The Real Truth About The Gaza Hospital Attack

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: DBCowboy

What's this to do with the jews?
Jews can be jews wherever they like.
It's about radicals breeding more radicals.

Yeah, I guess America can be where ever also.

Mebbe Russia will give us some land if China takes over.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: SourGrapes

Lol i don't do the side thing...
people who actively support war are sick #s...

You have just proven that you do choose sides.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: DBCowboy

I want Israel to show that they can solve problems without creating more of them, I guess that's not their forte... So more problems for them...
Wait... they might be onto their very own twist of a final solution. Cool...

What about Hamas and the Palestinians?
Your omission proves your side.

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: Leviathan4


Forced expulsion is a war crime. Israel ordered millions of Palestinians to move.
Nobody ripped anybody out their house and made them leave.
They humanely warned them that it would be in the best interests of their children if they removed themselves from the warzone.
NOT a war crime.

Israel has cut off water supply and electricity.
It is NOT a war crime to deny the enemy any kind of resource, not even oxygen.

There is no conclusion not even an investigation in relation to the attack at the Hospital.
France, the UK, the US and Canada have investigated and all found that it was a rocket from the terrorists that hit the hospital parking lot.
Those are the facts Chang.

Millions of people are doing exactly the same thing and they are protesting on the streets.
You keep putting this in every post thinking it helps your case.
It reminds me of a bumper sticker a friend of mine had which read..
“Eat sh*t, millions of flies can’t be wrong”
Do you now understand how your phrase is hurting, not helping, your case?

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

All of the above are war crimes.

You won't be able to see them as war crimes and regardless of the laws when you engage in the promotion of state propaganda

a reply to: Leviathan4

I’m starting to see through you and the other poster.

I think others here are as well.

Over and out

a reply to: VermiIion

They humanely warned them that it would be in the best interests of their children if they removed themselves from the warzone.
NOT a war crime.

Incredible type of state propaganda!
They have humanely warned them!!

May I add:
And they have sent them humanitarian bombs that have killed thousands and thousands of kids and women. Great philanthropy after all....

a reply to: 3n19m470
Palestinians are a Semitic people without their own standing army ready to defend their borders, so yeah, praise baal and baphomet Canaanites be Canaaniting.

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: Leviathan4

I’m starting to see through you and the other poster.

I think others here are as well.

Over and out

Millions of people are against the war and not in agreement with the actions of the Israeli Government. It's not just me or the other poster. That's what you have failed to see or pretend you don't see. I am very confident I am on the right side of history.

If others want to support war crimes and atrocities that's up to them. I simply won't change my position on this matter.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: Leviathan4


Forced expulsion is a war crime. Israel ordered millions of Palestinians to move.
Nobody ripped anybody out their house and made them leave.
They humanely warned them that it would be in the best interests of their children if they removed themselves from the warzone.
NOT a war crime.

Israel has cut off water supply and electricity.
It is NOT a war crime to deny the enemy any kind of resource, not even oxygen.

There is no conclusion not even an investigation in relation to the attack at the Hospital.
France, the UK, the US and Canada have investigated and all found that it was a rocket from the terrorists that hit the hospital parking lot.
Those are the facts Chang.

Millions of people are doing exactly the same thing and they are protesting on the streets.
You keep putting this in every post thinking it helps your case.
It reminds me of a bumper sticker a friend of mine had which read..
“Eat sh*t, millions of flies can’t be wrong”
Do you now understand how your phrase is hurting, not helping, your case?

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

All of the above are war crimes.

You won't be able to see them as war crimes and regardless of the laws when you engage in the promotion of state propaganda

No they’re not all war crimes, you can bomb schools, hospitals and civilian dwellings if they’re are deemed a military necessity. I already told you that in one of your other 100 threads on the same topic. Do your homework before dishing out misinformation.

The classification of a military act during conflict as a war crime depends on whether the act was justified. So the bombing of a school or residential building may not be considered a war crime if it was deemed militarily necessary. It is a war crime to use civilians as human shields which Hamas has and continues to do in spades. Here’s a novel idea…. Don’t put your military command post in hospital basements, build military tunnels around or underneath civilian dwellings or harbor militants in civilian dwellings, they will be taken out, legally.

