Trump Committed Fraud By Inflating His Assets, Judge Rules

a reply to: Annee

Yes. I have been there. It has a rich history.

originally posted by: SRPrime
Civil court is not evidence based; it's feelings based. Well we "feel" you committed fraud; so we're gonna levy a judgement against you.

Of all the things in this thread that are not true, and there are many, this is the most not true.

Do you know what a Preponderance of Evidence means?

Don't forget, the judge made the determination because it was a bench trial as a jury trial was not requested by Trump's lawyer. You can yell all you want about the judge, but the Trump team made that decision.

a reply to: matafuchs

If you don't care, why should I?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: stevieray

My apologies. I thought members were free to post on here?

Ahh, OK, third man in I see.

I was questioning his sniffy little all-knowing persona. Not yours ……Yours is up and running just fine.

And why would I know much about the law ? I’m an architect. I won’t quiz you on that area.

I can argue common sense, and most of this Trump garbage is just that, the complete abandonment of common sense, and a petty infantile need to see things done to Trump, right or wrong, true or false.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Annee

Why not, you guys always find a way to bring Trump up in anything and everything.

Pretty on topic question in regards to your reply. His life has been pretty "ruined" since he got caught, but still wants to deny it

Deflection.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Annee

Why not, you guys always find a way to bring Trump up in anything and everything.

Pretty on topic question in regards to your reply. His life has been pretty "ruined" since he got caught, but still wants to deny it

Defection.

I never said Hunter was a defector

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You cannot answer a straight forward question.

Who is the victim in this civil case? Because the only thing that has happened is a judge released an opinion piece. No facts to back it up. No evidence.

What grounds do they actually have to do any of this? None.

There is no fraud in buying property FFS.

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: SRPrime
Civil court is not evidence based; it's feelings based. Well we "feel" you committed fraud; so we're gonna levy a judgement against you.

Of all the things in this thread that are not true, and there are many, this is the most not true.

Do you know what a Preponderance of Evidence means?

Well I can tell you one thing about it, it was judged and decided by one single solitary guy. So not as thorough as you’re supposing.

And yeah, the E Jean Carroll judgment was 100% feelz. No evidence, which is why they couldn’t even charge Trump with any specific crime. They just decided that bad old Trump must have done something “sex assault-like” to the poor old crone

And finding a Trump hating judge or jury in NY or CA or DC is the easiest thing ever known to man.

a reply to: matafuchs

Your question would be answered if you were to read the source in the OP?

originally posted by: PorkChop96

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Annee

Why not, you guys always find a way to bring Trump up in anything and everything.

Pretty on topic question in regards to your reply. His life has been pretty "ruined" since he got caught, but still wants to deny it

Defection.

I never said Hunter was a defector

Yeah, just saw that LOL 😝

I'm new at this .
In order for fraud to occur doesn't there have to be a victim of the fraud?
No victims here, all of the banks that are talked about were repaid their money with interest, by Trump and his companies.
The Mar Lago estimate of 18 mil is so far under value it is funny. County and State real estate evaluations are so far below market value it is to be laughable. Mar Largo itself has a estimated value of at least 300 mil. The estimate also includes 20 acres of Fla resort property.
This is just another attempt to hamper Trump in his run for re-election.
If I were a betting man I would bet this will be overturned on appeal fairly quickly.
We'll see...

originally posted by: Bob350
I'm new at this .
In order for fraud to occur doesn't there have to be a victim of the fraud?

There was definitely a victim of his fraud.

The court and the opposing party. He defrauded their feelings.

Link

AG Letitia James seeks to punish them all for routinely lying about property values to score better deals

This. A clown show.....

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Carp. I am asking you. There is nothing in the OP that shows a victim.

If you can't name it....just admit it is BS.

a reply to: Bob350

It all will be. This is why I laugh at the judges opinion it is taking too long. AG has been on this for almost 4 years. If he was not running for re-election NONE of this would be happening.

a reply to: matafuchs

www.forbes.com...

This is what the suit is about and the remedy sought:

"New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) sued former President Donald Trump, the Trump Organization and his children in state court Wednesday, after a years-long civil investigation into the Trump Organization’s financial dealings, alleging Trump and his associates committed “repeated and persistent” acts of fraud and should be barred from leading any companies in New York in the future."

The Attorney General is not suing on behalf of
a private individual, but is vindicating the state’s sovereign interest in enforcing its legal
code – including its civil legal code – within its jurisdiction (see Alfred L. Snapp & Son,
Inc. v Puerto Rico ex rel. Barez, 458 US 592, 601 [1982]; see also People v Coventry
First LLC, 52 AD3d 345, 346

Source

Hang on. The Judge's ruling was against Trump's lawyers application to dismiss the suit?

The trial will continue:

www.theguardian.com...