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Pelosi's Words from 2019 Are Now Being Used Against Democrats in Biden Impeachment Push

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posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Klassified

Interesting but I'm certain that someway, somehow we'll be told that these circumstances are (D)ifferent.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle
Because I see the same things in the GOP controlled state I live in.

To be more accurate, it is Democrat controlled cities in GOP controlled states. Georgia is a perfect example. Atlanta is an absolute mess but in no way defines the state.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Klassified

I just want to remind all the mouth breathers on the left, "NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT".




That’s true, but I just want to remind all the mouth breathers on the right that an impeachment hearing isn’t a judicial proceeding. An impeachment is a process prescribed by the Constitution, not by federal law, so your statement seems to be a non-sequitur.


Just let them enjoy a thread.

They already know this is illegal and the DoJ found Pelosi's actions illegal and she had to pursue a vote. They already know this, it's already been discussed, right here on ATS. Just don't engage and let them enjoy it.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
Just in case anyone has forgotten, this X quote by Byron York reminds us...

“On October 15, 2019, three weeks after unilaterally declaring an impeachment inquiry, Speaker Pelosi, backed by Adam Schiff, insisted there was no requirement to hold an authorizing vote and she would not hold an authorizing vote.”

A CNN article from 10-15-2019 reported Nancy saying...

“There’s no requirement that we have a vote so at this time we will not be having a vote and I’m very pleased with the thoughtfulness of our caucus with the path that we are on,” Pelosi said in news conference Tuesday evening, following a meeting with her caucus.

Now in 2023, McCarthy returns the favor...

Now, the Democrats are getting their just deserts. As Pelosi so flippantly dismissed McCarthy’s formal request for an impeachment inquiry vote back then, McCarthy is now doing the same to the former speaker and her Democratic counterparts. President Joe Biden’s fate is now at the mercy of a Republican majority.

Source
Some around these parts have insisted their needs to be a house vote for an impeachment inquiry. If you hold to that, you must admit Nancy and Adam were wrong, or you must admit it's only okay if the democrats do it.

Not that Joe is in any real danger from this impotent 118th congress, but what's good for the goose...


The BAMN people dont care
Their hypocrisy is bare for all to see



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: network dude

An impeachment is a process prescribed by the Constitution, not by federal law, so your statement seems to be a non-sequitur.

Nopey dope - since, you know, the Constitution is actually the Fundamental Law of the Land, and the basis of all federal statutory authority.
edit on 15-9-2023 by tanstaafl because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: network dude

The main problem with this is that it is done in areas controlled by the Democrats. If Republicans were to try the same thing, they would be called out on it and prosecuted for it.

You only have to look at what Georgia is doing to Trump to see that I'm right.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: The2Billies

I am a LEFTIST ON ATS. I see things that I dont agree with and/or know is untruthful daily. Just on this ONE site among many I visit.
EDIT (why is it always assumed you only visit CNN and MSNBC when you challenge something that goes against a right-wing talking point?)EDIT

So riddle me this, why are you seeing them only in Democratic controlled cities and states?

Because I see the same things in the GOP controlled state I live in.


And your list doesn't resemble the world, it resembles your personal world view and bias.


I assume you only watch CNN/MSNBC and only read the NY Times because you made an equivalent assumption about me.
So you accuse me and I accuse you of the same thing.
Something liberals aren't used to,
they are used to conservatives crawling in a hole and crying - sorry no more bud.
We are mad as he11
and not going to take the totalitarianism that is ruining our nation anymore.
We are going to use YOUR tactics and fight a fair fight on equal terms -
and that means using things Democrats said were legal and ok for them to do but not ok for Republicans to do.


What specifically do you want me to prove in the way of my list in my original writing?

It is up to you to prove me wrong, it is only up to me to prove I am right. Can't prove me wrong, then sorry, I am right.

