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posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: oddscreenname
a reply to: quintessentone

Yes. And the research says it's still biological and the brain can be shaped to any gender you want. You haven't shown otherwise.


It's bias and there are multiple studies that refute it.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: marg6043
ayou just wonder why the trans agenda is been pushed soo much, .


Yeah it's weird. This woke TRANS crap ... it's in a wave across the country.
Being pushed and shoved down people's throats. And it's so freak'n stupid.
TRANS is a rare disorder .. not something to have parades and celebrations about.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

I agree saying it's neurology not biology is bias and refuted. Glad you agree to.... Unless you have a source???



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.


What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.


What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?


The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Christian right bandwagon thoughts can never be disregarded when discussing topics such as these.

That's your 'woke tolerance' showing again. Nothing about this speaks to 'christian right bandwagon'. This is about the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION refusing to answer a simple yes or no question. And it is very simple. Can men play against women or not, yes or no. They refuse to answer. Typical politicians.


Am I awake, yes, and that is the correct term.

They did answer, it's complicated and it is complicated because it has to do with when transitioning started (before puberty) and how that affected the person's physical state before after puberty. Not only that but each specific sport utilizes different physical attributes, which, may or may not have been retained by the transperson.

These are the complications that need to be investigated and if it is found that any physical advantages have been 'carried over' then I agree that this is an advantage over others and that person should be disqualified.


Children don't transition into anything especially before puberty, children play at life because they have no concept of it, they just soak up their environment, so when you consider that schools are actively encourage vulnerable children that haven't developed any concept of themselves or their environment to transition, can you see that at best it's short sighted and immature, and at worst evil?


Generalizations won't get us anywhere.


Who's generalising? children play at life until they reach an age where they don't, that's why they're targeted so young in regards to transitioning, like I said it's short sighted and immature at best to be encouraging children to transition, evil at worst.


Some children play at life others suffer crisis.


Children only suffer crisis if it's imposed upon them otherwise they are being children, no child on planet earth has ever had a crisis in regards to their gender unless it's intentionally suggested to them that they have one because children have no concept of gender????



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Christian right bandwagon thoughts can never be disregarded when discussing topics such as these.

That's your 'woke tolerance' showing again. Nothing about this speaks to 'christian right bandwagon'. This is about the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION refusing to answer a simple yes or no question. And it is very simple. Can men play against women or not, yes or no. They refuse to answer. Typical politicians.


Am I awake, yes, and that is the correct term.

They did answer, it's complicated and it is complicated because it has to do with when transitioning started (before puberty) and how that affected the person's physical state before after puberty. Not only that but each specific sport utilizes different physical attributes, which, may or may not have been retained by the transperson.

These are the complications that need to be investigated and if it is found that any physical advantages have been 'carried over' then I agree that this is an advantage over others and that person should be disqualified.


Children don't transition into anything especially before puberty, children play at life because they have no concept of it, they just soak up their environment, so when you consider that schools are actively encourage vulnerable children that haven't developed any concept of themselves or their environment to transition, can you see that at best it's short sighted and immature, and at worst evil?


Generalizations won't get us anywhere.


Who's generalising? children play at life until they reach an age where they don't, that's why they're targeted so young in regards to transitioning, like I said it's short sighted and immature at best to be encouraging children to transition, evil at worst.


Some children play at life others suffer crisis.


Children only suffer crisis if it's imposed upon them otherwise they are being children, no child on planet earth has ever had a crisis in regards to their gender unless it's intentionally suggested to them that they have one because children have no concept of gender????


They only know how they feel about things and if a boy wants to dress like a girl and play with dolls and the parents' reactions are in opposition, that creates crisis within the child.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: quintessentone



You picked a source specifically that caters to your bias.


How do you know my bias if you do pls tell me as i don´t ? to me child is a child and has right to grow up in their own terms, to study and learn in their own speed by exploring the World which is around them. What you seem to provide to children is something they have no say, forcing them to pick something instead of making their own decisions.

Questions for you
Do you see anything wrong what school does to kids when they are forcing woke ideas ? And if you think it was a right thing to do, we would like to see your answer why it was so ? What are parental rights ?
Do you think that teachers etc who spend time in huge class room actually knows everything about the child they are teaching ? There are multiple children. Which one possibly knows more about this child, family and parents who have seen this child from the day one or the teacher who spend just a fraction of his/hers time with the child.. remember there are other children in the classroom too.

edit on 30-8-2023 by dollukka because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.


What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?


The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.


There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:45 AM
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Does the White House have any say in the matter?

