Israel & The Myth of 'Self Defence'

originally posted by: gortex
Posted today an 11 minute video from David Hearst , Jewish editor-in-chief of Middle East Eye as he gives his opinion on the slaughter being perpetrated in the name of "self defence" and the reasons for it.

As of today 583 Palestinian children have been killed by the Israeli military offensive on Gaza , that number will only rise as the West has green lit Israel to do as it pleases and troops move into the territory.

How interesting that we’re still trying to figure out who’s missing, where the bodies are, who and where the hostages are, a whole lotta guesswork, for the Israelis.

But somehow we know that exactly 583 Palestinian children have died. Gaza must have the best census system and detectives in the world.

1 child dead is a huge tragedy. But when you mix in the PR, the marketing, the fraud and farce, it’s a damned disgrace.

The Pals massacre however many “enemy” children they can get their hands on, they massacre their own children by hiding behind them, then they totally disgrace their dead children by turning them into commercials and PSAs.
Whoever supports this trash is sick sick sick.

Other nations have tried to take in Palestinians and almost always stop it or expel the ones they took in.

Yassar arrafat had a chance for everything they claim to want and said no because it involved acknowledging Israel as a state.

Go back to yom Kippur war prior to this and no jew was treated pretty well, then they ran off because the surrounding states said stand with us or die.

Those other states didn't really want them, and after cutting and running why should Israel trust them.

Now in Gaza the people have accepted Hamas rule, bad choices brought us to this point.

a reply to: gortex

This war, every ounce of blood spilled in Gaza is on the hands of Hamas.

originally posted by: combatmaster
a reply to: gortex

This war, every ounce of blood spilled in Gaza is on the hands of Hamas.

Well you just don’t understand mister.

When a “special victim” gets a licence to be one of the world’s premier “downtrodden”, it’s granted forever. No atrocities and crimes can ever lose it for them.

The Pals can kill a million babies, and they will always be the victim.

a reply to: stevieray

it’s a damned disgrace.

It's already a disgrace, all of it.

Including WW2 optics and a bigger terrorist emerging out of another massacre. No need to mince words over dead children like a POS, GTFO with that.

To be fair, Israel has been a f*cking hypocrite and hopefully they really figure out their own identity and stop flip flopping.

As they, along with the Clintons and Biden’s supported Muslim extremists and terrorists elsewhere for awhile now.

It’s only right in Israel’s mind to “go all out” when it only pertains to Israel lol.

Bullsh*t.

In addition, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu mentioned that "Kosovo will be the first country with a Muslim majority to open an embassy in Jerusalem".[20] Israel and Kosovo established formal diplomatic relations on 1 February 2021.[6][7] On 14 March 2021, Kosovo opened its embassy in downtown West Jerusalem, although without a ceremony marking the event due to COVID-19 restrictions in Israel.[25] Kosovo became the first Muslim-majority territory to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.[26]

Kosovo, which belongs to Serbia and has been Serbian for centuries. However, had an influx of Muslim extremist/ terrorists come in after WW2.

With clearly observed ties with Al queda cells there. Shat and demolished Serbian Orthodox monasteries that have been there 1000+years.

Well done Israel. Now go dry your puppy eye tears and shut up and get it done.

But wouldn’t be surprised they don’t and just continue chasing their own tail.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Are we not seeing what was done to the Jews being done to the Palestinians ?

Netanyahu says this is just the beginning , with a green light form the US and the UK he has free reign to do what he wants to do.

P'raps the "Palestinians" shouldn't have walked away from every single peace treaty and negotiation.

THAT would be against the Hamas Charter!

irp.fas.org...

[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the

international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all

contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing

any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the

nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the

movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the

banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: "Allah is

the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.

a reply to: gortex

Ask yourself something Gortex . Do you really believe Israelis are targeting children ? Do you think they are rolling into Gaza and just saying yep target the children .

The Real question you should ask yourself is why are Palestinian Children in the middle of the street during a firefight ? Why are they not in a safe zone or bunked in their homes ?

They are in the street because Hamas put them in the streets knowing that enraged Israeli soldiers would role through shooting anything that they deemed a threat , Meaning Hamas are using the Children as human shields they are putting the Children in the street to confuse the IDF soldiers so that it is near impossible to see the real enemy . your a smart guy how do you not understand this ?

Say I went out and shot some innocent people then ran back home , the Police are coming for me and I know it so I put a bunch of kittens in the living room for them to trip over as they come through the front door .

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

The Real question you should ask yourself is why are Palestinian Children in the middle of the street during a firefight ? Why are they not in a safe zone or bunked in their homes ?

I doubt they're in the middle of the street during a firefight , they likely are bunkered in their homes.

a reply to: gortex

I doubt they're in the middle of the street during a firefight , they likely are bunkered in their homes.

Yes the IDF have an Air-force yes they drop bombs yes there is collateral Damage and it's terrible but don't try and make it seem like the IDF are targeting children .

To wage a war with zero collateral damage is a dream but we live in the real world where a bunch of Cowards in the form of Hamas place children in the danger zones on purpose. Hamas knows they cant take the IDF in a straight fight so they use what they have at their disposal which is TERROR and CIVILIANS .

