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GOP’s Scalise ends his bid to become House speaker

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posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:15 PM
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Republican Steve Scalise ended his bid to become House speaker late Thursday after hardline holdouts refused to back the party’s nominee, throwing the GOP majority into deeper chaos with the chamber unable to function.

Scalise told GOP colleagues at a closed-door evening meeting of his decision and pointedly declined to announce backing for anyone else, including his chief rival, Rep. Jim Jordan, the far-right Judiciary Committee chairman backed by Donald Trump who had already told colleagues he no longer would seek the job.

Next steps are uncertain as the House is essentially closed while the Republican majority tries to elect a speaker after ousting Kevin McCarthy from the job.

This happened even after Jim Jordan announced he would no longer run for the position and he endorsed Steve Scalise. The hard-right refused to accept that endorsement and kept voting for Jim Jordan.


Jordan had given his most vocal endorsement yet to Scalise and announced he did not plan to continue running for the leadership position.

“We need to come together and support Steve,” Jordan, R-Ohio, told reporters before the midday closed session.

But it was not enough to sway the holdouts.

This is pretty frustrating. These hard liners seem intent on just shutting everything down and not allowing America to function. We are now again only weeks from a government shutdown, after McCarthy managed to push through a temporary 45 day extension resolution, but that's not a lot of time and two weeks have already been lost.

If the House has no speaker and is essentially a non-functioning part of the government, who steps up to keep things going?



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:25 PM
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If the House has no speaker and is essentially a non-functioning part of the government, who steps up to keep things going?



They'll figure something out just in time. Can't have folks see how useless they really are.

Hell, might even be a good idea if they have to shut down. Give the average American a break from the constant screwing we're getting.



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: DAVID64

I'd suggest nominating an independent for the speaker and have both the dems and the pubs coalesce around that person. However, unlike the Senate, the House doesn't have a single independent in the ranks.

The next best thing is to find the most moderate, most middle of the road Republican that is palatable to both sides and go with that.

That person can first focus on getting # in order and when everything is back to where it needs to be then take up new bills. Only the bills that have bipartisan support, and go one bill that the right prefers, then one the left wants. And back and forth. Start with the bills that have the highest support from both sides and can go through quickly.



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Got anyone in mind......?



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Has Donald Trump been completely ruled out?



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany
a reply to: DAVID64

I'd suggest nominating an independent for the speaker and have both the dems and the pubs coalesce around that person. However, unlike the Senate, the House doesn't have a single independent in the ranks.

The next best thing is to find the most moderate, most middle of the road Republican that is palatable to both sides and go with that.

That person can first focus on getting # in order and when everything is back to where it needs to be then take up new bills. Only the bills that have bipartisan support, and go one bill that the right prefers, then one the left wants. And back and forth. Start with the bills that have the highest support from both sides and can go through quickly.


Your solution is rational and actually probably what most of the country would want.

If it happens at all, it won't happen until all other options are exhausted.



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: 1947boomer

Have anyone in mind......?



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 09:58 PM
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Seems the right has their own squad like faction. There is no place for far anything in Congress. At the same time, I understand that some in the Republican party are ired by the far left wing of the Democrats. But they need to negotiate with the others in the Republican party.
edit on 12-10-2023 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

The best bet would be someone from a district that voted for Biden. That person would have to walk a tightrope between keeping their Party happy and their constituency happy. Meaning any legislation that reaches the floor will have bipartisan support.

I just don't know if there's anyone from those districts that has the seniority to act as Speaker.

Outside of that, and call me crazy, give it to Jeffries. With a GOP majority, it will once again mean any legislation brought to the floor will be bipartisan. It also gives the GOP an out to blame the Dems of nothing gets accomplished in the next year.



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mahogany

Has Donald Trump been completely ruled out?


Haven’t you heard? He’s been voted in as speaker!

Dude(tte) keep up with the goss hoss!



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: Threadbare

So you want a puppet your side can control....




Outside of that, and call me crazy, give it to Jeffries.


Or one of your own sides members who doesn't have control of the house.


Exactly my point in regard to all these posts......



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 11:35 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

I'm glad Steve Scalise wisely chose to withdraw. Contrary to what Joe Biden claimed in August, he has not cured Cancer. Congressman Scalise is undergoing Cancer treatment.

He may not be mentally and physically able to handle the immense stress of being House Speaker, when the U.S. President is a mean Democrat who doesn't have all his marbles, and Democrats in general hate you as much as you hate them.



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 11:44 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mahogany

Has Donald Trump been completely ruled out?


Ever Since Steve Scalise was "chosen" last night, I've been plastering TruthSocial.com and Gettr.com with the names of 3 people whom I believe would be better than Scalise or Jordan.

