The end of the world theological

a reply to: Untun

oh please like i care enough about somebody who can't even discuss opinions for this to have any sort of effect on my ego.
All that effects me is the realisation that you are a waste of time.

a reply to: Peeple

It's true, you sound like a nice guy.

Thanks for your stay.

a reply to: Untun

I am not nice, I am no guy. Again: total fail on your end

a reply to: Peeple

Failure is my middle name, I fail at life all the time. It's considered a super power. I'm nice though.

a reply to: Peeple

Oh, my. If you can follow me...if you cannot, its my fault....Near death fall from heights where I saw a white hand surrounded by a golden aura...as I was being pulled out. Another near fatal, saw outline of what I took to be Jesus saying "not yet!"

Once, in a burned out house in winter here in Detroit...no windows, snow, food...I sat with a 12 gauge with a single shot sawed off in my lap in the dark. The room began to light up slowly, brighter and brighter. It was someone pulling into the driveway with some food and a few $$$. The very last second. I felt Jesus as I knew him with me that moment.

Was it just this? The fall? Or a dozen OTHER incidents equally as alarming and amazing in their timing thruout my life. And how do I know it was Jesus?

I may have some later explaining to do, but even though my G-G Father was an Evangelist, me a Catholic, Mom a Methodist...Ive never pushed the "JESUS" agenda. My reason may not be fully understood. but in my life many people occupy the many rooms of Gods Mansion.

And as the Bible says in this that I find interesting: Deuteronomy 6:4 "The Lord our God, the Lord is one". It doesnt name GOD...just call him LORD, because He is ONE! A lotta folks got a lotta names for "GOD" in their countries and belief systems...and Ill respect that.

Im positive. Absolutely positive... that Jesus often smiled as he spoke. JESUS Im sure...saves no one. HE ALREADY HAS.

God Bless everyone reading.....MS

a reply to: mysterioustranger

And as the Bible says in this that I find interesting: Deuteronomy 6:4 "The Lord our God, the Lord is one". It doesnt name GOD...just call him LORD, because He is ONE! A lotta folks got a lotta names for "GOD" in their countries and belief systems...and Ill respect that.

I'm positive. Absolutely positive... that Jesus often smiled as he spoke. JESUS Im sure...saves no one. HE ALREADY HAS.

If you know the Bible like you claim you do in another thread, then you know that...

1 John 5-8

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one.

So, tell us again what keeps you from pushing the "JESUS agenda"?

God judges the world, it's a bad place and we have all these people working on the world.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Okay. no intention to offend anybody just my take on it since we're discussing, right?
You have no other reason to think 'J.C. saved me' other than cultural indoctrination.
If you were a Hindu it would be the same thing with different names.

At least you're tolerant so I respect that and will leave it at that.

Yes, we parrot everything we've been told. What's people their problem.

a reply to: Deetermined

Please! I never said I know the Bible- your words. You....are soooo lost if you think I'm pushing any "Jesus agenda". I'll pray you find truth.

This is gonna be deep for you.....I'm pushing the Jesus, Buddha, Yahweh , Krishna agendas: all of them.

Try and follow. That which brings one closer to God or their "God's"...is a good thing...no matter what they call Him, Her or Them.

The Divine is not of printed word, but of flesh and blood. Every day. Will you stand before yours and say " Of Yeah Lord! I spent my whole life reading the (some) "good book".

But did you close it...go out...and put it to use? You have some thinking to do....*

PS My GGFather, Evangelist converted 25,000 people to the "Lord"...not Jesus. Now why do you suppose that is?

Please close your "book", quote nothing...explain please.
(...crickets....chirp ...chirp)....

Peace

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Please! I never said I know the Bible- your words. You....are soooo lost if you think I'm pushing any "Jesus agenda". I'll pray you find truth.

I guess I assumed you were versed in the Bible because of this statement you made in another thread...

You...are assuming based on the printed word...that I'm uninformed. How do you know I have no Theology Degree, am not a Church Deacon, or studied at a Seminary (I did)?"

What kind of seminary did you study in?

a reply to: mysterioustranger

The Divine is not of printed word, but of flesh and blood. Every day. Will you stand before yours and say " Of Yeah Lord! I spent my whole life reading the (some) "good book".

