Israeli Teenager Who SURVIVED Hamas Attack DEMANDS Israel STOP Bombing Gaza!

[post]originally posted by: SprocketUK[/post]
you are dead wrong in this like all the other antisemites

You are erroneously saying that those who
do not support Apartheid, Racism,
Segregation to be labeled 'antisemite'
Now that is a oxymoron.
We are not the Racists, look in a mirror.
Apparently your politicians and influencers are
teaching you that anyone who isn't a jew,
or supports such, is a 'Amelike' an enemy.
You are only seeing what your government is projecting.
Be careful for what you wish for.
People do not like to be labeled, nor is it your job
to judge, it is not your job to dictate or lead, that job is for G-d.
www.chabad.org...
"have no pity on him; slay both man and woman, infant and
suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.” REALLY ???
That's not normal and NOT civilized.

a reply to: gortex

She can go hang out with Greta and both of them can save the world.I am sure Berkley is calling her and offering a free ride based on her analysis of the world.

originally posted by: ToneDeaf

originally posted by:SprocketUK[/post]
you are dead wrong in this like all the other antisemites

You are erroneously saying that those who
do not support Apartheid, Racism,
Segregation to be labeled 'antisemite'
Now that is a oxymoron.
We are not the Racists, look in a mirror.
Apparently your politicians and influencers are
teaching you that anyone who isn't a jew,
or supports such, is a 'Amelike' an enemy.
You are only seeing what your government is projecting.
Be careful for what you wish for.
People do not like to be labeled, nor is it your job
to judge, it is not your job to dictate or lead, that job is for G-d.
www.chabad.org...
"have no pity on him; slay both man and woman, infant and
suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.” REALLY ???
That's not normal and NOT civilized.

No, I am saying that people who are alleging that Israelis are somehow to blame for this attack on them are, its right there in the IHRA definition of anti semitism.

a reply to: gortex

And ...

Israeli Survivor Yasmin Porat Reveals That Israeli Forces Shot Their Own Civilians

a reply to: FlyersFan

I agree. Wonder if she watches Saturday morning cartoons about killing Jews like the Palestinians kids do? Think they'd refrain from raping her in front of her family before killing her because she's believes in peace? She is what we call a usefully idiot.

originally posted by: gortex[/post]

who has been through hell
than a whole government of fat cats creating hell ,
I salute her , her bravery and vision.

Thanks for the links you provided gortex.
It's not the only testimony that is out there,
Thousands and thousands of israeli and jews are
saying the same.
From someone who was actually there :
www.youtube.com...


Transcript :
Yasmin Porat: For an hour they were banging about 10 terrorists on the reinforced safe room. There were screams in Arabic and it was a very tense hour. And we felt great fear that’s indescribable. After an hour they managed to break in and they removed the four of us to a nearby house where there were already eight other additional hostages. We joined those eight and we were about 12 hostages with 40 terrorists that were guarding us. I’m keeping the story short.

Aryeh Golan: Did they abuse you?

Yasmin Porat: They did not abuse us. They treated us very humanely, meaning …

Aryeh Golan: Humanely? Really?

Yasmin Porat: Yes, by that I mean they guard us. They give us something to drink here and there. When they see we are nervous, they calm us down. It was very frightening but no one treated us violently. Luckily nothing happened to me like what I heard in the media.
Aryeh Golan: Horrible, horrific things occurred.

Yasmin Porat: True. But after two hours briefly at first there was no [Israeli] security force with us. We were the ones who called the police together with the abductors because the abductors wanted the police to arrive. Because their objective was to kidnap us to Gaza.

[SKIP OR CUT IN AUDIO]

Yasmin Porat: Meanwhile one of the terrorists decides to surrender, the terrorist I made a connection with. Over the course of those two hours I connected with some of the abductors, those that guarded the hostages.

Aryeh Golan: Yes

Yasmin Porat: And he decides to use me as a human shield. He decides to surrender. I am not aware of it in those moments its in retrospect. He starts to disrobe, he takes he calls to me and he starts to leave the house with me, under fire. At that time I yelled to the YAMAM [Israeli commandos] when we were already when they can hear me, to stop firing.

Aryeh Golan: Yes

Yasmin Porat: And then they hear me and stop firing. I see on the lawn, in the garden of the people from the kibbutz. There are five or six hostages lying on the ground outside, just like sheep to the slaughter, between the shooting of our [fighters] and the terrorists.

Aryeh Golan: The terrorists shot them?