In other countries its up to the sport governing body to make such rules for pro leagues, competitions etc.. rather than government dictating on stuff they know nothing about.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

So it's only acceptable to select a bias source if it comes from you?

Talk about a hypocrite



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
The Christian right bandwagon thoughts can never be disregarded when discussing topics such as these.

That's your 'woke tolerance' showing again. Nothing about this speaks to 'christian right bandwagon'. This is about the BIDEN ADMINISTRATION refusing to answer a simple yes or no question. And it is very simple. Can men play against women or not, yes or no. They refuse to answer. Typical politicians.


Am I awake, yes, and that is the correct term.

They did answer, it's complicated and it is complicated because it has to do with when transitioning started (before puberty) and how that affected the person's physical state before after puberty. Not only that but each specific sport utilizes different physical attributes, which, may or may not have been retained by the transperson.

These are the complications that need to be investigated and if it is found that any physical advantages have been 'carried over' then I agree that this is an advantage over others and that person should be disqualified.


Children don't transition into anything especially before puberty, children play at life because they have no concept of it, they just soak up their environment, so when you consider that schools are actively encourage vulnerable children that haven't developed any concept of themselves or their environment to transition, can you see that at best it's short sighted and immature, and at worst evil?


Generalizations won't get us anywhere.


Who's generalising? children play at life until they reach an age where they don't, that's why they're targeted so young in regards to transitioning, like I said it's short sighted and immature at best to be encouraging children to transition, evil at worst.


Some children play at life others suffer crisis.


Children only suffer crisis if it's imposed upon them otherwise they are being children, no child on planet earth has ever had a crisis in regards to their gender unless it's intentionally suggested to them that they have one because children have no concept of gender????


They only know how they feel about things and if a boy wants to dress like a girl and play with dolls and the parents' reactions are in opposition, that creates crisis within the child.


No it doesn't because a boy who want's to dress as a girl and play with dolls has no concept of gender, he's just playing in his own little world, he's behaving like a child, not being able to dress as a girl will have the same effect on him as not being able to play in the mud, just kids behaving like kids is all.

Children play at life so if it's suggested to them they can be a different sex to the sex they are, they will play at that too.
edit on 30-8-2023 by Cwantas because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.


What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?


The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.


There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?


Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.


What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?


There's no real science to back it. They are basing it off of the same 6 or 7 studies done by a few researchers. Each study had different results and had under 100 participants by the studies end in each case. There was not enough data to come to any conclusion.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

So it's only acceptable to select a bias source if it comes from you?

Talk about a hypocrite


So here we are, your sources are bias and my sources are bias and let's call the whole thing off.



posted on Aug, 30 2023 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: quintessentone



Neuroscience studies have results that explain this phenomenon beyond question.



wrong at best it is questionable, here is a one study,


Although the evidence is presently inconsistent, it suggests that while the brain structure, at least before hormonal treatment, is more similar to sex assigned at birth, it may shift with hormonal treatment. By contrast, on “sex-stereotypical tasks,” brain function may already be more similar to gender identity in transgender persons, also before receiving gender-affirming hormone treatment. However, studies continue to be limited by small sample sizes and new initiatives are needed to further elucidate the neurobiology of a ‘brain gender’ (sex-dimorphic change according to one’s gender).


Neuroscience in transgender people: an update


Yes, that study does not state the brain structure MRI shows any transgendered changes during fetal development but on a cis brain and resulting effects with hormone treatment.


What's a cis brain, do you mean a normal brain against an abnormal transgender brain?


There is no normal or abnormal, just a toss of the DNA dice in that regards.


Yes there is, an abnormal brain would believe they are of a different sex to the sex they were born, a normal brain wouldn't, so does a cis brain constitute a normal brain?


Again, you can disagree but it's a DNA toss of the dice.


Transgender people are homosexuals, a guy who feels like a women is a gay guy and a woman who feels like a man is a gay woman, so the whole transgender phenomenon is based on sexual preference and we're imposing that on our kids, very sick.


Where is your source for that?


I'm conscious of my environment, if a man is so convinced he is a woman that he's willing to have surgery, then his sexual preference will be a part of that determination.


Well you do your reality and I'll do the science thing. Good luck with that.


What science are you talking about and what does science have to do with a man who feels like a woman being sexually attracted to men? What nonsense are you talking about?


The science of transgendered brains at the fetal developmental stages.


There is no science on the development of a transgender brain at the fetal stage?


Let's put it this way there is proof of hormonal factors affecting brain structure changes during transgendered people's brains during the fetal stage.


So drugs can effect a foetus in this regard.
edit on 30-8-2023 by Cwantas because: (no reason given)



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