We are not divine. I can tell the Lord that I followed him and the disciples in spreading "the GOSPEL of the kingdom" like we've all been instructed to do...all which was instructed in the "good book".

a reply to: mysterioustranger

PS My GGFather, Evangelist converted 25,000 people to the "Lord"...not Jesus. Now why do you suppose that is?

Uh, your great grandfather didn't convert anyone. He spread the gospel of the kingdom and then the HOLY SPIRIT stepped in so that others had "ears to hear" and understand the message. The Bible tells us that God and Jesus draw men to themselves, not a human or angelic messenger.

John 12:32

32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.”

If you need more to understand...

This does not diminish God's sovereignty, but recognizes that He has sovereignly designed man to have free will which allows him to respond to God (for a related discussion on election see GraceNotes no. 72). Since the Bible teaches that man does not seek God on his own (Rom. 3:11), God must take the initiative. He reveals Himself in creation, and though man knows this, he still refuses to honor God (Rom. 1:19-21). So God, in His love, seeks us out (Luke 19:10; John 3:16; 1 John 4:9-10). But how should we understand the word draw as it is used in John 6:44? The range of meaning for the word elkuo includes to draw, pull, or attract. It is found five times in the New Testament, four of those in John. Though the literal uses in John and Acts clearly mean drag or pull (John 18:10; 21:6; Acts 16:19) the two figurative uses in John 6:44 and 12:32 are better understood as attract.

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a reply to: Deetermined

Catholic... in Michigan 63-67. St. Bernards Seminary.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Your initial response to me was...

Please! I never said I know the Bible- your words.

Now you're telling us that you went through a Catholic seminary for a few years and you still don't know the Bible. Honestly, I guess that shouldn't surprise me.

a reply to: Deetermined

Of course not...even the newspapers in 1890 said "it is said he was responsible for converting....etc".

Sometimes my brethren, your answers are not found in the printed word...and you keep "quoting". What...each day....are you DOING to put those words into practice?

If it's quoting, discussing, flipping pages and quoting more....you have lost all meaning.

Have no fear! You'll be great at reciting Scripture of the Christians...but when asked....at your time, what will you have DONE in life? Told people to read?

Blessings to you....MS

a reply to: Deetermined

I am a Gnostic. I know. Big word. God is God. Many rooms, many names...how do you think I even learned?

Here's a single last thought for you today: Jesus...never read or studied any "Bible". There wasn't 1. He studied scripture Hebrew-Jewish scripture-old testament books.

Did Jesus die...a Jew or "Christian"? Honest question. Did He say "write everything about me, but nothing of the Holy Torah"? These were the holy scriptures he studied. Hebrew.

So...forward from the Resurrection...He was raised by the God of the Hebrews...for nothing yet existed...nothing at his death ..except the 4 books of Old Hebrew Testament.

Jesus himself studied Everything. Why would you just study Jesus,?!✌️

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Of course not...even the newspapers in 1890 said "it is said he was responsible for converting....etc".

He was responsible for planting the seed, but only God can help you make sense of what's being planted. I posted those scriptures above.

Sometimes my brethren, your answers are not found in the printed word...and you keep "quoting". What...each day....are you DOING to put those words into practice?

If it's quoting, discussing, flipping pages and quoting more....you have lost all meaning.

Tell us again how you're putting those words into practice?

Have no fear! You'll be great at reciting Scripture of the Christians...but when asked....at your time, what will you have DONE in life? Told people to read?

If you're going to repeat yourself, I will too...

I can tell the Lord that I followed him and the disciples in spreading "the GOSPEL of the kingdom" like we've all been instructed to do...all which was instructed in the "good book"

Since you went as far as to go to Catholic seminary, but still don't know the Bible, I'll remind you that it tells us over and over again that good works alone won't save you. It's the faith and belief that Jesus Christ IS Lord.

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a reply to: Deetermined
Your last sentence is precisely what I was getting at.

Took you awhile!

a reply to: mysterioustranger

Your last sentence is precisely what I was getting at.

Took you awhile!

So, if you believe Jesus IS Lord, how do you reconcile other religions that purposefully deny Jesus? Do you believe that people who worship a god that denies Jesus as the Son and Lamb of God still have a way of reconciling themselves to God when Jesus told us that only He was the Way, the Truth, and the Life through His sacrifice?