Yasmin Porat: No, they were killed by the crossfire. Understand there was very, very heavy crossfire.

Aryeh Golan: So our forces may have shot them?

Yasmin Porat: Undoubtedly.

Aryeh Golan: When they tried to eliminate the abductors, Hamas?

Yasmin Porat: They eliminated everyone, including the hostages. Because there was very, very heavy crossfire. I was freed at approximately 5:30. The fighting apparently ended at 8:30. After insane crossfire, two tank shells were shot into the house. Its a small kibbutz house, nothing big. You saw it on the news.

Aryeh Golan: Yes

Yasmin Porat: Not a large place. And at that moment everyone was killed. There was quiet, except for one person limping, Hadas [Dagan], in the garden.

Aryeh Golan: How were they all killed?

Yasmin Porat: From the crossfire.

Aryeh Golan: Crossfire, so it could also be from our forces?

Yasmin Porat: Undoubtedly.

Aryeh Golan: Really?

Yasmin Porat: That’s what I believe.

Aryeh Golan: Oy it sounds so bad.

Yasmin Porat: Yes. And everyone died.

Aryeh Golan: And you, thanks to that terrorist who decided to give himself up …

Yasmin Porat: Exactly.

Aryeh Golan: And you survived and all the rest were killed there.

Yasmin Porat: Except for one other woman who survived, they found her later [trails off]. The person who dealt with the event checked her or something. They found her when she lifted her head, amongst all the bodies. And then, simply …

Aryeh Golan: And your partner, who was with you?

Yasmin Porat: Killed.

Aryeh Golan: He was killed too?

Yasmin Porat: Yes. Everyone was killed there. Just horrible.

Aryeh Golan: Have you returned to Kabri?

Yasmin Porat: I returned to Kabri and then the chaos started there.

Aryeh Golan: In the north?

Yasmin Porat: Yes. So now I’m a guest. I’m being hosted in a lovely way in Kibbutz Ein Harod. And I’m here for now.

Aryeh Golan: You’re in the [Jezreel] Valley now. Alright, Yasmin, you’ve undergone a horrific experience.

Yasmin Porat: True.


Scottish Palestinian In Gaza Video, Pleads for people to sensible
twitter.com...

As for the propaganda of babies being beheaded,
those originated on the 10th, traced to U.K.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
IHRA definition of anti semitism.

IHRA- "Holding jews collectively responsible
for actions of the state of Israel"

No one has on this thread.
Just the SAME,
holding Palestinians collectively responsible is
NOT acceptable.
Just as Apartheid or Segregation is NOT acceptable.
Labeling people 'antisemitic' for
denouncing thus is NOT acceptable.

fyi Be careful for what you wish for, when labeling.
Not every one is a so called 'Amelik' for not
agreeing with judiasm or israel.
Calling people 'antisemite' for not agreeing
however IS COLLECTIVE-LABELING,
. . . something that racists would do.

btw Projecting something as you did tends to become your reality.,
just as israel has a tenancy in devolving itself by projecting.


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After telling Gazans to leave the North and head South Israel are now bombing the South , 49 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli airstrikes in Khan Younis and Rafah overnight.

'Heavy airstrikes' in southern Gaza
Israeli airstrikes are hitting southern Gaza, AP reports, citing Palestinians in the area.

The strikes are reportedly targeting areas where Palestinians were ordered to seek refuge.

The Israeli military told civilians in Gaza to evacuate the north of the territory ahead of a potential ground offensive, prompting a mass exodus from Gaza City.
news.sky.com...

originally posted by: ToneDeaf

originally posted by: gortex[/post]

who has been through hell
than a whole government of fat cats creating hell ,
I salute her , her bravery and vision.

Thanks for the links you provided gortex.
It's not the only testimony that is out there,
Thousands and thousands of israeli and jews are
saying the same.
From someone who was actually there :
www.youtube.com...

Transcript :
Yasmin Porat: For an hour they were banging about 10 terrorists on the reinforced safe room. There were screams in Arabic and it was a very tense hour. And we felt great fear that’s indescribable. After an hour they managed to break in and they removed the four of us to a nearby house where there were already eight other additional hostages. We joined those eight and we were about 12 hostages with 40 terrorists that were guarding us. I’m keeping the story short.

Aryeh Golan: Did they abuse you?

Yasmin Porat: They did not abuse us. They treated us very humanely, meaning …

Aryeh Golan: Humanely? Really?

