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originally posted by: gortex
Didn't you think she was telling the truth when she was part of Trump's team ? , but now you don't ?
originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth
originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: Waterglass
WTF was wrong with this woman to discredit herself for a dumb arse. Her and the others. At this point F "orange" man IMO.
Because the Democrat party cheated and stole the 2020 election. That's why. That fact will never change and is a stain on American history. She stood up and sacrificed her reputation for the truth.
Pretty simple actually
Except that didn't happen in reality. Only in Trump's head and some brain washed followers.
We still have to see a single shred of evidence (proven in a court of law) that this actually occurred. All I've heard to date is stories and conjecture and have seen zero evidence.
If we're trying to "Deny Ignorance" on this site, then come forward with proven facts.
That's because the Supreme Court refused to hear the case. ( yet somehow was willing to hear Al Gore's case in 2000.)
There has been plenty of evidence.
hereistheevidence.com...
A court acquitted OJ Simpson so I guess that means he was innocent and his own DNA lied 🤷🏻‍♂️
Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it reality.
I'm not going to assess each item, but I hardly consider that evidence.
originally posted by: Enduro
originally posted by: nugget1
If the gov. were after me I'm pretty sure they could drum up enough 'evidence' to ruin the rest of my life. I'd probably take a plea deal too, especially if the offer included some behind the scenes reward for my 'cooperation.
The 'justice' system has been proven time and time again to railroad a person on manufactured evidence, skewed testimony, half truths, blackmail and threats of repercussions.
Right now it's the conservative party being targeted; it will be interesting to watch when/if the pendulum swings back the other way. 'Nobody is above the law' and corrupt system that uses it for to further their agenda.
20 years if found guilty or plea deal for probation if you plead guilty. I don’t know many people who wouldn’t take a plea deal.
Someone who is innocent of the charges would not take the plea deal.
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: CanadianLoudMouth
Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it reality.
Other side of that coin is just because you don't acknowledge the evidence doesn't make it go away.
I'm not going to assess each item, but I hardly consider that evidence.
Quite literally embracing ignorance....
originally posted by: More1ThanAny1
The government has deep pockets. Going against them is financial suicide. In most cases plea deals help stop the hemorrhaging of money. Our legal system is broken when the government (or the side with deeper pockets) can coerce someone into admitting guilt. It is up there with torture, waterboarding for example, where innocent people will admit to something just to make the pain stop. Sad times.
originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: Waterglass
WTF was wrong with this woman to discredit herself for a dumb arse. Her and the others. At this point F "orange" man IMO.
Because the Democrat party cheated and stole the 2020 election. That's why. That fact will never change and is a stain on American history. She stood up and sacrificed her reputation for the truth.
Pretty simple actually
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: More1ThanAny1
The government has deep pockets. Going against them is financial suicide. In most cases plea deals help stop the hemorrhaging of money. Our legal system is broken when the government (or the side with deeper pockets) can coerce someone into admitting guilt. It is up there with torture, waterboarding for example, where innocent people will admit to something just to make the pain stop. Sad times.
And that is the goal recently as to how the Governments deals with everything. They just keep coming at a person until that person is broke and in ruins. Was listening to a talk show and they were joking about My Pillow guy who is now basically broke with legal fees. His business is crashing as he sells off what he can. All fun and games to liberals, I guess, but that is the standard operations for NY.
I'm sure they will say...well next time you will think twice about what you say...Thought police is alive and well.
originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth
originally posted by: Enduro
originally posted by: nugget1
If the gov. were after me I'm pretty sure they could drum up enough 'evidence' to ruin the rest of my life. I'd probably take a plea deal too, especially if the offer included some behind the scenes reward for my 'cooperation.
The 'justice' system has been proven time and time again to railroad a person on manufactured evidence, skewed testimony, half truths, blackmail and threats of repercussions.
Right now it's the conservative party being targeted; it will be interesting to watch when/if the pendulum swings back the other way. 'Nobody is above the law' and corrupt system that uses it for to further their agenda.
20 years if found guilty or plea deal for probation if you plead guilty. I don’t know many people who wouldn’t take a plea deal.
Someone who is innocent of the charges would not take the plea deal.
I was once accused of theft by the police. Wouldn't budge no matter what they said. In the end I walked away because I knew I hadn't done anything wrong and they knew they had zero evidence.
originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
She also, as part of her plea has agreed to testify honestly about her co-defendants at future trials.
McCarthyism anyone...
Show trials. The Bolsheviks would be proud.
Cheers
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Enduro
Will she be proven innocent by DNA?
Doubt it.