What’s wrong with Trump saying find votes?

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originally posted by: FlyersFan


Bottom line - Trump said to find votes. Al Gore did the same thing with Florida.
If Biden hadn't 'won', Biden would have been saying the same thing too.
All those who lose triple check and recount and look for votes.
This is nothing.

I think Stacey Abrams was the worst, but Gore and Hilary both claimed recounts, fraud etc. But it was OK with them.

Here is some more context in the call. As everyone can see Trump was concerned with the way the election was run, lots of questions. As you read these and others in the call Trump didn't say invent 11,000 votes, or make up 11,000, or magically "find" 11,000 etc. He was saying throughout the whole call that there were major irregularities and they only needed to account for 11,000 real votes.

"But we have a number of things. We have at least 2 or 3 — anywhere from 250-300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn’t been checked. We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you’ll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure that’s going to happen."

"Another tremendous number. We’re going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number but its in the 50s of thousands— and that’s people that went to vote and they were told they can’t vote because they’ve already been voted for. And it’s a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number’s large. We’ll have it for you. But it’s much more than the number of 11,779 that’s — The current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? That’s something I think everyone — at least that’s’ a number that everyone agrees on."

"We had, I believe it’s about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren’t on the voter registration list, so it’s 4,502 who voted but they weren’t on the voter registration roll which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address voters. The address was vacant and they’re not allowed to be counted. That’s 18,325.

Smaller number — you had 904 who only voted where they had just a P.O. — a post office box number — and they had a post office box number and that’s not allowed. We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you me and everybody else."

"Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, they went early in the morning they went to the table with the black robe, the black shield and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before the table was put there. I think it was, Brad you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before and then it was stuffed with votes.

They weren’t in an official voter box, but they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases but they weren’t in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it but slow motion and it was magnified many times over and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.

You had out-of-state voters. They voted in Georgia but they were from out of state, of 4,925. You had absentee ballots sent to vacant, they were absentee ballots sent to vacant addresses. They had nothing on them about addresses, that’s 2,326.

And you had drop boxes, which is very bad. You had drop boxes that were picked up. We have photographs and we have affidavits from many people.

I don’t know if you saw the hearings, but you have drop boxes where the box was picked up but not delivered for three days. So all sorts of things could have happened to that box including, you know, putting in the votes that you wanted. So there were many infractions and the bottom line is, many, many times the 11,779 margin that they said we lost by — we had vast I mean the state is in turmoil over this.

And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it,"

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: FlyersFan

True, but ...
Why you are a Biden voter is beyond me.

No it’s not.

I’ve stated multiple times I am anti-Trump.

I voted against Trump.

Biden will have his legacy just like every president before him.

What he did or didn’t do is documented. Not hearsay in ATS.

So what you're saying is that no matter who was on the Democrat ticket, you'd have voted "AGAINST" Trump?

So, Biden really didn't matter.

Putin, and the Devil himself, could have run against Trump and they'd have your vote!

We see you, comrade! 😉

Your words.

Not mine.

You keep saying this.

Do you understand that it is your very own logic?

You do know how logic works, right?

Yes, I’m very logical.

I had a bipolar, alcoholic mother. You can’t feed into emotions or you lose yourself.

I actually support a voting system that would help weed out emotional voting.

But don’t ever try to speak for me.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Carter was a fiscal conservative, social liberal as am I.

So is Trump in many ways. I think there is a lot he did that many do not know and do not care to find out because they hate him on an unnatural level. We need to remember that Trump took out Hilary who was to be our first female President that they were going to wear like a badge of honor forever and I think that plays much into the level of hate we saw from day one of his presidency. Trump's attacks were counterpunches...

As quick as the left is to demonize Trump seemly daily they also conveniently overlook decades of wrong that both Biden and Hilary/Bill did. For me, that is the frustrating part of all this.

You seem like a smart guy.

Why you’re part of the Trump cult is beyond me.

He’s a narcissistic grifter.

In lists of presidential rankings he’s in the bottom 3.

Carter is 26th.

Your hate is blinding you. There is really no room for pure hate in voting. You really should do some homework on Trump instead of wearing blinders. You might be surprised at the things he has done. You are hating a man based on nothing more than leftist opinions and what the msm has told you and its sad that the world has come to this. You hate him so much you refuse to see anything he has one. I am not even done reading these threads but had to respond after seeing the many hate filled posts you have put here. You are clearly not seeing things from any type of objective point of view. Never has there been a man more attacked in politics who clearly has a choice to run or not to run. He cares more about America and our way of life than he does about his reputation. You are barreling head first into a two class system with your prize being pugilism and you refuse to see it due to hate. You hate one man so much and the sad part is you cannot truthfully name anything he has done to warrant it. Just "Orange man bad". Its truly disgusting.

originally posted by: TheTardis

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Carter was a fiscal conservative, social liberal as am I.