When the progeny of the Holocaust becomes genocidal in their attempt to eradicate one group.
Imagine instead of it being Jewish people in the holocaust, singled out for religion, you have all of Gaza now singled out for the actions of Hamas.
@OP Good luck...
I'm so confused by these grumpy warmonger boomers on this site. 😅
They're clearly all stuck in that segregation, penny candy, xenophobic BS of their day.
Must miss it dearly, I'd wager.

a reply to: 3n19m470

Show any valid intelligence reports that prove unequivocally that is true, that Hamas was inside the hospital. If they could prove that and not look murderous, wouldn't they?
Otherwise it's still collective punishment, which is illegal, as established by the Geneva Convention after Ww2 to stop any other country from committing the acts the Germans did in war.
These conventions were written to prevent further genocide and loss of civilian lives,specifically those perpetrated against the Jewish people across Europe.
Make sure you do your homework too, bud.
Provide any level of citation for your quote, so anyone else can read it's origin and context.


Also, considering there is no active way to retaliate against Israeli airstrikes, there is no Hamas reaction to any of it.
Hamas is hiding in tunnels with their ransom.
Not standing in hospitals thinking they're safe.
Agitprop BS.


a reply to: NeonKnights

Oh and you're Nato stratcom quotation above isn't in the Geneva Convention.
These are new rules of war being written to ensure "legality."
The First Geneva Convention states that there should be no "obstacle to the humanitarian activities" and that wounded and sick "shall be respected and protected in all circumstances." Article 19 demands that medical units, i.e. hospitals and mobile medical facilities, may in no circumstances be attacked.
a reply to: NeonKnights

originally posted by: WarAndMoreFleece


you have all of Gaza now singled out for the actions of Hamas.


a reply to: 3n19m470

Like Germans were for the actions at Nazis

And Japan with Hirohito

To name two of many.

It’s war. That’s what war is.

Don’t get too cocky about your generation yet.
It sounds like you still have a ways to go.

Oddly enough I'd never interacted with you yet, but I'm glad to see you willing to age yourself, and very much feel defensive by those simple words.
After the war ended, the Germans weren't airstrikes daily to make sure we didn't miss Nazi soldiers.
The Japanese population didn't get bombed after the war ended.
Your rhetoric is flawed severely.
Those were also wars with two visibly armed and capable adversaries.
Hamas perpetrated a terrorist act.
Israel declared War, on Hamas, but now clearly visibly all of Gaza.
There is no airforce of Hamas to fight back. No tanks.

You also haven't a clue of my age, nor my generation as a result.
With the way you dolts ruined things with your red scare Cold War BS, I'll be lucky to see my generation be as long as yours.
It's a very specific generation of this country that has caused, and perpetuated this idiocy.
Take some ownership, if not for yourself then for the politics your parents were dumb enough to participate in.

a reply to: NorthOS

originally posted by: WarAndMoreFleece
Show any valid intelligence reports that prove unequivocally that is true, that Hamas was inside the hospital. If they could prove that and not look murderous, wouldn't they?
Otherwise it's still collective punishment, which is illegal, as established by the Geneva Convention after Ww2 to stop any other country from committing the acts the Germans did in war.
These conventions were written to prevent further genocide and loss of civilian lives,specifically those perpetrated against the Jewish people across Europe.
Make sure you do your homework too, bud.
Provide any level of citation for your quote, so anyone else can read it's origin and context.


Also, considering there is no active way to retaliate against Israeli airstrikes, there is no Hamas reaction to any of it.
Hamas is hiding in tunnels with their ransom.
Not standing in hospitals thinking they're safe.
Agitprop BS.


a reply to: NeonKnights

You talking the hospital that Hamas bombed?

You don’t have a clue or any knowledge of where Hamas is, you don’t know, so stop thinking you do, all you have is personal assumptions that don’t mean jack. Im sure they’re in hospitals, civilian dwellings, tunnels, etc….. Hamas does have a command post below one of the hospitals, perfectly legal to level it. So….once again you’re dead wrong.

And yes if there are military combatants in a hospital or they’re are using it to store weapons and ammo, you can bomb the # out of it. Country’s including the US. Have been doing it for decades. Hamas would actually be the ones guilty of war crimes for using human shields not Israel for bombing it. Israel has not bombed a hospital there as far as I know.

Is this your other sock puppet account lev???🤣

a reply to: WarAndMoreFleece

This war hasn’t ended. It’s just beginning and there’s not a damn thing you or I can do about it.

It hasn’t even reached the Dresden, Hiroshima stage.