Yasmin Porat: Yes, by that I mean they guard us. They give us something to drink here and there. When they see we are nervous, they calm us down. It was very frightening but no one treated us violently. Luckily nothing happened to me like what I heard in the media.
Aryeh Golan: Horrible, horrific things occurred.

Yasmin Porat: True. But after two hours briefly at first there was no [Israeli] security force with us. We were the ones who called the police together with the abductors because the abductors wanted the police to arrive. Because their objective was to kidnap us to Gaza.

[SKIP OR CUT IN AUDIO]

Yasmin Porat: Meanwhile one of the terrorists decides to surrender, the terrorist I made a connection with. Over the course of those two hours I connected with some of the abductors, those that guarded the hostages.

Aryeh Golan: Yes

Yasmin Porat: And he decides to use me as a human shield. He decides to surrender. I am not aware of it in those moments its in retrospect. He starts to disrobe, he takes he calls to me and he starts to leave the house with me, under fire. At that time I yelled to the YAMAM [Israeli commandos] when we were already when they can hear me, to stop firing.

Aryeh Golan: Yes

Yasmin Porat: And then they hear me and stop firing. I see on the lawn, in the garden of the people from the kibbutz. There are five or six hostages lying on the ground outside, just like sheep to the slaughter, between the shooting of our [fighters] and the terrorists.

Aryeh Golan: The terrorists shot them?

Yasmin Porat: No, they were killed by the crossfire. Understand there was very, very heavy crossfire.

Aryeh Golan: So our forces may have shot them?

Yasmin Porat: Undoubtedly.

Aryeh Golan: When they tried to eliminate the abductors, Hamas?

Yasmin Porat: They eliminated everyone, including the hostages. Because there was very, very heavy crossfire. I was freed at approximately 5:30. The fighting apparently ended at 8:30. After insane crossfire, two tank shells were shot into the house. Its a small kibbutz house, nothing big. You saw it on the news.

Aryeh Golan: Yes

Yasmin Porat: Not a large place. And at that moment everyone was killed. There was quiet, except for one person limping, Hadas [Dagan], in the garden.

Aryeh Golan: How were they all killed?

Yasmin Porat: From the crossfire.

Aryeh Golan: Crossfire, so it could also be from our forces?

Yasmin Porat: Undoubtedly.

Aryeh Golan: Really?

Yasmin Porat: That’s what I believe.

Aryeh Golan: Oy it sounds so bad.

Yasmin Porat: Yes. And everyone died.

Aryeh Golan: And you, thanks to that terrorist who decided to give himself up …

Yasmin Porat: Exactly.

Aryeh Golan: And you survived and all the rest were killed there.

Yasmin Porat: Except for one other woman who survived, they found her later [trails off]. The person who dealt with the event checked her or something. They found her when she lifted her head, amongst all the bodies. And then, simply …

Aryeh Golan: And your partner, who was with you?

Yasmin Porat: Killed.

Aryeh Golan: He was killed too?

Yasmin Porat: Yes. Everyone was killed there. Just horrible.

Aryeh Golan: Have you returned to Kabri?

Yasmin Porat: I returned to Kabri and then the chaos started there.

Aryeh Golan: In the north?

Yasmin Porat: Yes. So now I’m a guest. I’m being hosted in a lovely way in Kibbutz Ein Harod. And I’m here for now.

Aryeh Golan: You’re in the [Jezreel] Valley now. Alright, Yasmin, you’ve undergone a horrific experience.

Yasmin Porat: True.


Scottish Palestinian In Gaza Video, Pleads for people to sensible
twitter.com...

As for the propaganda of babies being beheaded,
those originated on the 10th, traced to U.K.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
IHRA definition of anti semitism.

IHRA- "Holding jews collectively responsible
for actions of the state of Israel"

No one has on this thread.
Just the SAME,
holding Palestinians collectively responsible is
NOT acceptable.
Just as Apartheid or Segregation is NOT acceptable.
Labeling people 'antisemitic' for
denouncing thus is NOT acceptable.

fyi Be careful for what you wish for, when labeling.
Not every one is a so called 'Amelik' for not
agreeing with judiasm or israel.
Calling people 'antisemite' for not agreeing
however IS COLLECTIVE-LABELING,
. . . something that racists would do.

btw Projecting something as you did tends to become your reality.,
just as israel has a tenancy in devolving itself by projecting.


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impressed how she never saw the hostages get shot but knows who did it..

as for the IHRA thing I dont think you can extrapolate that into every Israeli on the planet.

