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What did Hunter sell?

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posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

I remember you losing this argument, so you moved the goal posts.

It doesn't matter. Your assertion is bogus. Your evidence is refuted by historical timelines and documented facts.


edit on 28-9-2023 by Sookiechacha because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 10:54 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

If theyd simply hold Hunter to some legal standard, everything else would sort itself out.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

I remember you losing this argument, so you moved the goal posts.

It doesn't matter. Your assertion is bogus. Your evidence is refuted by historical timelines and facts.



You are allowed to think that.


Its right out of Bidens mouth...and bank records, and shell companies, and tesitmony. Etc etc.


I know it stings abit that you dont even have a fraction of the evidence against Trump that exists against Biden.





posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Are shell companies illegal? Is influence peddling illegal?

I know it stung when Rep Comer said "It should be", when asked. I know it stings you too.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

No, influence peddling is not illegal. It becomes bribery when that influence results in a quid pro quo. Which Biden is on camera admitting.

See, we all knew the recording was suspect. Finally, the facts are drawing up to the obvious conclusion.


As an aside, don't you feel just a little bit gross defending a 50 year racist politician and his womanizing son?


Even just a tiny bit?



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: Stopthebull

Shokin was removed because he wasn't investigating corruption. State Department policy before Joe's trip is that the US wanted Shokin removed. Poroshenko has said that Shokin wasn't removed due to Biden's comments.

Do you know what happened to Burisma after Shokin was removed? Their offices were raided by investigators after no movement was made on the case under Shokin.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 06:12 AM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: Stopthebull

Shokin was removed because he wasn't investigating corruption. State Department policy before Joe's trip is that the US wanted Shokin removed. Poroshenko has said that Shokin wasn't removed due to Biden's comments.

Do you know what happened to Burisma after Shokin was removed? Their offices were raided by investigators after no movement was made on the case under Shokin.


Shokin Interview - the only one

Tne Narrative is wrong




Devon Archer reveals exactly what Hunter was selling — Joe Biden


As Uncle Jim told Tony Bobulinski, another former business partner of Hunter’s, Joe is big on “plausible deniability,” a term coined by the CIA during the Kennedy administration to describe the practice of keeping the president only vaguely informed about illegal or unsavory activity so he can plausibly deny he knows anything if it becomes public knowledge.



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posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: MetalThunder

Of course the man that was fired for being corrupt is going to say he wasn't corrupt. The man that fired him said it was because he was corrupt and Biden's comments had nothing to do with it.

Archer also testified that he never saw Joe enact any policy with the purpose of aiding Hunter's businesses. In fact, Archer's testimony is so damaging to the GOP's narrative that Comer refused to have it entered in as evidence yesterday.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: Stopthebull

Pretty much every Dem is calling for Menendez to resign. It's the GOP that want him to stay in office.


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posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 07:26 AM
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posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: JinMI




It becomes bribery when that influence results in a quid pro quo. Which Biden is on camera admitting.


No. It was an ultimatum, delivered by VP Joe Biden, the head of the US Envoy to Ukraine, appointed by President Obama.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 08:17 AM
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Lol
Son of a bitch….as biden says……

It’s documented on video
Its silly they still deny it




posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: Stopthebull

Shokin was removed because he wasn't investigating corruption. State Department policy before Joe's trip is that the US wanted Shokin removed. Poroshenko has said that Shokin wasn't removed due to Biden's comments.

Do you know what happened to Burisma after Shokin was removed? Their offices were raided by investigators after no movement was made on the case under Shokin.


Think about the level of BS on this one...


The White House, meanwhile, maintains Burisma was corrupt, and that Shokin's firing - which the then-vice president demanded - stemmed for not addressing such corruption.


www.dailymail.co.uk...


In 2012, the Ukrainian prosecutor general Viktor Pshonka began investigating Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, owner of the natural gas company Burisma Holdings, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption during 2010–2012.[42][43]

In 2015, Shokin became the prosecutor general, inheriting the investigation. The Obama administration and other governments and non-governmental organizations soon became concerned that Shokin was not adequately pursuing corruption in Ukraine, was protecting the political elite, and was regarded as "an obstacle to anti-corruption efforts".[27][44] Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma and, according to Zlochevsky's allies, using the threat of prosecution to try to solicit bribes from Mr. Zlochevsky and his team – to the extent that Obama officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering.


en.wikipedia.org...

Are we really supposed to believe that Joe Biden WANTED Burisma investigated while Hunter was making $83,000 per month from them from 2014 - 2019 as a board member? And Joe Biden wanted Viktor Shokin fired for not doing enough to end corruption while Shokin was only in the role of Prosecutor General for 1 stinking year between Feb 2015 - Mar 2016?

Tell us again, why Hunter Biden would accept a position on the Board of Directors in 2014 for a company who's owner had been investigated in 2012? And while that owner was replaced with a new one, he appears to be worse than the last...

en.wikipedia.org...

If Burisma's offices were "raided" shortly after Shokin was fired, it was only to hide all of the evidence showing Hunter's involvement in any of the Burisma ongoing corruption...that appears to never end.



Use your head, logic, and common sense here.



edit on 29-9-2023 by Deetermined because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Nobody is denying that he said it. What we're denying is that Joe Biden blurted out his deviant plot to fire the Ukrainian Prosecutor to protect his son Hunter from some imagined investigation Shokin was (not) doing on Hunter Biden.

What he did do is take credit for an international effort to arrest corruption in the Prosecutor's office.

After all, Shokin resigned 3 months after Joe's ultimatum regarding the US's $1 billion, but only 6 days after the IMF threatened to withhold $40 billion.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 08:45 AM
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And let's take a closer link into Burisma, shall we? Let's take a look at what took place while Hunter was there...


In 2015, Burisma was one of the founders of the International Forum on Energy Security for the Future and partnered the Electric Marathon. In 2017, it signed a partnership agreement with the Atlantic Council to promote anti-corruption measures.


en.wikipedia.org...

While Wikipedia would love for us to believe that the Atlantic Council promotes "anti-corruption" measures, there are plenty of whistleblowers out there who will tell you that they are usually behind the corruption we see going on.

So, who is the Atlantic Council and what are they involved in? Specifically between Hunter Biden's tenure at Burisma between 2014 - 2019?


The Digital Forensic Research Lab was founded in 2016, to study disinformation in open source environments and report on democratic processes. Top donors of the project and the think tank, in general, are currently Facebook, after a 2018 sum was donated, and the government of Great Britain.


en.wikipedia.org...-Menn2018-11

U.S. think tank's tiny lab helps Facebook battle fake social media

www.reuters.com...

Hunter is just a corrupt extension of crooked Joe and they BOTH need to be removed from government influence.


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posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Only because you want to see it.

Why do you not want to see worse from the Bidens?



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Who has walked out of the Obama or the Biden Administration with billions in cash and perks from a foreign government, in which they personally negotiated government treaties and contracts, like Ivanka, Jared and Mnuchin did? And then, you had Eric and Don Jr negotiating all the government contracts for Trump local and foreign properties, that were raising all those emolument assertions.

Hunter Biden wasn't an administration employee or appointee. He wasn't designated by the Vice President to manage his money and business dealings, like Trump did with his son's regarding his business dealings.



posted on Sep, 29 2023 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

I remember Obama delivering pallets of hard cold American dollars to Iran.

Wonder what all that was about? Wonder how Obama bought such big properties after being in office.

You really have to be kidding.


edit on 9/29/2023 by CoyoteAngels because: (no reason given)



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