So is Trump in many ways. I think there is a lot he did that many do not know and do not care to find out because they hate him on an unnatural level. We need to remember that Trump took out Hilary who was to be our first female President that they were going to wear like a badge of honor forever and I think that plays much into the level of hate we saw from day one of his presidency. Trump's attacks were counterpunches...

As quick as the left is to demonize Trump seemly daily they also conveniently overlook decades of wrong that both Biden and Hilary/Bill did. For me, that is the frustrating part of all this.

You seem like a smart guy.

Why you’re part of the Trump cult is beyond me.

He’s a narcissistic grifter.

In lists of presidential rankings he’s in the bottom 3.

Carter is 26th.

Your hate is blinding you. There is really no room for pure hate in voting. You really should do some homework on Trump instead of wearing blinders. You might be surprised at the things he has done. You are hating a man based on nothing more than leftist opinions and what the msm has told you and its sad that the world has come to this. You hate him so much you refuse to see anything he has one. I am not even done reading these threads but had to respond after seeing the many hate filled posts you have put here. You are clearly not seeing things from any type of objective point of view. Never has there been a man more attacked in politics who clearly has a choice to run or not to run. He cares more about America and our way of life than he does about his reputation. You are barreling head first into a two class system with your prize being pugilism and you refuse to see it due to hate. You hate one man so much and the sad part is you cannot truthfully name anything he has done to warrant it. Just "Orange man bad". Its truly disgusting.

I post simple logic independent statements.

Then “you guys” go off on ballistic emotional diatribes because I don’t fall in line.

Here’s your mirror.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: FlyersFan

True, but ...
Why you are a Biden voter is beyond me.

No it’s not.

I’ve stated multiple times I am anti-Trump.

I voted against Trump.

Biden will have his legacy just like every president before him.

What he did or didn’t do is documented. Not hearsay in ATS.

So what you're saying is that no matter who was on the Democrat ticket, you'd have voted "AGAINST" Trump?

So, Biden really didn't matter.

Putin, and the Devil himself, could have run against Trump and they'd have your vote!

We see you, comrade! 😉

Your words.

Not mine.

You keep saying this.

Do you understand that it is your very own logic?

You do know how logic works, right?

Yes, I’m very logical.

That's funny since every single post you make here runs counter to that claim.

originally posted by: Annee

Then “you guys” go off on ballistic emotional diatribes because I don’t fall in line.

Here’s your mirror.

But you suggest you truly hate the man, is that logical? Is this hyperbole of hate for the man from the left logical, or just a hive mentality? Every liberal I talk to who truly hates the man can't come up with any real reason outside of the mainstream talking points the woke liberals push, and even with the talking points there is no debate on them either as the left doesn't want to discuss any of it that might put a scratch in their self-created narratives.

Talk about cult mentality...

originally posted by: Annee


I post simple logic independent statements.

Then “you guys” go off on ballistic emotional diatribes because I don’t fall in line.

Here’s your mirror.

You completely deflected everything said. I didnt go on an emotional rant. I simply and logically pointed out that you are refusing and will continue to refuse to look at anything "real" that Trump has done. You are going to stick to the narrative given to you by the democrat party. You are basing your complete and utter hate on falsehoods and I suspect that your entire reason for being would be in doubt if you ever realized the truth. Entirely too many people see this as a game. Your team vs My team. its like sports. Maybe your a football fan and you root for your team and hate a player on another team. Then your team picks up that player and 5 more you hate. Well now you like them and you refuse to realize your team has people you hate on it and you still hate the other team for no reason. People need to realize that our country is at stake. Your vote has real consequences and real families and businesses are going broke and peoples lives are being ruined because the democrats hate Trump. We are literally burning down our country because people that use to love Trump now hate trump and are scared to death that he will hold them accountable for their crimes.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

Then “you guys” go off on ballistic emotional diatribes because I don’t fall in line.

Here’s your mirror.

But you suggest you truly hate the man, is that logical? Is this hyperbole of hate for the man from the left logical, or just a hive mentality? Every liberal I talk to who truly hates the man can't come up with any real reason outside of the mainstream talking points the woke liberals push, and even with the talking points there is no debate on them either as the left doesn't want to discuss any of it that might out a scratch in their self-created narratives.

Talk about cult mentality...