In fact, the only thing I could like about your post is that Ocelot

a reply to: SeaWorthy

how is it easier to look in a babies eyes and chop its head off or how is it easier to hold a woman down a brutally rip her apart, how is it easier to then parade that brutality as a prize worth winning.

as at the end of the day that's the comparison you're making that there is an equivalence between holding a human down, listening to the beg then look in their eyes and still rip them apart or set them on fire is the exact same thing as pulling a trigger.

it sounds to me like a justification to rape and torture women and children.

a reply to: nickyw

how is it easier to look in a babies eyes and chop its head off or how is it easier to hold a woman down a brutally rip her apart, how is it easier to then parade that brutality as a prize worth winning.

Except those claims seem to be based on nothing , those who repeated them are now backtracking.
www.aljazeera.com...

CNN reporter Sara Sidner issued an apology after defending Israel's claims that Hamas beheaded babies

edition.cnn.com...



The White House and Israeli government have rolled back on the claims of beheadings , propaganda is a powerful tool.

a reply to: gortex

are you really down the rabbit hole that is all "Jewish lies"

I'll leave your thread and your its all a "Jewish conspiracy"

a reply to: gortex

Thank you for confirming as you fit the playbook narritave to a T.

I am sure the majority of Palestine people are great. At issue is that they have been under HAMAS control in Gaza since the early 2000's according to the CIA report that you choose to deny that it even exists.

You dont comment on the root cause truth nor do you even care about it. Its not a deny ignorance thing its simply an agenda to radicalize as many as possible for the sole purpose of genocide one race.

Heres the link again

CIA

a reply to: stevieray

I am starting to wonder if her claim is false as she doesnt seem to exhibit the charasteristics with that disability. Just like AOC's degrees from Boston University were actually obtained by AOC.

a reply to: gortex

The White House and Israeli government have rolled back on the claims of beheadings , propaganda is a powerful tool.

So they at least refute and correcct in public initial false reports and tell the truth but HAMAS doesnt on the stuff they did do they.

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled” ·

a reply to: Waterglass

Thank you for confirming as you fit the playbook narritave to a T.

Although at no point in this thread or others have I supported what Hamas did , my support is with the civilians who are caught in the middle and once again paying the price.

I don't see how it is rational to bomb an entire population into oblivion for the actions of a few , children should not be held responsible for the actions of adults yet in Gaza and elsewhere in the Palestinian territories they have born the brunt for decades , it is no surprise that generations grow up to hate their oppressors.

It's all very well pointing a finger at Hamas but a finger should also be pointed at Netanyahu for the continued expansion of settlements on what is Palestinian land , the laws he's passing have turned many in Israel against him leading to protests which is why the young lady in the video calls on Israelis to think about who they vote for.

a reply to: gortex

Gortex what's going on. Post after post of anti Israel information. Looks like it's become a total obsession. Especially at a time when one of our close allies is in pain

The fact is Hamas attacked Israel and murdered heavens knows how many people. Bodies of babies with their throats cut piled up ten a pile. Unbelievable horror committed against innocent Israeli's, indeed against people from the world over.

The girl is of questionable mind. She knows nothing at her age.

Israel has declared war on Hamas and that means neutralising 40,000 terrorists. Probably more if one adds on other groups with similar murderous intent. That means going after them all, whatever that takes.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
Israel has declared war on Hamas and that means neutralising 40,000 terrorists. Probably more if one adds on other groups with similar murderous intent.

I posted this back on page three. Worth repeating when you talk about neutralizing terrorists. There is a lot of support for the Hamas terrorists among the Palestinians.

Free Beacon - 89 Percent of Palestinians Support Terror Attacks on Israel

Nearly 89 percent of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets from the Gaza Strip at Israeli civilians, according to a new poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion (PCPO).

The poll of 1,000 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip found that 88.9 percent of those surveyed supported "the firing of rockets from Gaza at Israel," according to the findings.

a reply to: FlyersFan

For sure they Flyers the group of people (known by some authroity) as 'Palestinian's' are largely committed to Hamas. There is no real difference today. too much blood spilt on both sides. Too much death and destruction. As Israel has turned to the right over the past decades so those known by some as 'Palestinian's' have turned to terrorists. No good can come of any of it and there is only one answer to repeated relentless acts of terror by Hamas and that is Israel's declaration of war. Only when Hamas and Hezbollah are neutralised can true peace by won for the Middle East. Only cutting the head of the snake known (at present) as Iran can bring this peace. All roads lead to Iran.

a reply to: FlyersFan

That's from 2014.

Do you have a more up-to-date link for the same information?