Russell Brand denies 'serious criminal allegations' he claims are being made against him

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Did you miss his link to Saville?

Doesn't matter if it was 20 or 30 years ago.

You don't know what evidence there might be. There hasn't even been a Police investigation carried out yet.

Yet you think there is 100% proof it's all fake?

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: andy06shake
I don't think you guys a being fair with Brand all the same. I could name a gaggle of famous people who rocked the cradle. Most of them rock stars. Elvis, Jimmy Page, Jerry Lee Lewis etc. They never got disrespected by any one for going way
younger than 16 yo.

Not to mention all the young girls that are thirteen go'n on thirty. Who often find their way into a party some where they shouldn't be.Then along comes Benny Buzzed Balls and he ain't thinking about check'n IDs at that particular moment. Next day Benny's waking upwith a freak'n hang over and Johnny law bang'n on the door with some really bad news.

Any way it just seems like the hate come'n off here is only for the reason I described. Liberals hate dissenters more than they hate God. And I say that with no idea what hat you wear. So let the haters hate. I mean hell Brands no hero of mine any way. I've watched him a few times on you tube and he's got a huge base on there.

All of this...^^^

He always seemed to me to be a pretentious ass, but I sort of like pretentious asses, guess thats why I like Trump.

16 is way too young for me, and personally I think it is a bit scummy, but she was of legal age when/where it happened, and apparently it was very willing at least to that point. So it certainly is not in the realm of pedo land. Rape? Maybe, and while the texts don't look great, they certainly don't amount to admitting rape.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Have you seen the complete text?

a reply to: AlienBorg

"I asked if he still have a license to practise."

You did.

Why?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: Itisnowagain

With all due respect, historically there was hardly a culture of encouraging women to come forward when they had been subjected to any sort of sexual attack here in the UK.
Yes, it was a systemic failing and one which we have to improve upon.

I know a couple of women who have confided in me that they didn't report the sexual abuse they endured because of the perceived stigma surrounding such victims.
One of those women is a very good friend of mine; she confided in me quite some time after breaking up with her partner, who was the offender.
She said she couldn't bear the trauma of the cross-examination in court and the thought that everybody knowing what she had suffered and all the inevitable snide and malicious comments being made behind her back.
Justice was carried out eventually, maybe not as recognised by the judicial system but it seemed appropriate to me.

I can't even begin to understand what it must be like for a woman to be the victim of a sex crime, to be raped or to feel trapped in a sexually abusive relationship.
I can sympathise but i'll never be able to empathise.

People can try to take the moral high ground and defend Brand and whine about his alleged public trial by media.
But as I've said previously, he was the very epitome of a media whore - you reap what you sow.
And there can be no doubting he was incredibly misogynistic and emotionally abusive to many of his 'conquests'.

I strongly believe in innocent until proven guilty, but I'm struggling to have any sympathy whatsoever for Brand.
The legal procedure will take its due course and if deemed appropriate both his victims and he will have their day in court.
If a jury of his peers find him guilty I hope he gets lifed off - as I do with all perpetrators of sex crimes.
If he is innocent then he will walk free....but the world will always know that he is a morally repugnant human being.

If he is innocent rnt, he will walk free? You do realise its been 20 years right? I will be suprised if this does go to court because there is no evidence! But his life will be in the mud, so he is not walking free after this!

I'm the media, they had stuck his photo alongside Jimmy saville! Not one person on mainstream media are saying "hang on! We have to be careful here because countless of celebs have been accused of terrible things like rape, and actually were innocent"

It's all bloody one sided, and that is wrong on do many levels!

This is a coordinated attack from mainstream media in my eyes!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Did you miss his link to Saville?

Doesn't matter if it was 20 or 30 years ago.

You don't know what evidence there might be. There hasn't even been a Police investigation carried out yet.

Yet you think there is 100% proof it's all fake?

I never said he is 100% innocent. I said it seems like s coordinated attack because its all one sided!

What link yo saville? Do you know how many celebs had links with saville, including the royal family. Does thst make everyone associated with savill a rapist or child molester?

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Well, there is his interview with Saville:

www.mirror.co.uk...

"Russell Brand was interviewing Jimmy Savile for his BBC radio show in 2007 when he offered up a naked personal assistant to give Savile a massage"

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

"the media, they had stuck his photo alongside Jimmy saville! Not one person on mainstream media are saying "hang on! We have to be careful here because countless of celebs have been accused of terrible things like rape, and actually were innocent"

Quite a few were guilty.

So there is that?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: tanstaafl

Have you seen the complete text?

Only what was shown in this thread, and neither you or I were there, so have no idea of any of the context either.

a reply to: tanstaafl

The accuser was and does?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Well, there is his interview with Saville:

www.mirror.co.uk...

"Russell Brand was interviewing Jimmy Savile for his BBC radio show in 2007 when he offered up a naked personal assistant to give Savile a massage"

Jesus christ! Russell brand is a comedian! You just have to watch him on TV to know ehat he is like! This interview proves zbsolutley nothing! And it's embarressing that people are using this as dome sort of way to prove he is a rapist predator!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: JumpTheGun76

"the media, they had stuck his photo alongside Jimmy saville! Not one person on mainstream media are saying "hang on! We have to be careful here because countless of celebs have been accused of terrible things like rape, and actually were innocent"

Quite a few were guilty.

So there is that?

Do not know what yoh are saying here. So, because some where guilty, thst means every celeb who is accused, we should assume they are guilty, even though evidence has not been shared on both sides, no one has heard brands side, but we should presume he is guilty! Cancel he tour, demonitze him on YouTube so he cannot make money, take all his stuff of live streams in the UK!

All this, and he has not found guilty of anything yet! While the media is slready calling these women victims, which means that they are calling brand guilty.

Also, the celebs who have been wrongly accused of rape or abuse, the stigma stays. Kevin space, freddie starring, cliff Richard, Lee Travis, to name a few!

But that's OK right?

The is a trial by mainstream media! 98% of the population believe what the mainstream media says! Sad fact, but true!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Also to add, the media ard talking about how great the dispatches team is! About 8 years ago, dispatches did a documentary about telephone fundraising! Of course in a negative way! It turned out they were not bring truful, and even manipulated witnesess to say stuff that suited their narrative.

Also, it's now come to light that dispatches approached a women about the alagations. The woman spent a weekend with brand and said he was lovely. Of course, they did not want anything in the show thst showed brand in a positive light, so did not show it!

Sorry, but I smell bs here!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The media are so desperate to drag his name through the mud thst they used a piece of footage of Brand on a talk show in America (i think). The host asked him how he was doing regarding his addictions and sex addiction, and he responded by saying what are you doing tonight? Everyone laughed, as does the host. Why? Because he is a comedian! It was a joke!

Are they bloody serious!

a reply to: Kurokage

Well spotted! I agree with all of that. So long as police get unaltered texts then their experts can decide. Moreover their experts can tell a jury. The underlying fear of course is that it doesn’t reach court. Then either guilty Brand gets away with rape, or innocent Brand doesn’t get to clear his name and all the public are left with are lies of a doctored message (if that were the case). He could take ch4 to court for liable to prove this, but umbrella guys expert seemed to think that was a bad idea even if innocent

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Dave Lee Travis was found guilty of indecent assault:

www.independent.co.uk...

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Oh, he's a comedian?

That's OK then.

Let's all laugh about this.

Did you find what he did to Andrew Sachs hilarious?

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

We'll, you asked why he was linked to Saville?

Did you find that interview funny?

a reply to: JumpTheGun76

Any danger of posting links?

Thanks in advance.