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Russell Brand denies 'serious criminal allegations' he claims are being made against him

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posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: Daughter2

I posted it in the other thread because it is relevant.

Interesting that you dismiss her opinion without anything to back up your opinion.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Do you monitor these threads 24/7.

There were no facts to back it up. Just the ridiculous notion that an official committee isn't part of the government.
It was a silly redefining of the concept of government.

There was no way a reasonable person could read the letter and not be in fear the government would shut down their site.

There is a law in the UK which states the government cannot take away your rights without due process.
It was a threat made by a member of the government who has the power to follow through.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:10 PM
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a reply to: Daughter2


Here in Illinois, we recognize the letter Caroline wrote as a common tactic of organized crime.

They phrase things as questions too but they still are convicted.
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posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: Daughter2

"Do you monitor these threads 24/7."

No, I don't.

Why do you think I might?

What law is that?



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Here's one - there are other relevant ones too. The letter was a perfect example of intimidation in my opinion:
§ 12-6. Intimidation.

(a) A person commits intimidation when, with intent to cause another to perform or to omit the performance of any act, he or she communicates to another, directly or indirectly by any means, a threat to perform without lawful authority any of the following acts:

(1) Inflict physical harm on the person threatened or any other person or on property; or

(2) Subject any person to physical confinement or restraint; or

(3) Commit a felony or Class A misdemeanor; or

(4) Accuse any person of an offense; or

(5) Expose any person to hatred, contempt or ridicule; or

(6) Take action as a public official against anyone or anything, or withhold official action, or cause such action or withholding; or

(7) Bring about or continue a strike, boycott or other collective action.

(b) Sentence.

Intimidation is a Class 3 felony for which an offender may be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 2 years and not more than 10 years.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: Daughter2

UK law?

Felony? Class A misdemeanor?

Do you have a source? Or a link, please?



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2


I don't know UK law - maybe you don't have an intimidation statute but the law I quoted is sometimes used against politicians to get contracts or stop contracts with private entities. (BTW the source is Illinois Statutes: § 12-6. Intimidation). It wasn't my opinion - I just cut and pasted text.

It goes something like this:

Politician A: Hey Private party how is your business going? I'm very concerned that you will contract with Person C. Most firms contract with my brother's company. I work on the committee that licenses your type of business. In fact, I might try to pull C's license and that would delay your project.

The above is typical Chicago thug behavior and very similar to what Caroline did.


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posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: Daughter2

You said this:

"There is a law in the UK which states the government cannot take away your rights without due process."

I replied.

You replied with a list of felonies and misdemeanors which we don't actually have here.

We are talking about the UK here?

Not Illinois.
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posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You don't have any type of intimidation statute in the UK?

I'm guessing you have some type of statute about politicians using the position to intimidate others.

If not, the UK is really backwards.

And if she sent that letter to a US address (which I think twitter and Rumble both have US addresses) then I think the US intimidation laws just might apply.

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posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: bastion

Can you back that up with a link to something? This is the first I’ve heard of that.


Thames Valley Police arrested him in July 2014 for sexual assault - he used the same lawyer as Megan Markle, Jenny Afia of Schillings, to stop the press reporting on it or her MP and the PM from helping her the issue.

Russel Brand protected by high court order over 2014 sexual assault

Jenny Afia, Schillings
Jenny Afia




She helps the world's most successful individuals safeguard their privacy and protect their reputations, even when faced by the most concerted and daunting of threats and challenges. Jenny is highly regarded for her dedicated, intuitive and assiduous work advising high net worth individuals across various industries, including those in the spheres of entertainment, technology and finance.
...
The vast majority of her work is 'below the radar', countering arbitrary interference into her clients' privacy, the dissemination of falsehoods, and stopping intrusive and/or false stories from being published by the media. If such stories are published, Jenny acts to quickly correct the record for her clients – upholding their privacy and reputation, which can entail litigation.



The link you provided says the women claimed she was pushed by Brand, it doesn't say anything about sexual assault.

From your link

Ms Berki, who lived in Wimbledon, made a complaint to the Metropolitan Police who passed it on to Thames Valley Police. In July 2014, the force told the couple they had no case to answer and the investigation was concluded.

The judge said the allegations were “wholly denied”, and Ms Berki’s “claims are on their face internally inconsistent and have enlarged over time.”

She pointed out the masseuse had emailed the couple after the visit saying “it was nice to meet (them) and wished (Brand) a happy birthday.

“It is also noteworthy that the Defendant went first to the media, and only a week or so later did she attend the police.


So nothing to that particular case, it's understandable why Brand wouldn't want it reported in the press, nobody wants allegations made about them all over the media.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 01:23 PM
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"So nothing to that particular case, it's understandable why Brand wouldn't want it reported in the press, nobody wants allegations made about them all over the media"

Public interest counts for nothing?

Would you say the same for the likes of Saville, etc?

Prince Andrew?



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Not Sure the Brand wasn't all about the dirt in the first place, someone order this mofo a taxi with teen schoolgirls and the ratings will skyrocket when he's all pumped and convincing. Ya know.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 01:41 PM
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"I don't know UK law....."

Evidently, so why offer your opinions about it?

As I have said, many times, let's see if he even gets charged?

It's all speculation.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 01:48 PM
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So you think in the name of public interest the media can just put out damaging allegations without evidence? That's not journalism it's slander.

For example the poster I replied to claimed that Brand was arrested by police for sexual assault, the articled they linked to says nothing of the sort. Talk about twisting the facts...

In the case of Saville and Prince randy Andy, they were silent about Saville until after his death (probably because he had dirt on influential people) and with Andrew it only came out because of his close ties to Epstein and Ghislane. Yet spitting image did a gag about him in the 80's suggesting his antics were well known even back then.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 01:55 PM
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It's investigative journalism and I seriously doubt that they did not take extensive legal advice before going public.

Including, about evidence. Which they presented.

Slander? Defamation. Depends if it is untrue and there are various defences to defamation claims.

So far, Brand has not brought or intimated any such claim.

I can only say "let's see" so many times.
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posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: surfer_soul

"Yet spitting image did a gag about him in the 80's suggesting his antics were well known even back then."

Did they present any evidence!

By your logic you should be condemning them, too.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Are you just going to ignore that Bastion falsely represented the article?



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: Itisnowagain

I haven't commented on that.

I'm sure that Bastion is capable of speaking for himself?

Wasn't my post.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Saloon

It appears to be still just one person that has gone to the police with accusations.




He's been arrested for sexual assualt a number of times in the past.


Has he?

Show and tell.



posted on Sep, 24 2023 @ 03:04 PM
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