Heart Disease Risk Skyrockets In Trans People Taking Hormones Study Finds

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Totally right. It's just odd to see someone proud of arguing for others to have the right to kill their kids. But you do you.

I am not arguing the right for others to kill their kids, I am arguing for the right for transpeople to choose whatever means or ways they want to be whoever they want to be. Their bodies, their choices.

Yes, and apparently the drugs used to treat these folks are doing some bad things. But again, you do you.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

Liar.

This is being pushed in schools, in books, in media, social media.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Totally right. It's just odd to see someone proud of arguing for others to have the right to kill their kids. But you do you.

I am not arguing the right for others to kill their kids, I am arguing for the right for transpeople to choose whatever means or ways they want to be whoever they want to be. Their bodies, their choices.

Yes, and apparently the drugs used to treat these folks are doing some bad things. But again, you do you.

I will always do me by trying to show the facts instead of the hype.

Glintborg told the Daily Caller News Foundation that this “should not result in no medication, but we should screen for risk factors for cardiovascular disease and discuss risk … with the patients.”

Do you read that this "should not result in NO medication", hmm?

Again, their bodies, their choices.

Bottom line - the hormones that trans people get are not free of side effects.
And heart problems are a major side effect.
One that people should be made aware of before they start taking this stuff.

that's why i decided against HRT, even though it would be nice to "pass" more than I am now.

a lot of these ""trans"" people these days have no idea what they are getting into with hormones and even SRS. They are not magical bandaids, they are torture and work

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

Liar.

This is being pushed in schools, in books, in media, social media.

Who actually walks into the doctor's, psychologist's and endocrinologist's offices for help?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

Liar.

This is being pushed in schools, in books, in media, social media.

Who actually walks into the doctor's, psychologist's and endocrinologist's offices for help?

Only because people LIKE YOU tell them they need it.

Similar to prolonged anabolic steroid use.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

Liar.

This is being pushed in schools, in books, in media, social media.

Who actually walks into the doctor's, psychologist's and endocrinologist's offices for help?

Only because people LIKE YOU tell them they need it.

Their bodies, their choices.

You just wonder if the money hungry big Pharma tell the transperson about the side effects of taking said hormones. a reply to: quintessentone

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

Liar.

This is being pushed in schools, in books, in media, social media.

Who actually walks into the doctor's, psychologist's and endocrinologist's offices for help?

Only because people LIKE YOU tell them they need it.

Their bodies, their choices.

Yeah, you just want to control how and what they think.

a reply to: TheToastmanCometh

Serious, honest question.

Is "passing" for the individuals acceptance or for societies?

originally posted by: Cloudbuster
You just wonder if the money hungry big Pharma tell the transperson about the side effects of taking said hormones. a reply to: quintessentone

That would be their doctor's responsibility, it's called monitoring your patient.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

So trans activists are literally killing people they wanted to "help".

Noice.

The transgender people and their families are the ones pushing for the gender affirming therapy. Their bodies, their choice.

Bull#.

This is being pushed by trans activists.

Nope, by the kids and their parents.

Liar.

This is being pushed in schools, in books, in media, social media.

Who actually walks into the doctor's, psychologist's and endocrinologist's offices for help?

Only because people LIKE YOU tell them they need it.

Their bodies, their choices.

Yeah, you just want to control how and what they think.

Rather, I think we all should allow them to control how and what they think and do whatever they and their doctors deem appropriate treatment.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Only hart disease? wait for the thinning of bone, cancer, blood clot, low libido or no libido at all, yep pharma is salivating with the hoarders of youth experiencing all this at a very early age, by the time they become adults they will be nothing but a generation of handicaps.

Everything chemical and not natural have consequences and they are most of the time irreversible. Is a black market been run by trans facilitators giving away these harmful hormones like candy.

The new war on drugs.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Specially idiot parents allowing their underage children to take this harmful chemical drugs, yep chemical drugs.

As expected, a one-off study amplified by right-wing media’s anti-trans agenda and another ATS opportunity for folks to express their triggered outrage and disgust with anything having to do with trans issues. Yay!

The actual study is behind a paywall but there a few things we can gather from the abstract.

The hazard ratio (HR) for any CVD (cardiovascular diagnosis) was significantly higher in transgenders vs controls of same and other birth sex, with highest adjusted HR in transgenders AFAB vs control men:.... Gender-affirming hormone treatment (GAHT) explained part of elevated risk of CVD in transgenders AFAB, whereas GAHT did not contribute to the elevated risk of CVD in transgenders AMAB.

Definitions:
AFAB – born female
AMAB – born male

Well duh! Males generally have higher rates of cardiovascular issues so natal females taking testosterone should expect the same possibility.

Without having access to the actual paper there are simply too many unknowns about the criteria and methodology used to determine the accuracy and validity of this paper and with the trans community, socioeconomic factors affecting lifestyle can never be discounted.

And for the record, the aim of physicians and endocrinologists providing cross-sex hormone therapy for transition is to match the hormone levels of the transitioner’s target sex with most requiring blood work every 6 to 12 months to insure levels aren’t in excess of natal levels.

Out of curiosity how many here are on blood thinners, statins or blood pressure medication and did you take HRT to transition? Heart disease and related cardiovascular issues are the worldwide number one cause of death.

a reply to: AdifferentOpinion

There comes the trans science, now everything is counterattack with their own science.

Sorry my friend but when I was on menopause, I was offered HRT and very clear was told the horrible side effects of it, no sugar coating.

I refuse, giving hormones to young people that do not need it, is going to cause much more danger that you can imagine, and the side effects only takes a few years to see.

And not the studies are not from one "anti tran group" is various studies done because the hormones and chemical castration drugs, now called "puberty blockers" has been around for a long time.

Lord have mercy

The body is created to utilize and properly metabolize things, hormones that are not in natural proportion for that person might cause all kinds of issues. The brain and some organs do develop differently in the sexes, women often eat differently than men and vice versa. You cannot start changing things like this way after they have been developed and not have some side effects. I can see the heart and circulatory system being one of those organ systems that might be a problem with hormone therapy. Even giving a guy extra testosterone can cause issues for a lot of men.