P.S. I only used sources you would approve of to prove I am right,
I used 95% left leaning, Democratic fawning publications,
with the exception of Reuters who I hope you respect as neutral.

news.yahoo.com... The New York Times
Suing. Heckling. Cursing. NYC Protests Against Migrants Escalate

In Escalation, Adams Says Migrant Crisis ‘Will Destroy New York City’ NY Times (super liberal newspaper) www.nytimes.com...

San Francisco’s downtown has experienced a rise in its unhoused population. Thirty percent of the nation’s homeless population live in California, and most attribute their situations to the high cost of housing in the state, according to the results of a University of California, San Francisco survey released in June. The median sale price of a home in San Francisco is currently $1.32 million, making it 214% more expensive than the national average, according to data from Redfin. As San Francisco’s downtown area has emptied over the last three years, property crimes and retail thefts have risen, according to San Francisco Police Department data. Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla, whose corporate headquarters used to be in nearby Palo Alto, said in a recent tweet that San Francisco felt “post-apocalyptic.” CNN www.cnn.com...

In Fresno’s meth hell, there’s no antidote (CNN) www.cnn.com...

Record Number of Families Cross Southern Border Illegally in August The roughly 91,000 migrants who were arrested after crossing together as families exceeded a record set in May 2019, the height of the border crisis during the Trump administration. And that is just those arrested. www.nytimes.com...
biden.html

The federal government is investigating the possible human trafficking of children who cleaned slaughterhouses
There is no indication that the sanitation company is under investigation for trafficking the children who worked there. deadline.com...#! Hollywood News (left leaning)

Soaring rent, food costs keep U.S. inflation on front burner; labor market tight Reuters www.reuters.com...

August Inflation ReportPrice Pressures Remain Stubborn as Gas Pushes Up Inflation Rate www.nytimes.com... NY Times


U.S. government to end gas-powered vehicle purchases by 2035 under Biden order Reuters www.reuters.com...

when President Biden took office and the ongoing border surge began. Our preliminary estimate for February is 11.46 million. However, our January and February 2022 estimates are not substantially different from our January 2019 estimate of 11.48 million, before the pandemic began. The estimated size and growth of the illegal immigrant population are important because, unlike border apprehension figures, the number of illegal immigrants living in the country is what ultimately determines their impact. The CPS also shows that the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal together), reached 46.7 million in February 2022, a new record high, and an increase of 1.7 million since January 2021. cis.org... (Center for Immigration Studies)

California moves to ban natural gas furnaces and heaters by 2030 www.latimes.com... LA Times, left leaning

California moves toward ban on gas lawn mowers and leaf blowers www.latimes.com... LA Times (keep in mind the Democrats are in full control of CA government and what they do reflects the will, wishes and policies of the entire Democratic Party.

Sep 30, 2022Food, gas, rent: High prices force Americans to make tough choices. America's aching economy is forcing tough choices. How people are 'barely making it' work. And this was written a year ago, it is worse now. www.usatoday.com... -high-prices%2F7951433001%2F USA Today

DC, VT, NJ, CO and NM allow unrestricted abortion, including a healthy uterus owner aborting a full term healthy fetus. www.axios.com... (Axios is a left leaning publication) DC, controlled by Democrats, VT and NJ are also fullly Democratic Party states, CO and NM are very left leaning states with a near majority of Democrats and Democrats hold all major offices.


edit on 9/15/23 by The2Billies because: format



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified


“On October 15, 2019, three weeks after unilaterally declaring an impeachment inquiry, Speaker Pelosi, backed by Adam Schiff, insisted there was no requirement to hold an authorizing vote and she would not hold an authorizing vote.”



The left consistently pulls things out of thin air to use as weapons for the moment while not understanding they can then be used right back on them. Take the nuclear option that Reed created and then the Democrats complained when the Republicans used it right back on them years later.

Every stupidass point the Democrats have used on Trump for many years is now all fair game to come right back on them.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:42 PM
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posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Klassified

I just want to remind all the mouth breathers on the left, "NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT".