Show dead Palestinians on CNN and Hamas has 100 more young fanatics.

An act is self defense when it prevents violence and there is no alternative.

So how exactly is keeping food and water from a million children self defense?

I would understand sending in US troops to patrol the boarder, money for a taller wall, targeted bombings, things like that.

The leaders are probably out the country by now. And as you said, they don't care about their people.
Hamas knew the attack would bring war - they wanted war - they are probably happy there is war.

Is the plan to kill everyone? There are still Muslim countries surrounding Iseral. Are they going to kill all those people too?
What about Muslims in the US - are they fair game too?

Is the plan to unleash enough torture, so children will grow up afraid and be compliant? Read your history and psychology - it doesn't work like that.

So tell me exactly how is this going to bring peace?

originally posted by: Daughter2
An act is self defense when it prevents violence and there is no alternative.

So how exactly is keeping food and water from a million children self defense?

I would understand sending in US troops to patrol the boarder, money for a taller wall, targeted bombings, things like that.

The leaders are probably out the country by now. And as you said, they don't care about their people.
Hamas knew the attack would bring war - they wanted war - they are probably happy there is war.

Is the plan to kill everyone? There are still Muslim countries surrounding Iseral. Are they going to kill all those people too?
What about Muslims in the US - are they fair game too?

Is the plan to unleash enough torture, so children will grow up afraid and be compliant? Read your history and psychology - it doesn't work like that.

So tell me exactly how is this going to bring peace?

Israel is a country run by a hypocrite and only cry for attention when only something tragic is done near their b*tthole.

Not to worry, Benjamin Netanyahu along with the Clintons and Biden’s will continue supporting safe havens and give terrorist run “states” a blind eye elsewhere.

And even rip other parts from other countries (like Serbia’s Kosovo) and hand them their own state.

Because…. money. Greed. And chase their own tails when there’s nothing currently going around.

Until that changes, expect Rinse and Repeat.

Palestine is an open air prison.

Every now and again they riot as well as they should, imo. EVERYDAY.

The fact that Israel CAN cut/control their life lines makes Israel the warden of this prison, hence the natural distain and hatred for your oppressors.

The "cell extraction teams" are waiting on the border to be given the go ahead for a national "shakedown".

The overall endgame is pushing Palestine into the sea. This ground invasion will definitely get Israel closer to that goal.
#ChangeMyMind

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: stevieray

it’s a damned disgrace.

It's already a disgrace, all of it.

Including WW2 optics and a bigger terrorist emerging out of another massacre. No need to mince words over dead children like a POS, GTFO with that.

None of this makes any sense, or has any meaning or logic in it. Maybe in your head, but not in anyone else’s. Can you really say something about something?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Are we not seeing what was done to the Jews being done to the Palestinians ?

Netanyahu says this is just the beginning , with a green light form the US and the UK he has free reign to do what he wants to do.

Word to the wise : when someone is homeless and given a place to live , one would expect the person to be grateful rather than filled with hate and attempting to take the rest of the home .

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Palestine is an open air prison.

Every now and again they riot as well as they should, imo. EVERYDAY.

The fact that Israel CAN cut/control their life lines makes Israel the warden of this prison, hence the natural distain and hatred for your oppressors.

The "cell extraction teams" are waiting on the border to be given the go ahead for a national "shakedown".

The overall endgame is pushing Palestine into the sea. This ground invasion will definitely get Israel closer to that goal.
#ChangeMyMind

More like an open air insane asylum, for the sickest fks in the world.

What a shame that the sorry bastards who run it, force the rest of the people to live among them.

Notice that Israel actually tells the few decent people there, that they should get away before the fighting starts. Of course you ignore this.

The pals sneak attack for maximum deaths of good people. Of course you root for this.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Are we not seeing what was done to the Jews being done to the Palestinians ?

Netanyahu says this is just the beginning , with a green light form the US and the UK he has free reign to do what he wants to do.

Word to the wise : when someone is homeless and given a place to live , one would expect the person to be grateful rather than filled with hate and attempting to take the rest of the home .

These old adages don’t apply to these people anymore.
They believe just the opposite of the decent, rational philosophy.

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Palestine is an open air prison.

Every now and again they riot as well as they should, imo. EVERYDAY.

The fact that Israel CAN cut/control their life lines makes Israel the warden of this prison, hence the natural distain and hatred for your oppressors.

The "cell extraction teams" are waiting on the border to be given the go ahead for a national "shakedown".

The overall endgame is pushing Palestine into the sea. This ground invasion will definitely get Israel closer to that goal.
#ChangeMyMind

If I allowed a homeless person into my home, I would expect them to behave and not try to take the home over.
If they do , they would be evicted.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Are we not seeing what was done to the Jews being done to the Palestinians ?

Netanyahu says this is just the beginning , with a green light form the US and the UK he has free reign to do what he wants to do.

Word to the wise : when someone is homeless and given a place to live , one would expect the person to be grateful rather than filled with hate and attempting to take the rest of the home .

These old adages don’t apply to these people anymore.
They believe just the opposite of the decent, rational philosophy.

Yep , the Palestinian M.O. has been to take over the country that invited them in ever since they allowed the radicals to rule.
It was not always that way.