Dr Jordan Peterson to lose his license and to get professionally cancelled by the woke culture

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

This is rather old news. The dispute went to court and a decision was given on Aug 23.

Three Ontario Divisional Court judges unanimously dismissed Peterson's application, ruling that the college's decision falls within its mandate to regulate the profession in the public interest and does not affect his freedom of expression.

"The order is not disciplinary and does not prevent Dr. Peterson from expressing himself on controversial topics; it has a minimal impact on his right to freedom of expression," the decision written by Justice Paul Schabas reads, in part.

Peterson had said his statements were not made in his capacity as a clinical psychologist, but instead were "off-duty opinions" — an argument the court rejected.

"Dr. Peterson sees himself functioning as a clinical psychologist 'in the broad public space' where he claims to be helping 'millions of people,"' Schabas wrote. Source

The whole judgement is given at the bottom of the article.

As far as I know, he still has his licence, and all he has to do to keep it is pay for and attend a short training course. Humiliating but hardly a cancellation.

As for being cancelled by woke activists, he burned that bridge behind him a long time ago.

As far as I know, he still has his licence, and all he has to do to keep it is pay for and attend a short training course. Humiliating but hardly a cancellation.

Absolutely not!
There is no requirement where your license is under question if you don't attend a 'short training course'. Your professional license is not course dependent. You're mistaken.

And he did annihilate the woke ideology at every single case he debated the woke crowd. But again his license isn't dependent on whether he has good relationships with the woke crowd or the trans community.

You're mistaken again.

This is a political witchhunt and he is about to lose his license for his political views.

To claim that he has to attend a course to keep it it's kind of absurd.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

This is rather old news. The dispute went to court and a decision was given on Aug 23.

Three Ontario Divisional Court judges unanimously dismissed Peterson's application, ruling that the college's decision falls within its mandate to regulate the profession in the public interest and does not affect his freedom of expression.

"The order is not disciplinary and does not prevent Dr. Peterson from expressing himself on controversial topics; it has a minimal impact on his right to freedom of expression," the decision written by Justice Paul Schabas reads, in part.

Peterson had said his statements were not made in his capacity as a clinical psychologist, but instead were "off-duty opinions" — an argument the court rejected.

"Dr. Peterson sees himself functioning as a clinical psychologist 'in the broad public space' where he claims to be helping 'millions of people,"' Schabas wrote. Source

The whole judgement is given at the bottom of the article.

As far as I know, he still has his licence, and all he has to do to keep it is pay for and attend a short training course. Humiliating but hardly a cancellation.

As for being cancelled by woke activists, he burned that bridge behind him a long time ago.

The thing is, He doesn't need to keep his license, He is weathly. Others not in his position will need to take the "Short training course" in order to keep their positions and jobs. they are using this as a method to cancel people who don't tow their line.

originally posted by: MaximusParvus

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

This is rather old news. The dispute went to court and a decision was given on Aug 23.

Three Ontario Divisional Court judges unanimously dismissed Peterson's application, ruling that the college's decision falls within its mandate to regulate the profession in the public interest and does not affect his freedom of expression.

"The order is not disciplinary and does not prevent Dr. Peterson from expressing himself on controversial topics; it has a minimal impact on his right to freedom of expression," the decision written by Justice Paul Schabas reads, in part.

Peterson had said his statements were not made in his capacity as a clinical psychologist, but instead were "off-duty opinions" — an argument the court rejected.

"Dr. Peterson sees himself functioning as a clinical psychologist 'in the broad public space' where he claims to be helping 'millions of people,"' Schabas wrote. Source

The whole judgement is given at the bottom of the article.

As far as I know, he still has his licence, and all he has to do to keep it is pay for and attend a short training course. Humiliating but hardly a cancellation.

As for being cancelled by woke activists, he burned that bridge behind him a long time ago.

The thing is, He doesn't need to keep his license, He is weathly. Others not in his position will need to take the "Short training course" in order to keep their positions and jobs. they are using this as a method to cancel people who don't tow their line.