That’s true, but I just want to remind all the mouth breathers on the right that an impeachment hearing isn’t a judicial proceeding. An impeachment is a process prescribed by the Constitution, not by federal law, so your statement seems to be a non-sequitur.


Just let them enjoy a thread.

They already know this is illegal and the DoJ found Pelosi's actions illegal and she had to pursue a vote. They already know this, it's already been discussed, right here on ATS. Just don't engage and let them enjoy it.

Is this not what I said at the end of the OP?


Some around these parts have insisted their needs to be a house vote for an impeachment inquiry. If you hold to that, you must admit Nancy and Adam were wrong, or you must admit it's only okay if the democrats do it.

So you admit Pelosi and Schiff were wrong? Good.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: ColeYounger

You should make a meme with those same words but with that picture of Trump and the Saudis with hands on that globe!
Actually could you do that and send it to me via PM. I don't know how to make memes.
Well maybe not the same wording but get creative!


edit on 15-9-2023 by Stopstealingmycountry because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany

They already know this is illegal and the DoJ found Pelosi's actions illegal and she had to pursue a vote.


Since you have made the claim sure you won't mind
providing a source for this, thanks in advance.

Especially the part "the DOJ found Pelosi's actions illegal"

Apparently Time Magazine assigned Nancy Pelosi to the likes of fringe ATS,
on par with antiflourideation, and UFO's. LOL!


Conventional wisdom in Washington tends to treat impeachment as a fringe crusade, on a par with campaigns by antifluoridation activists or UFO enthusiasts, and views Pelosi as right to resist this momentum.
time.com...




edit on 15-9-2023 by burntheships because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Why should anyone of us play by the rules when the evil left obviously isn't?




posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 02:57 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Klassified

Why should anyone of us play by the rules when the evil left obviously isn't?


Because we're better than they are.

At the same time, if we don't play down and dirty, we may not win this war.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 03:15 PM
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originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Klassified

I just want to remind all the mouth breathers on the left, "NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT".




That’s true, but I just want to remind all the mouth breathers on the right that an impeachment hearing isn’t a judicial proceeding. An impeachment is a process prescribed by the Constitution, not by federal law, so your statement seems to be a non-sequitur.


This is the Bed your side made ,So sleep in it .

The Office of the President is worth nothing more than a Baseless impeachment with no evidence of any wrong doing at all , BUT then comes the Scary Truth ....Old Joe is Guilty as sin and everyone knows it.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Klassified

Why should anyone of us play by the rules when the evil left obviously isn't?



Since we're at war, we must be efficient, smart, and overwhelm the enemy.

Anti-MAGA individuals will receive the Hiroshima/Nagasaki level of punishment.




posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Klassified

Why should anyone of us play by the rules when the evil left obviously isn't?


Because we're better than they are.

At the same time, if we don't play down and dirty, we may not win this war.


Sadly history is replete with better people who lost.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: The2Billies

Seriously dig yourself out of what ever media hole you are in and expose yourself to more sources. Most of your points are half-truths spread so thin by partisanship they dont even resemble the world around us.

Seems reasonably accurate to me. Maybe you should expose yourself to more sources?


I do expose myself to other outlooks and sources, that's why I am still trawling around ATS's Live feed which is more or less a GOP spam feed.

ATS was not like this in the past but thats a story for a different time.



If only you would have made more threads instead of bitching in ones you dont' agree with.


..ATS could have been a better place for you.



Typical leftist, bitching about a system they had no hand in creating but will go out of their way to destroy. (While also not building anything else.)



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Klassified

Why should anyone of us play by the rules when the evil left obviously isn't?



Because we don't have the stomach for it.

Values, hypocrisy, lying etc....they mean something to some.



posted on Sep, 15 2023 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany




Just don't engage and let them enjoy it.


That certainly is your MO.

Which reflects upon you and your opinions as disingenuous and bereft of any integrity.




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