good man. I vouch for him all the way.

We were serious in our experiments. We are the original. The new Pagans will all end up with the same experience I had, to lesser or greater degrees.

There is no going back to Eden. It is a sword of some kind for those who try. No going back to nature simplicity and her myths. The G-D who is like a Great Alien King in the Sky is here.

I put the B back into Jo. Do you get that?

JO(B).

I had to suffer to kill that green shoot, believe me.

originally posted by: DISRAELI2
a reply to: Avengelist
Were you the ones who were laying coins on top of stone circles?

No! I expect there is a Cult that does that though.

I am not that any longer. This from twenty years ago. I have been following Christ since the 11/11/11/11/11 Lunar eclipse over the UK in 1999.

Yes the Moon I worshipped told me about the G-D I worship now. That is the Magic of G-D at work.

originally posted by: DISRAELI2
a reply to: 4nnH3r0
There's no need to be sceptical, as long as we distinguish between the witches of the Middle Ages and the self-avowed modern pagans who call themselves witches. The latter phenomenon is real enough.

Agreed! There are no continuous chains. It is REFORM NATURE WORSHIP.

The only ones who have the unbroken link to nature are the few indigenous people left in the remote areas who keep away from us.

We should regard them as sacred, as a world, and protect them as the unbroken link.

originally posted by: ThatDamnDuckAgain
a reply to: DISRAELI2
Speaking from my heart. I would never call myself a witch, all I do is serve mother nature. No magic wands, no spells needed. The rewards I get can not be payed with money, even though I do it to serve, not receive.

Yes, many different kinds of Pagans. It all started with Gerald Gardner and Aleister Crowley. The British gentry, elites, including Rothschild, the Russian Romanovs too, all were interested in the occult and this is when it came back into our consciousness in the West; through all those guys. They are Bohemians. I am still Bohemian of sorts. It was the aristocratic fashion of the time. May be it still is?

There is a reason for this. G-D will tell us why.

I always tease the Rothschilds that THEIR STAR is from previous Rothschild's messing with the occult back then; the Keys of Solomon and ritual magic. It is an occult symbol from Babylon. David did not have a shield with that symbol on it. There is a great irony about this which I will tell you about, but not today. The magic sure worked. They got Israel back.

I really do know everything about this subject there is to know. I have read ALL THE BOOKS and experienced all the NATURE MAGIC.

I just chose Christ instead of sensuality, the beautiful dirt and the temporal matter in all its beauty and cruelty. One day earth will be a withered Crone too. Gaia will be an old woman and she will die. She is as mortal as everything that lives on her. Could be getting close to the menopause now even?

You have to admit that is so. Science tells us it is. There is a tomb waiting for her in the black hole of the universe's YOU KNOW WHAT. Shall we call it a cave of darkness or a womb of light?

originally posted by: Deetermined2
a reply to: Avengelist

I'm so glad to hear that you were brought out of pagan pitfalls and rebuilt your relationship with the Creator instead of worshiping creation. Is there more you can tell us about your pathway back and how you came to this understanding? Also, what became of Gemma?

Sorry for the wait:

I do not know. In recent years she pulled all her books and took her website down. She has obviously had some major experience of regret. There can be no other reason. I prayed that it would happen because she is a very amazing and beautiful person.

Her books were selling well for lot of money in America. There is a big market there. If you look they sell for hunderds of dollars now as rare and out of print.

I know she is very private. She is still around these parts.

a reply to: Avengelist

Finally, you have written the thread that you deem true enough to interact with people on.

Important step .

Cults! And you know the difference between nature and nature cults.

So you have adopted a mythology that the Earth was originally a perfect garden(Eden) that has been degraded and is being degraded further into dung. And the corollary that there is someone to "save" you from that.

Is there any actual experiential or scientific basis upon which you chose that myth?

a reply to: FullHeathen

Why is it a myth? Why do you feel compelled to question this man's experiences?

a reply to: Avengelist

You write beautifully.

As an atheist I can only marvel at the spiritual experiences to be had by others, and sometimes admittedly I am envious of it.

Don't be discouraged by others on here I would love to read any and everything that you are willing to share.

a reply to: BukkaWukka

Why is it a myth? Why do you feel compelled to question this man's experiences?

I will go with this definition of myth:

Myth, a story of the gods, a religious account of the beginning of the world, the creation, fundamental events, the exemplary deeds of the gods as a result of which the world, nature and culture were created together with all parts thereof and given their order, which still obtains. A myth expresses and confirms society's religious values and norms, it provides a pattern of behavior to be imitated, testifies to the efficacy of ritual with its practical ends and establishes the sanctity of cult.
Myth

I question because that which is handed out by cults is cultish.

If the OP is now a Christ follower because Christ appeared to him and told him of something like resurrection, that would be one thing. Whereas if some "saving from death to life" is merely the teaching of a cult, written about by cult leaders, that is another thing altogether.

a reply to: FullHeathen

Ah, I see. I understand. Thank you!

a reply to: Avengelist


Take no notice of the young folk around here pal … I enjoyed reading that .. not sure about you being a witch with powers but I believe you’ve had a very interesting life by all accounts .. 👍