I find it hard to believe it's not clear to some that there is a cancellation process. But more importantly since when your professional license is dependent upon your political views?! The 'short training course' is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

It's that easy and crystal clear.

originally posted by: RazorV66
Liberals everywhere avoid the truth and reality like the plague.

I am torn between thinking it’s a mental illness or just plain stupidity.

It is plain stupidity. Stupid can't have a mental illness.

a reply to: AlienBorg

"Jordan Peterson has to go through 'professional coaching' to reconsider his views and ideas and start to think 'properly' if he doesn't want to lose his licence as a clinical psychologist. In a few words he must get the right political views or else he gets cancelled!! "

When I read that, I instantly remembered the Film 1984 and correctional mind control!

a reply to: AlienBorg

Your professional license is not course dependent. You're mistaken.

This was precisely the question that the court was asked to decide. It ruled that the body that awarded him his licence had the right to require this of him.

Not surprisingly, the court ruled that it did. And of course it can -- just like the state can take away the driver's licence it awarded you if you don't follow the rules of the road. Any other verdict would have been a surprise.

I suppose Dr Peterson could appeal the decision. I eidh him luck.

And he did annihilate the woke ideology at every single case he debated the woke crowd.

Matter of opinion, friend. I used to be quite fond of old Jordan myself, but he jumped the plausibility shark a while ago. Now he's just another grifter on the media circuit, talking hyperbolic bollocks for likes and ad views.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

Your professional license is not course dependent. You're mistaken.

This was precisely the question that the court was asked to decide. It ruled that the body that awarded him his licence had the right to require this of him.

Not surprisingly, the court ruled that it did. And of course it can -- just like the state can take away the driver's licence it awarded you if you don't follow the rules of the road. Any other verdict would have been a surprise.

I suppose Dr Peterson could appeal the decision. I eidh him luck.

And he did annihilate the woke ideology at every single case he debated the woke crowd.

Matter of opinion, friend. I used to be quite fond of old Jordan myself, but he jumped the plausibility shark a while ago. Now he's just another grifter on the media circuit, talking hyperbolic bollocks for likes and ad views.

you should debate him, teach him what superior thinking is all about.

a reply to: MaximusParvus

That's an interesting point if true. But I think the judgement only applies to this particular case. It will set a precedent of course, but not a definitive one.

a reply to: network dude

you should debate him, teach him what superior thinking is all about.

A bit off topic, no?

a reply to: AlienBorg

I find it hard to believe it's not clear to some that there is a cancellation process.

For a professional licence? Well of course there is. The Canadian College of Psychiatrists or whatever it's called will begin that process if Peterson refuses to comply with the court order. But they haven't yet, and he still has his license. What are you objecting to?

But more importantly since when your professional license is dependent upon your political views?!

When your political views affect your professional conduct. This is true of all professions.

The 'short training course' is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

On the contrary, it's an attempt to accommodate him. They are entirely within their rights to strike him off -- he'd have signed up to that when he became a member.

Do you belong to any professional association? If so, you'd be familiar with that caveat from your own induction process.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: network dude

you should debate him, teach him what superior thinking is all about.

A bit off topic, no?

no sure, who typed this:

Matter of opinion, friend. I used to be quite fond of old Jordan myself, but he jumped the plausibility shark a while ago. Now he's just another grifter on the media circuit, talking hyperbolic bollocks for likes and ad views.

If it is, report both mine and whomever posted the above.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

I find it hard to believe it's not clear to some that there is a cancellation process.

For a professional licence? Well of course there is. The Canadian College of Psychiatrists or whatever it's called will begin that process if Peterson refuses to comply with the court order. But they haven't yet, and he still has his license. What are you objecting to?

But more importantly since when your professional license is dependent upon your political views?!

When your political views affect your professional . This is true of all professions.

The 'short training course' is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

On the contrary, it's an attempt to accommodate him. They are entirely within their rights to strike him off -- he'd have signed up to that when he became a member.

Do you belong to any professional association? If so, you'd be familiar with that caveat from your own induction process.

