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Donald Trump Followers Targeted by FBI as 2024 Election Nears

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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 08:55 PM
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a reply to: drongosrevenge

Your spelling achievements are the true threat to our republic.



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: drongosrevenge

Your spelling achievements are the true threat to our republic.


I was so ready to pounce.


But you succeeded.


...this time.



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Hypothetical:

Show of hands of everyone that would take action should Trump be convicted of being indirectly responsible for Jan 6th somehow, and the 14th Amendment is invoked? (You don't have to answer)

What if it's post primary. Post nomination. Like August, he gets convicted and removed from contention constitutionally.

In that scenario, gotta say, perhaps having a tab going on Trumps most vocal and angered supporters could be useful.

I think they are playing it forward. They are expecting Trump to be removed from contention, and the anger surrounding that to turn violent. Way beyond the ovine capital stampede. True seditious anger.

In a worst case scenario it may cause a revolution mindset.

They might want to keep tabs on the ones most convinced of corruption they act against a government they officially no longer recognize.

That's my assumption anyway.

Define catch 22.
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

I think many Americans know are beginning to realize what your post is all about.



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: Degradation33




Show of hands of everyone that will take action should Trump be convicted of being responsible for inciting Jan 6th and the 14th Amendment in invoked? (You don't have to answer)


You may have an argument if insurrection was among the many charges levied at Trump. Yet to date, there simply isn't one.

Question to you.

All things being equal (as they are supposed to be) how come the same tactics and public notices weren't available for HRC or Sanders supporters?


I know you're trying to think your way through this but simply swap candidates in the place of Trump and ask if it makes any sense.



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Double standard.

You guys are pissed off rednecks with guns and God on your side. They're a bunch of whiny hippie liberals that angrily protest when their candidates lose, but withhold most violence for crocodile race inequality issues.
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: Degradation33

Well, the left doesn't believe in a God any many don't support the 2nd amendment.

Can't have it both ways


Even mathematically speaking, the left wing violence of many singular events far outshines J6, let alone taking it all in as a whole.


Even if you swapped in any other candidate, it would look very tyrannical, and maybe some centrist and leftys are seeing it that way, they simply aren't saying so here.



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:42 PM
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They know who registered as Republican, they know who and what you voted for, and it would be easy to have AI cross-check this against your social media, find out if you were following Trump on FB, even Parler or Truth Social. Then there are your spending habits, like buying a M.A.G.A. hat, maybe you bought a Confederate flag or a Gadsden flag, or maybe you purchased an American flag, Hummmmmm? Said with a raised eyebrow.

You have to wave a big red flag to really get their attention. Perhaps a red flag with five yellow stars or with a sickle crossing a hammer. Maybe a red flag with a white circle and a black Swastika? Nah, they don't care about those red flags.
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:53 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

No, not with any consistency or integrity, but that doesn't matter anymore.

Could also be a tail wagging a dog.

Maybe the "whistleblower" isn't at all, just doing their job and setting up what they will watch: the reaction to the whistleblower. Maybe they'll use the NSA's fusion centers to flag keywords and actions associated with phrases like "They're evil and will have to get through me to take our country," And then they post a picture of guns.

That's what I think they're looking for. People mad enough to do that.
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Degradation33

"They're evil and will have to get through me to take our country" Plus a gun.



If that is the standard, can you with 100% certainty claim that its only Trump supporters who (would) do this?



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

No. Can give you a range of likelihood as the party most likely to make that post.

Democrat - 5%
Independent- 20%
Republican- 75%

It's a world of freaking no objectivity and stereotypes. Even the feds that will be coming through peoples posts.

This is the second time since WWII culture has turned against Republicans. Last time it was baby boomer muddy Marxist Hippies and it died by 1973.
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 10:12 PM
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Ok, so by your example then, the FBI is falsely targeting 25% of American citizens as "domestic violent extremists."


Neverminding the obvious Constitutional violations and tyrannical intentions, does this make any sense to you?



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 10:45 PM
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Sure why not. If it makes your argument for you.

Just popping in to say I think they are cataloging those most likely to be "pissed off rednecks" over this. And hardcore MAGA are notorious for being "angry rednecks".

Not really giving a sh,*t about tact in this thread's answers, because I personally find this persecution trip everyone's on humorous. Even if it's totally legit.

They are OBVIOUSLY putting MAGA under the crosshairs. And when I try to feel empathy for a person that may be persecuted I draw on my well of anger towards evangelical christianity, his strongest support group, and can't care.

And that's entirely my own sanctimonious bias justifying it.

I think the topics pissing off MAGA most is bullsh*t designed to get them marching with torches. I think they are lies, deceptions, and falsehoods, so I really don't care. If their belief leads them to believing something that targets them that's what they get.

Thats because my bias says, Hardcore MAGA (as an identity badge) is mostly made up of batsh*t Christian Nationalists so overly driven by perpetual religious fear they'll latch on to anything that support their convictions. And it's so religious, and Trump is such a quasi-prophet, that together it constitutes a stupid hive mind threat to national security."

I think the left gets to invoke "absolute truth" this time.