Right now Israel is undergoing attacks from nearly every front. Hamas, Houthi, Hezbollah, Iran through Syria.

I’m just a realist.

But…

a reply to: WarAndMoreFleece

Maybe do some reading so you don’t keep looking ignorant and spreading misinformation.

From the war in Afghanistan and the US-backed Saudi intervention in Yemen, to the Israeli occupation of Palestine and the Syrian civil war, hospitals have increasingly been targeted by military forces. The justification for many of these attacks has been uncannily similar: the hospitals were bombed because they were shielding combatants and therefore the attacks do not constitute a violation of international law. Hospitals, in other words, are now classified as if they are equivalent to human shields.

Geneva Convention is basically out the door there buddy.

What ties all of these examples together is not merely the use of similar rhetoric, but more importantly the same underlying assumption: when health care facilities become “hospital shields” they lose the protected status they are granted by the Geneva Conventions. Thus, once framed as shields, these facilities can be bombarded without violating international law.

First, the logic of the human shields clauses can, it seems, quite easily be transferred to medical facilities. International law prohibits the use of civilians as human shields to protect military targets, but it also permits the attacking forces to kill human shields as long as they abide by the principle of proportionality. In this instance, then, international law ceases to protect civilians and actually becomes a weapon of the strong, protecting those who kill non-combatants. By extension, if hospitals are used as shields, they too can be bombed provided the principle of proportionality is not breached. Second, international law affirms that the protection to which hospitals are entitled is revoked when they are “used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy.” This extremely vague formulation lends itself to those who target hospitals. Unlike IHL clauses prohibiting torture, which are absolute, applying at all times and in all circumstances, the articles relating to the bombardment of hospitals are conditional. Therefore, in certain “exceptional” situations medical facilities do lose their protected status.

www.justsecurity.org...

a reply to: NorthOS

You cant expect that from hamas because they don't share the same values as the west... Israel does, but do they really?

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: VermiIion
a reply to: Leviathan4


Forced expulsion is a war crime. Israel ordered millions of Palestinians to move.
Nobody ripped anybody out their house and made them leave.
They humanely warned them that it would be in the best interests of their children if they removed themselves from the warzone.
NOT a war crime.

Israel has cut off water supply and electricity.
It is NOT a war crime to deny the enemy any kind of resource, not even oxygen.

There is no conclusion not even an investigation in relation to the attack at the Hospital.
France, the UK, the US and Canada have investigated and all found that it was a rocket from the terrorists that hit the hospital parking lot.
Those are the facts Chang.

Millions of people are doing exactly the same thing and they are protesting on the streets.
You keep putting this in every post thinking it helps your case.
It reminds me of a bumper sticker a friend of mine had which read..
“Eat sh*t, millions of flies can’t be wrong”
Do you now understand how your phrase is hurting, not helping, your case?

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

All of the above are war crimes.

You won't be able to see them as war crimes and regardless of the laws when you engage in the promotion of state propaganda

No they’re not all war crimes, you can bomb schools, hospitals and civilian dwellings if they’re are deemed a military necessity. I already told you that in one of your other 100 threads on the same topic. Do your homework before dishing out misinformation.

The classification of a military act during conflict as a war crime depends on whether the act was justified. So the bombing of a school or residential building may not be considered a war crime if it was deemed militarily necessary. It is a war crime to use civilians as human shields which Hamas has and continues to do in spades. Here’s a novel idea…. Don’t put your military command post in hospital basements, build military tunnels around or underneath civilian dwellings or harbor militants in civilian dwellings, they will be taken out, legally.

The following are war crimes and have been committed by Israel

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers



You won't be able to see them as war crimes and regardless of the laws when you engage in the promotion of state propaganda

Do your homework before dishing out misinformation.

It is you who is trying to push misinformation in these threads and trying to excuse and justify a range of war crimes committed in the name of self defense and freedom.

You cannot bomb schools and hospitals or whatever the IDF considers a military target.
I see my threads have hit a lot of nerves as they expose the wrongdoings of war.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: NorthOS

You cant expect that from hamas because they don't share the same values as the west... Israel does, but do they really?

It doesn't seem they share the same values as the West.

A few hours ago Netanyahou appealed to the Old Testament to claim war and destruction to the enemies of his country. The International Community and especially Western Countries must have to reconsider the relationship with this country especially after the bombing and destruction of Gaza.