Thousands of Ukrainians surrendering

It seems that the Russians have been dropping leaflets and giving a frequency called the Volga frequency, telling how to surrender legally and not get shot. They have no commanders are poorly trained and have little medical supplies. If Ukraine is winning it sends are stark reminder to the taxpayers, that this is money down the drain. It starts at thirty min. mark. This will have to escalate soon, and probably before they put Ukrainian women on the front line. It does look like it is over when they draft the women.
One could dismiss this as Russian propaganda, but the fact of using females on the front line tends to suggest that they are running out of men.

I'll ask my Russian friend today if that is true until then I don't believe anything I hear on the internet anymore, unless it's from President Biden.

a reply to: anonentity

Sounds about right...

Russian Black Sea commander shown on video call after Ukraine said he was killed

You know it's almost as if Russia cares more about Ukranian soldiers than Ukraine does...

I know that statement is triggering to some but it would appear this is the reality of this conflict.

originally posted by: musicismagic
I'll ask my Russian friend today if that is true until then I don't believe anything I hear on the internet anymore, unless it's from President Biden.

That was funny .

originally posted by: JAY1980
You know it's almost as if Russia cares more about Ukranian soldiers than Ukraine does...

I know that statement is triggering to some but it would appear this is the reality of this conflict.

Think Russia cares more about Ukraine than the West in total
Russia could destroy every power plant, every water treatment facility, telco target and transport hub, they havnt?
I wouldnt fight for Zelensky, Western stooge

a reply to: Raggedyman

Russia could destroy every power plant, every water treatment facility, telco target and transport hub, they havnt?

That wasn't the plan.
The plan was to go against Ukrainian leadership that were persecuting the Russians that were living and working in the Ukraine in specific areas.

a reply to: anonentity

Ukraine has "no commanders are poorly trained and have little medical supplies" but is still spanking Russia left and right. Up and down. Breaking though multiple flanks, clearing mine fields, taking out navy ships and subs, wiping out officers by the dozens.

Imagine what they'd be doing with some good commanders and better training?

That's pretty embarrassing for Russia and Russophiles.

a reply to: anonentity

100% Pro Russia Propaganda channel

It uses misinformation and manipulates the narrative to spread outright lies.

There are some people in the US who question the support and offer criticism. What redacted does is outright Russian state propaganda the narrative is exactly what Russia spreads internally. It's not real criticism, it's just bull#.

These pro Russia script readers are responsible for more deaths, panic and broken families they would ever know just to get that fat stinky pay under the table no matter the cost.

a reply to: Mahogany

What 3 letter agency do you work for?

a reply to: LittleJake

Just for reference, to date this is their best contribution to this site, measured by flags.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Their integrity sets new bars for low.


To the topic, I find it humorous that people are so quick to jump on the "RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA" tripe without a hint of irony around our own media for the past decade and a half.


DId people suddenly forget about the Project Mockingbird and the Smith-Mundt act?

a reply to: JAY1980

" You know it's almost as if Russia cares more about Ukranian soldiers than Ukraine does..."


Or at Least More than Joe Biden does...........

originally posted by: LittleJake
a reply to: Mahogany

What 3 letter agency do you work for?

Self employed. West Coast, USA. Proud American.

Do you work out of St. Petersburg or out of Moscow?

originally posted by: JAY1980
You know it's almost as if Russia cares more about Ukranian soldiers than Ukraine does...

I know that statement is triggering to some but it would appear this is the reality of this conflict.

Oh yes, a propaganda ad filmed in a Moscow studio is an absolute proof that russians "care" about Ukrainians...

For a forum of "free thinkers" some of you are so susceptible to this Goebbels-style propaganda it's actually worrisome.

a reply to: anonentity

They're trying escape the meat grinder. After seeing enough of your buddies blown up, and no progress being made against the invading forces, common-sense and self-preservation takes over.

a reply to: JinMI

To the topic, I find it humorous that people are so quick to jump on the "RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA" tripe without a hint of irony around our own media for the past decade and a half.


DId people suddenly forget about the Project Mockingbird and the Smith-Mundt act?

Using one falsehood to justify another is like comparing two piles of waste - it doesn't improve or degrade the situation. I firmly oppose all forms of misinformation.

However, in the context of this thread, a particular YouTube video from a specific channel was highlighted, leading the discussion in that direction.

Those who disagree with this stance are akin to those with flawed logic, much like individuals who litter in nature and rationalize it by pointing to larger-scale pollution by big corporations, believing their actions have little consequence

Dont doubt that some have, just like I dont doubt russians have surrendered as well.

Still astonishes me that so many seem to blindly believe all of it.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: anonentity

They're trying escape the meat grinder. After seeing enough of your buddies blown up, and no progress being made against the invading forces, common-sense and self-preservation takes over.

Omg, you guys are all so obviously Russian, it's not even a secret. I'm an American and I'm proud to say so. Why are you guys so afraid of being from Russia?

a reply to: Spacespider

Using one falsehood to justify another is like comparing two piles of waste - it doesn't improve or degrade the situation. I firmly oppose all forms of misinformation.

Ok, now you're going to tell me how this is invalid.....

However, in the context of this thread, a particular YouTube video from a specific channel was highlighted, leading the discussion in that direction.

There it is. A complete repudiation of your premise because you also said this previously:

There are some people in the US who question the support and offer criticism. What redacted does is outright Russian state propaganda the narrative is exactly what Russia spreads internally. It's not real criticism, it's just bull#.

These pro Russia script readers are responsible for more deaths, panic and broken families they would ever know just to get that fat stinky pay under the table no matter the cost.

Without any proof, source, evidence or anything but your words.

While completely ignoring all the pro Ukraine propaganda that ONLY existed after Russias invasion.

Sorry, I don't play these stupid games.

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: anonentity

They're trying escape the meat grinder. After seeing enough of your buddies blown up, and no progress being made against the invading forces, common-sense and self-preservation takes over.

Omg, you guys are all so obviously Russian, it's not even a secret. I'm an American and I'm proud to say so. Why are you guys so afraid of being from Russia?

I thought you were a divisive propagandist.....


Who knew you were American, learn something new everyday.