Your professional license isn't dependent upon your political views. If that was the case thousands and thousands of teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers, and the rest, will lose their license at a constant rate and according to whoever is having the power in their professional associations.

The short course cannot provide anything to Peterson or any professional because nothing can happen in a short period of time and this particular one is of no value. As I said earlier this is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

They believe they have the right to strike him off. But that's very different to actually having the right to strike him off. It's a political witchhunt by the radical left. I think it's clear. To argue that the course is there to accommodate him is very absurd. Nobody will agree with you on this....

I think you maybe one of the very few who denies this is a political witchhunt.

The court cannot legitimise this witchhunt but they're trying to as they're also under political influences. This is an orchestrated political move against him. What Peterson said and argued has nothing to do with the College of Psychiatrists and these are his personal opinions and political views.

His license isn't related to his political views. You said they do when they affect his professional conduct but that's a circular argument and who decides whether his conduct is right or wrong?? The woke crowd? The radical left? Some politicians or bureaucrats?

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

I find it hard to believe it's not clear to some that there is a cancellation process.

For a professional licence? Well of course there is. The Canadian College of Psychiatrists or whatever it's called will begin that process if Peterson refuses to comply with the court order. But they haven't yet, and he still has his license. What are you objecting to?

But more importantly since when your professional license is dependent upon your political views?!

When your political views affect your professional . This is true of all professions.

The 'short training course' is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

On the contrary, it's an attempt to accommodate him. They are entirely within their rights to strike him off -- he'd have signed up to that when he became a member.

Do you belong to any professional association? If so, you'd be familiar with that caveat from your own induction process.

Your professional license isn't dependent upon your political views. If that was the case thousands and thousands of teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers, and the rest, will lose their license at a constant rate and according to whoever is having the power in their professional associations.

The short course cannot provide anything to Peterson or any professional because nothing can happen in a short period of time and this particular one is of no value. As I said earlier this is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

They believe they have the right to strike him off. But that's very different to actually having the right to strike him off. It's a political witchhunt by the radical left. I think it's clear. To argue that the course is there to accommodate him is very absurd. Nobody will agree with you on this....

I think you maybe one of the very few who denies this is a political witchhunt.

The court cannot legitimise this witchhunt but they're trying to as they're also under political influences. This is an orchestrated political move against him. What Peterson said and argued has nothing to do with the College of Psychiatrists and these are his personal opinions and political views.

His license isn't related to his political views. You said they do when they affect his professional conduct but that's a circular argument and who decides whether his conduct is right or wrong?? The woke crowd? The radical left? Some politicians or bureaucrats?

Okay gonna jump in on this thread. FIrst off, most Canadians think Peterson is a complete whack job. Not because of his political views, but rather because he doesn't act with any level of professionalism. Never bring your political views to work. Ever. That's the best advice I give to everyone. For some reason Peterson never figured that out. So he spouts off his political view, that have nothing to do with his professional life, then complains when he faces consequences for his actions.

You are always free to have an opinion and makes whatever decision you want.

But do kid yourself into thinking that your actions come without consequence.

If I went to work and spewed crap the way this guy would I would probably get reprimanded as well. And rightfully so. In your professional career, people of all political beliefs need to work together.

He was free to speak his mind. He did. Now here come the consequences.

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: AlienBorg

I find it hard to believe it's not clear to some that there is a cancellation process.

For a professional licence? Well of course there is. The Canadian College of Psychiatrists or whatever it's called will begin that process if Peterson refuses to comply with the court order. But they haven't yet, and he still has his license. What are you objecting to?

But more importantly since when your professional license is dependent upon your political views?!

When your political views affect your professional . This is true of all professions.

The 'short training course' is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

On the contrary, it's an attempt to accommodate him. They are entirely within their rights to strike him off -- he'd have signed up to that when he became a member.

Do you belong to any professional association? If so, you'd be familiar with that caveat from your own induction process.

Your professional license isn't dependent upon your political views. If that was the case thousands and thousands of teachers, doctors, nurses, engineers, and the rest, will lose their license at a constant rate and according to whoever is having the power in their professional associations.