1. Marjorie Taylor-Greene
2. Matt Gaetz
3. Donald Trump

If none of those three can get enough Republican votes, put McCarthy back in.



posted on Oct, 12 2023 @ 11:58 PM
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I'm confused or have I checked out without giving myself notice? Either way, I thought the constitutionalists, aka "the hard right" were in favor of Scalise and critical of Jordan who opposed McCarthy's outing and was in favor of MORE funding for Ukraine? I thought one of the major beefs was spending? Jordan is okay with spending more on uniparty projects so why endorse him instead of Scalise?🤷🏻

Watch... Jordan will slip into the hole, er...role, the swamp needs and the show WILL go on. I like Jordan's tenacious exuberance during these investigations, but if he sides with neocons in support of their pet project - Ukraine,(soon to be Israel) how can you be sure he will see those investigations through?

Nothing is certain, I get it. I'm just tired of people not playing their fkn roles and upholding their oaths. It's going to get to the point where folks are going to thumb their nose at everything because it won't matter in the slightest. Free for all! That's right, the U.S.A. is finished. This is now the F.F.A. - Free For All

USA is so utterly f'd.
edit on 10/13/2023 by EternalShadow because: eta



posted on Oct, 13 2023 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mahogany

Has Donald Trump been completely ruled out?


Ever Since Steve Scalise was "chosen" last night, I've been plastering TruthSocial.com and Gettr.com with the names of 3 people whom I believe would be better than Scalise or Jordan.

1. Marjorie Taylor-Greene
2. Matt Gaetz
3. Donald Trump

If none of those three can get enough Republican votes, put McCarthy back in.


I agree.

Just worried about the composure and decorum under Green or Trump for obvious reasons. Lol.... mostly Green though... lol



posted on Oct, 13 2023 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: Mahogany



you could always use a Canadian goose to carry whatever on a battle field and they are not expansive.



posted on Oct, 13 2023 @ 01:03 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Mahogany

Has Donald Trump been completely ruled out?


Ever Since Steve Scalise was "chosen" last night, I've been plastering TruthSocial.com and Gettr.com with the names of 3 people whom I believe would be better than Scalise or Jordan.

1. Marjorie Taylor-Greene
2. Matt Gaetz
3. Donald Trump

If none of those three can get enough Republican votes, put McCarthy back in.


Ewww yuck! Under NO circumstance should that POS ever have control of anything again! He took some sort of bribe from the left, and it couldn’t have been much, and yet was all it took for him to renege on the promise he made regarding budget, agenda, etc. How can we POSSIBLY allow that guy who is easy to buy off to ever do any real work again!? He’s exactly the kind of guy who when trump won the election, would be one of the first to, out of the blu, suddenly the day after he spent hours showing CNN and MSNBC how impossible what they claimed was, and start just saying Biden won and yup, he won because he is thee most popular man in the history of the US! We don’t want that scum!



posted on Oct, 13 2023 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: Mahogany


If the House has no speaker and is essentially a non-functioning part of the government, who steps up to keep things going?

The house does have a speaker. His name is Patrick McHenry, and iirc, he has all the authority of an elected house speaker until a permanent speaker has been duly elected. The house is NOT "non-functioning" because they lack a speaker.



posted on Oct, 13 2023 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Mahogany


If the House has no speaker and is essentially a non-functioning part of the government, who steps up to keep things going?

The house does have a speaker. His name is Patrick McHenry, and iirc, he has all the authority of an elected house speaker until a permanent speaker has been duly elected. The house is NOT "non-functioning" because they lack a speaker.


Best answer yet! The truth.

However, isn't this Above Top Secret?
Where are all the conspiracy theories of Why Not see this happen? We all know our country is not run by a democracy anymore. Corporations run things. Is it in their interests to see the shutdown? IF NOT, then let them solve this. I'm no far-right voter but I can see why Gaetz and friends are pissed. They know that the little voice they have, they're using it to muck up a system that doesn't serve everyday Americans. This could be the beginning of something terrible that will spark something better down the line.
My $.02



posted on Oct, 13 2023 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Mahogany


If the House has no speaker and is essentially a non-functioning part of the government, who steps up to keep things going?

The house does have a speaker. His name is Patrick McHenry, and iirc, he has all the authority of an elected house speaker until a permanent speaker has been duly elected. The house is NOT "non-functioning" because they lack a speaker.


Upon their return on October 17th, the HOUSE will only be in session for 28 days until the end of the year. Only a small fraction of America thinks the U.S. House should be a full-time body. Even members don't think they're that important, which is why they schedule over 130 days off every year.







 
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