Clear enough?
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 10:50 PM
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Just popping in to say I think they are cataloging those most likely to be pissed off rednecks over this. And hardcore MAGA are notorious for being angry.


Being a hardcore, angry maga person is not illegal......cataloguing based on political affiliation and without evidence of a crime is illegal. Make sense?




Not really giving a sh,*t about tact in this thread's answers, because I personally find this persecution trip everyone's on humorous. Even if it's totally legit.


Normally, I'd agree. However this is a law enforcement agency. Once that is not voted for nor can they be removed by the public....




Clear enough?


The only thing that is clear is the hypocrisy when measured against our past interactions

/shrug



posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 11:20 PM
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The only thing that is clear is the hypocrisy when measured against our past interactions.


Sorry to go off the rails of respect. That does come off bitchy. Blame the Wolf Moon.

I have just had it with the victim trip over MAGA being prosecuted.

And this is why.

I saw Trump as a sociopath as he did his victim card rally. I saw a total self involved creep that knew he lost act like a rich kid not accepting no. And then do everything he could to incite his followers. He never told them to break the law, but he might as well have.

I feel his Q followers are bat# and dangerous because they truly believe all the crap they are given. All the adrenaline and soros and celebrites and so on. The cult scares me. They latch on to what Q says, Play the weird esoteric game trying to figure out cryptic clues, and because Trump is portrayed as their prophet I find it all deeply unsettling.

And because the Q stuff is VERY religious and takeover minded it has mild similarities to jihadist insurrection to me. Especially the "rise up you will not stop us" part. It's totally bonkers and paranoid and built on SRA style boogeyman that is never considered to be wrong. It's always truth. Uncontested truth. Even if it's a victim card.

Because the entire Q-MAGA vibe incorporates the absolute truth of religion and holy war it bugs me. And that's why I can see why the FBI would classify some of it as domestic terrorism..

For that to work one has to accept almost EVERTHING IMPORTANT THING TRUMP SAYS is a lie.
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posted on Oct, 4 2023 @ 11:26 PM
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I have just had it with the victim trip over MAGA being prosecuted.


Before going further, did you happen to read the article in the OP?



posted on Oct, 5 2023 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

Yup. I'll reclarify using that.

It's this:


Sociopolitical developments—such as narratives of fraud in the recent general election, the emboldening impact of the violent breach of the U.S. Capitol, conditions related to the COVID-19 pandemic, and conspiracy theories promoting violence—will almost certainly spur some domestic terrorists to try to engage in violence.


Plus this:


domestic violent extremists who cite anti-government or anti-authority motivations for violence or criminal activity not otherwise defined, such as individuals motivated by a desire to commit violence against those with a real or perceived association with a specific political party or faction of a specific political party.


But to several, the first quote isn't a true statement because those are all things that really happened without question. No room for being wrong. The conspiracies are religiously believed. They're being persecuted for the truth by a tyrannical government. It hits more religious than political notes.

But... if the conspiracy narrative actually is BS, the FBI is stuck in a catch 22. They just make it look more real if they do their jobs. Its a feedback loop now. That was brought up and quoted.

Stories like this reinforce the narratives. And if Trump is disqualified from 2024, it's on the point of civil war. Also acknowledged by FBI.

It's Trumps cult of personality that's the threat. He makes people angry and react. And I still agree with the double standard to focus on MAGA surrounding the election.

Just gotta defend the tyrants unfairly calling every Trump voter a potential domestic terrorists. The majority are far from it.

Meanwhile liberals trashed Portland. But it seems BLM isn't considered an ideological precursor to violence. Never put on a list or given that status despite having MORE instances of causing damage to society through lawlessness.

Hell of a country. But it seems the growing government consensus of that country has more place for antifa burning Portland and less place for Trump.

* Even under Trump the agencies all turned on him. Wont be any different next time. He could gut them at the top and still wouldn't have them in his pocket like he would want.

In summary: i feel sworn government employees for pretty much all national law and order agencies are more in agreement than not on Trumps total lack of integrity and character as being unbecoming to represent this nation. He's a rat.

That leads to double standards and GTFO witch hunts.
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posted on Oct, 5 2023 @ 12:19 AM
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a reply to: Degradation33

So if Trump just shuts his mouth this all goes away?



posted on Oct, 5 2023 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: JinMI

As my favorite Hollywood elites put it:




posted on Oct, 5 2023 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
They know who registered as Republican, they know who and what you voted for, and it would be easy to have AI cross-check this against your social media, find out if you were following Trump on FB, even Parler or Truth Social. Then there are your spending habits, like buying a M.A.G.A. hat, maybe you bought a Confederate flag or a Gadsden flag, or maybe you purchased an American flag, Hummmmmm? Said with a raised eyebrow.

You have to wave a big red flag to really get their attention. Perhaps a red flag with five yellow stars or with a sickle crossing a hammer. Maybe a red flag with a white circle and a black Swastika? Nah, they don't care about those red flags.


Easy to get out of that tracking, just buy a rainbow flag and tshirt, some used BDSM props off Ebay, maybe a dog costume too, grab the latest BLM hoodie off their website and a George Floyd tshirt offf redbubble, they won't know what the hell to think 😂




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