Thousands of Ukrainians surrendering

a reply to: anonentity

they are not dumb,..
nobody that went to war ever came back,
neighbors disappearing,
one million severely injured or dead,
cemetarys are full,

and the russians treat them BETTER

a reply to: anonentity

can't say about the numbers, but i think i would think twice before i got my news from a crook that left the country, when investors filed lawsuits over fraud and running a real estate ponzi scheme against him. no matter what he did before, a innocent person ain't gonna run. and pretending not to know that the properties were in the shape they were in is bullsh@@.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

No doubt.


They should have ran for office instead.......

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Spacespider

Oh..now I support the invader......

Guess you dont' get to lecture me on logical and fair.

See, the trouble with trying to blanket information with the "propaganda" label is that it makes the accuser look foolish.

The old colloquium, even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.


Meanwhile, the west is arguing over how many Ukrainians its going to take to play with their new toys.....

So save me your attempts at virtue as well, thanks.

I’ve posted these links from articles written in 2014 and 2017 in a couple of threads but can’t get a response.

When and if I do, I will find more and post them here as well.

People need to snap out of whatever trance they’re in and realize that there was a time before this 2020’s contrived reality bubble.

www.theguardian.com...

In Ukraine, the US is dragging us towards war with Russia

Washington's role in Ukraine is different only in its implications for the rest of us. For the first time since the Reagan years, the US is threatening to take the world to war. With eastern Europe and the Balkans now military outposts of Nato, the last "buffer state" bordering Russia – Ukraine – is being torn apart by fascist forces unleashed by the US and the EU. We in the west are now backing neo-Nazis in a country where Ukrainian Nazis backed Hitler.

www.theguardian.com...

Why deny the Ukrainian Nazi connection?

Now the Russians are more than happy to try to embarrass the Canadian government, which has steadfastly stood behind the Ukrainian government in the ongoing conflict in the region. Suggesting that Canada allows monuments to Nazi collaborators seems to fit that bill.

But in this case the Russian tweets aren’t fake news. They are accurate.

Those who served in the SS Galizien Division were Nazi collaborators.

ottawacitizen.com...

It appears there is more to this than most people want to see.

Funny how some who are adamant that the two party system is a sham jump on the two war party wagon without even thinking for one second that it could ALL be a sham.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

Shooting the messenger because a message displeases you, does not help if the information is correct. The present state of censorship continues to do that. The mere fact that this is happening is distressing in a free society because eventually nothing will be believed and nothing acted on, even if survival requires some action.

I’ve seen surrender videos from both sides.
More from Ukraine than the Russians. I think Ukraine has a better feel for documenting things.


Thing is, if this was really happening, RT pig, Margarita S. and the other propagandists would be all over it.
They aren’t, they are all in angry defensive mode.

a reply to: Connector

Well here is a link to an article from our typically leftist media.

edmontonjournal.com... e

A Canadian Jewish organization is once again calling for the removal of two Edmonton monuments commemorating Ukrainians who fought with Nazi Germany during the Second World War.

If you you are to suggest that because I posted a link to this article that I am an Edmontonian you would be exactly right.

I have seen the monuments first hand.

ETA: if the link won’t work Google the following…

Group resumes decades-old fight to remove statue of Ukrainian Nazi collaborator outside Edmonton cultural centre

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
a reply to: Connector

Well here is a link to an article from our typically leftist media.

edmontonjournal.com... e

A Canadian Jewish organization is once again calling for the removal of two Edmonton monuments commemorating Ukrainians who fought with Nazi Germany during the Second World War.

If you you are to suggest that because I posted a link to this article that I am an Edmontonian you would be exactly right.

I have seen the monuments first hand.

Ha! I'm part Uke too. !00 yrs back.. Manitoba. I'm not sure what that has to do with this thread. PM if you want, maybe we're related?

BTW using language like "typically leftist media" won't get you much engagement.

a reply to: Connector

That was just me engaging this comment by yourself…

The fact, that you linked b OttawaCitizen explains exactly who you are.

I thought you were insinuating that I was Justin Trudeau…

Our media does typically lean left.

No hard feelings, it’s the internet.

I’m sure we’d have a lot of fun over a beer!


BTW any comments or thoughts about the Guardian article?

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
a reply to: Connector

That was just me engaging this comment by yourself…

The fact, that you linked b OttawaCitizen explains exactly who you are.

I thought you were insinuating that I was Justin Trudeau…

Our media does typically lean left.

No hard feelings, it’s the internet.

I’m sure we’d have a lot of fun over a beer!




BTW any comments or thoughts about the Guardian article?

Not yet.

Enjoying a potato / perogeie / pataha pizza here with maple surup. . Amazing!

I wonder why, we seem so far apart .