The short course cannot provide anything to Peterson or any professional because nothing can happen in a short period of time and this particular one is of no value. As I said earlier this is nothing more than an attempt to make those who disagree submit to authority and to silence them.

They believe they have the right to strike him off. But that's very different to actually having the right to strike him off. It's a political witchhunt by the radical left. I think it's clear. To argue that the course is there to accommodate him is very absurd. Nobody will agree with you on this....

I think you maybe one of the very few who denies this is a political witchhunt.

The court cannot legitimise this witchhunt but they're trying to as they're also under political influences. This is an orchestrated political move against him. What Peterson said and argued has nothing to do with the College of Psychiatrists and these are his personal opinions and political views.

His license isn't related to his political views. You said they do when they affect his professional conduct but that's a circular argument and who decides whether his conduct is right or wrong?? The woke crowd? The radical left? Some politicians or bureaucrats?

Okay gonna jump in on this thread. FIrst off, most Canadians think Peterson is a complete whack job. Not because of his political views, but rather because he doesn't act with any level of professionalism. Never bring your political views to work. Ever. That's the best advice I give to everyone. For some reason Peterson never figured that out. So he spouts off his political view, that have nothing to do with his professional life, then complains when he faces consequences for his actions.

You are always free to have an opinion and makes whatever decision you want.

But do kid yourself into thinking that your actions come without consequence.

If I went to work and spewed crap the way this guy would I would probably get reprimanded as well. And rightfully so. In your professional career, people of all political beliefs need to work together.

He was free to speak his mind. He did. Now here come the consequences.

Most radical left wing woke Canadians think Jordan Peterson is complete whack.

You see?! I did fix it for you.

I am sure if someone is a Trudeau follower and supporter then Jordan Peterson won't be high in their list.

But if you want to compare them intellectually then the difference is chaotic!

a reply to: AlienBorg

Wouldn't call myself a Trudeau supporter. More of a victim of there being no one else to vote for. Conservatives in Canada have gone too far right. NDP in Canada have gone too far left. The only party between them are the Liberals. So it's either vote for Trudeau again or hope that Pierre brings the Cons back from being so far right.

a reply to: CanadianLoudMouth

"Okay gonna jump in on this thread. FIrst off, most Canadians think Peterson is a complete whack job"

Only the commies and marxist think that. Due to their Cognitive dissonance

originally posted by: CanadianLoudMouth
a reply to: AlienBorg

Wouldn't call myself a Trudeau supporter. More of a victim of there being no one else to vote for. Conservatives in Canada have gone too far right. NDP in Canada have gone too far left. The only party between them are the Liberals. So it's either vote for Trudeau again or hope that Pierre brings the Cons back from being so far right.

I see! So you're not a supporter but you have voted for Trudeau. That can explain why you regard Peterson as a complete whack. Btw his political witchhunt is multi-dimensional as he criticised Trude and his Government so many times that he lost count. He has annihilated him and I understand why the system wants him cancelled.

originally posted by: MaximusParvus
a reply to: CanadianLoudMouth

"Okay gonna jump in on this thread. FIrst off, most Canadians think Peterson is a complete whack job"

Only the commies and marxist think that. Due to their Cognitive dissonance

What I said!

a reply to: AlienBorg

Your professional license isn't dependent upon your political views.

On this we agree. It depends on your professional conduct. If this becomes unprofessional as a result of your political views, you may well lose your licence.

The short course cannot provide anything to Peterson or any professional

Most probably not, but its purpose is otherwise. It's a last-ditch attempt to accommodate Peterson and make it possible for him to keep his licence. A way for him to save face, and retain the basis of his livelihood.

who decides whether his conduct is right or wrong?

The standing ethics committee, if the College has one. Otherwise a College committee specially convened for the task.

a reply to: CanadianLoudMouth

If I went to work and spewed crap the way this guy would I would probably get reprimanded as well. And rightfully so. In your professional career, people of all political beliefs need to work together.

With Peterson it was only a matter of time. The man haa been self-destructing in public for years and is now patently unfit to provide psychiatric care to anyone. He is manifestly in need of it himself.