Trump Committed Fraud By Inflating His Assets, Judge Rules

originally posted by: imitator
It's funny how on the same day we learned Joe Biden was wired $260,000 from China... the MSN reports that Trump is being investigated for minor business dealings.

Meanwhile, Biden and his son are literally getting paid off by foreign countries. 🤔

Interesting there is no “outrage “ from the BAMN people about that?

Or perhaps its just the plan

a reply to: imitator

If you want to make a thread about McCarthy's nothingburger of a presser designed to deflect from Trump's bad press, go right ahead. This thread is about Trump overvaluing his net worth and assets by billions every year and as a result his businessea are being dissolved for his widespread and long term fraud.

You might be "just now hearing this" but in real news we all have known. For a long time.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

This case predates any of the criminal cases. And the fact that he's losing his companies for committing widespread fraud seems like something is sticking.

and yet we are just now hearing about ? Sitting on the Big stuff were they ? Or maybe they are just getting desperate

Moving your assets from one company to another and changing the name is not losing anything .

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

Yeah Ol Trumpy is just running from Bank to Bank duping them for billions of dollars. These Banks are absolutely 100% aware of exactly how much Trump is and was worth at the time of the loans .

Now, you're starting to get it. That's exactly what he did.

And this is not a ruling on just DJT, it's a ruling on his organization. His accountants and his lawyers were all party to this fraud. So now his businesses lost their licenses to operate in New York -- they've been revoked.

That means that they may be forced to sell what they own in New York and recover whatever they can. Like a foreclosure, and no one pays top dollar for a foreclosure. His first instinct will be to do what he does best, which is commit more fraud, but now the courts will be watching for that and make sure it's not a sale to someone close by.

He'll pay back whatever he owes to the banks and maybe break even.

But he'll never be able to use those properties again as collateral and lie about their value. And no bank from now on will ever listen to what he, or his accountants or attorneys, say in their bank filings.

And he also defrauded insurance companies so he can also expect a battle right there. He definitely won't be saving any money on insurance from now on.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Do you think it's a coincidence that only Deutsche Bank and the Chinese will loan Trump money at this point?

originally posted by: BlueBaby
You might be "just now hearing this" but in real news we all have known. For a long time.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

This case predates any of the criminal cases. And the fact that he's losing his companies for committing widespread fraud seems like something is sticking.

and yet we are just now hearing about ? Sitting on the Big stuff were they ? Or maybe they are just getting desperate

Moving your assets from one company to another and changing the name is not losing anything .

Oh ? And who is We ?

and What were they waiting for ? If they had this " Fraud " then why not act on it ?

Don't you get it ? They are just going down a list and making # up as they go ," Okay well that didn't work lets try this next ." It's the DOJ they can keep this up for decades and decades .

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Do you think it's a coincidence that only Deutsche Bank and the Chinese will loan Trump money at this point?

You just pull stuff right from your keister?

www.cnn.com...

CNN — Former President Donald Trump refinanced the mortgage on Trump Tower with a $100 million loan from California-based Axos Bank, according to a new filing with the city.

Easily debunked misinformation and lies

Go lie elsewhere

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: nugget1



Regular Joe’s go to prison all the time for committing fraud. If it can happen to a regular person it definitely should happen to a powerful person.

Don’t you agree?

whatever the normal charge for this crime is, should be applied to the guilty. With no favor. Now, what is the normal charge for such a crime?

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

All his businesses went bankrupt in town...and Atlantic City, and another Golf Course, and, and.....

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Do you think it's a coincidence that only Deutsche Bank and the Chinese will loan Trump money at this point?

You just pull stuff right from your keister?

www.cnn.com...

CNN — Former President Donald Trump refinanced the mortgage on Trump Tower with a $100 million loan from California-based Axos Bank, according to a new filing with the city.

Easily debunked misinformation and lies

Go lie elsewhere

He refinanced last year this is a whole new year with a whole new bad reputation for Trump.

a reply to: quintessentone
Yep
And someone lied and said NOONE except the Chinese and germans would give him a loan.
An EASILY debunked LIE.

You want to defend that lie?

Really, I have zero patience for complete denial and absurd, although slightly comical, musings of one who is in as deep as you. No one could break through with you so you may understand fact and truth. Let alone how a case becomes a sentence, and how much time it takes.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: BlueBaby
You might be "just now hearing this" but in real news we all have known. For a long time.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

This case predates any of the criminal cases. And the fact that he's losing his companies for committing widespread fraud seems like something is sticking.

and yet we are just now hearing about ? Sitting on the Big stuff were they ? Or maybe they are just getting desperate

Moving your assets from one company to another and changing the name is not losing anything .

Oh ? And who is We ?

and What were they waiting for ? If they had this " Fraud " then why not act on it ?

Don't you get it ? They are just going down a list and making # up as they go ," Okay well that didn't work lets try this next ." It's the DOJ they can keep this up for decades and decades .

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: quintessentone
Yep
And someone lied and said NOONE except the Chinese and germans would give him a loan.
An EASILY debunked LIE.

You want to defend that lie?

How do you think he will fare now with this ranking in this poll?

The Trump Organization scored a 52.9 out of 100, making it the only company to receive a “very poor” score, according to the rankings. FTX, Fox Corporation, Twitter and Facebook received the next lowest scores, rounding out the bottom five.

theharrispoll.com...

Even Anheuser Busch is doing much better than Trump Org.

a reply to: BlueBaby
You realize that we've all been watching a roadrunner/coyote scenario on repeat for the last 7+ years?
But this is the one I tell ya!

Poor coyote.

a reply to: quintessentone
Dont care,
Bamn asshat states trump cant get loans,
Proof of loans administered submitted,
Watching likeminded defend easily debunked lie…..

Priceless






Thanks for that bit of sunshine!

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: quintessentone
Dont care,
Bamn asshat states trump cant get loans,
Proof of loans administered submitted,
Watching likeminded defend easily debunked lie…..

Priceless






Thanks for that bit of sunshine!

There was no debunking. Let him try to refinance anything now. Did you see Anheuser Busch's position in the chart...it's pretty good.

a reply to: BlueBaby

Really, I have zero patience for complete denial and absurd, although slightly comical, musings of one who is in as deep as you. No one could break through with you so you may understand fact and truth. Let alone how a case becomes a sentence, and how much time it takes.

No you have zero Patience for someone who questions Everything and refuses to go along just because it's a go along party.

When the other side and you admits that Biden , Hunter and Hillary and many others are Treasonous Lying Traitors selling this country out then and Only then will I even begin to consider that Trump is 1% the Criminal you think he is .

your working for and protesting for people who want to destroy everything that has ever made this nation great.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: Mahogany

This is basically what he did, just on a much wealthier scale, duping banks you or I could never get to. Always using the previous schemes to fund the next ones.

There you go again lying to yourself .

Yeah Ol Trumpy is just running from Bank to Bank duping them for billions of dollars. These Banks are absolutely 100% aware of exactly how much Trump is and was worth at the time of the loans .

You think Banks like that , That can Gather that kind of Capital are that stupid . Think about it mate the number of Banks that can even gather that kind of Capital you can count on one hand , They know more about Trumps Finances than he does .

Cognitive dissonance is real and you swim in it.

That last line of yours is quite a projection.
Reality has caught up to realty.
He is so screwed and he completely deserves all of it.
I’m sure he’ll be asking for handouts online soon.
Not handouts, “donations to his re-election fund”!the fake one.

originally posted by: Nodrak

originally posted by: Threadbare
However, that may be the least of Trump's worries. If the companies are dissolved, he'll be responsible for paying off their outstanding debts.

Are people just becoming dumber? The entire point of making a company is to shield you against liabilities. How would trump be liable for paying off corporate debt?

You are trying to imply that trump personally appraised the value of his own assets and then also filed his own accounting and SEC documents?

If you actually take a moment to understand the nature of the trial, it is nonsense. The entire case is attempting to claim a price on unique property. The damage this suit can do will be outstanding to large capital investors in real-estate.

I wonder, does this AG's suit even attempt to explain why the buy'er did not get their own assessment of the property? How is it fraud if the buyer pays what the seller is asking?

In order for there to be fraud there has to be someone who was the victim of said fraud. If I file my private company's financial statements and lie and say I made 100x as much as I did, and then pay the taxes on that "LIE", is that fraud even though I was the victim?

In this case, for 'the people' vs trump, the people could only have been subject to fraud if they were on the hook for the properties somehow. Trump Tower is owned by 'GMAC Commercial Mortgage', why are they not suing trump?

Facts can really stymie these fools, that’s why they tune out or simply ignore posts like yours.

They don’t deal in facts, they deal in fantasies.

originally posted by: spacedoubt

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: Mahogany

This is basically what he did, just on a much wealthier scale, duping banks you or I could never get to. Always using the previous schemes to fund the next ones.

There you go again lying to yourself .

Yeah Ol Trumpy is just running from Bank to Bank duping them for billions of dollars. These Banks are absolutely 100% aware of exactly how much Trump is and was worth at the time of the loans .

You think Banks like that , That can Gather that kind of Capital are that stupid . Think about it mate the number of Banks that can even gather that kind of Capital you can count on one hand , They know more about Trumps Finances than he does .

Cognitive dissonance is real and you swim in it.

That last line of yours is quite a projection.
Reality has caught up to realty.
He is so screwed and he completely deserves all of it.
I’m sure he’ll be asking for handouts online soon.
Not handouts, “donations to his re-election fund”!the fake one.

Reality has become a Fantasy made up as they go along .

you are sooooo getting ahead of yourself on this one , your forgetting that all of this is built on the assumption the Democrats can win in 2024 .

and when they don't win what happens ? Well I'm curious of that myself . Like I said we shall see because if you think for one second Orange man didn't see a massive attack on his finances coming .....