I do not post emotional rants. I post simple statements.

When did I use the word hate?

I think Trump is a narcissistic, opportunist, grifter.

The only ridiculous over dramatic emotions are from “you guys” in response to my non-emotional statements.

originally posted by: TheTardis
People need to realize that our country is at stake. Your vote has real consequences and real families and businesses are going broke and peoples lives are being ruined because the democrats hate Trump. We are literally burning down our country because people that use to love Trump now hate trump and are scared to death that he will hold them accountable for their crimes.

Trust No One | The Truth Is Out There,

One thing I have seen every time I have posted factual information about Trump's achievements is they are always 100% completely ignored by the left posters like they were never written.

My favorite I still remember is one liberal who told me Trump failed because he didn't get his wall built...lol geez

The man had to crawl through crap up to his waist to get what he did get done. Liberal Congress stopped him at every step, but he still got a lot done even with that huge level of resistance as the left didn't want him to achieve one thing no matter how good for the country it might have been. Today we get to live in a mass wave of illegals and fentanyl and the left is like "Nothing to see here, move along".

ZERO freak'en logic...

originally posted by: Annee
When did I use the word hate?

I think Trump is a narcissistic, opportunist, grifter.

The only ridiculous over dramatic emotions are from “you guys” in response to my non-emotional statements.

You put in a lot of effort without having any emotional feelings in this and without even putting in 5 minutes of effort to actually see what he has done.

Would you vote for Trump when Biden is drooling?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
When did I use the word hate?

I think Trump is a narcissistic, opportunist, grifter.

The only ridiculous over dramatic emotions are from “you guys” in response to my non-emotional statements.

You put in a lot of effort without having any emotional feelings in this and without even putting in 5 minutes of effort to actually see what he has done.

Would you vote for Trump when Biden is drooling?

I state my opinion. That’s all.

As said — the crazy comes from “you guys”.

I’ve even been told I can’t post because I don’t agree with the majority here.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
When did I use the word hate?

I think Trump is a narcissistic, opportunist, grifter.

The only ridiculous over dramatic emotions are from “you guys” in response to my non-emotional statements.

You put in a lot of effort without having any emotional feelings in this and without even putting in 5 minutes of effort to actually see what he has done.

Would you vote for Trump when Biden is drooling?

I state my opinion. That’s all.

As said — the crazy comes from “you guys”.

I’ve even been told I can’t post because I don’t agree with the majority here.

You dont have to type the word hate. It is dripping off of every comment. "Us Guys" can hear the tone in your words. Its very clear you blindly hate the man. You dont need to say it.

a reply to: Annee

It wasn't a mod that told you that, so why do you care?

originally posted by: Annee

I state my opinion. That’s all.

As said — the crazy comes from “you guys”.

I’ve even been told I can’t post because I don’t agree with the majority here.

It seems you do not want to debate your opinion very much. ANNEE: "Trump is everything bad!" OK let's talk about it and weigh the good with the bad, we can do the same with Biden or any other President. ANNEE: "I don't have time, but I will always be anti-Trump no matter what"

Well Annee thank you for your opinion... I hope Biden is in office again and Fs up even more. I'm at least bulletproof to whatever President we get, but that evil little kid in me would love to see the liberals feel their anti-Trump pain through 4 more years of Biden.

I'm surely enjoying watching Portland OR just crumble before my eyes in a pile of homeless. drugs and crime poo. Something about it makes me all giggly inside.

a reply to: Annee

You post simplistic statement, you mean.

originally posted by: TheTardis

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee
When did I use the word hate?

I think Trump is a narcissistic, opportunist, grifter.

The only ridiculous over dramatic emotions are from “you guys” in response to my non-emotional statements.

You put in a lot of effort without having any emotional feelings in this and without even putting in 5 minutes of effort to actually see what he has done.

Would you vote for Trump when Biden is drooling?

I state my opinion. That’s all.

As said — the crazy comes from “you guys”.

I’ve even been told I can’t post because I don’t agree with the majority here.

You dont have to type the word hate. It is dropping off of every comment. "Us Guys" can hear the tone in your words. Its very clear you blindly hate the man. You dont need to say it.

Now I’m being interpreted.

You know — cuz “you guys” know me better than I know myself. s/

BACK ON TOPIC

What’s wrong with Trump saying find votes?

a reply to: Annee

What possible convoluted backasswards voting scheme is going to rid us of emotional voters? lol

originally posted by: Annee

What’s wrong with Trump saying find votes?

I posted a good number of comments from his call a few of my posts back. Read them and then tell me what you think he meant here. Like air quote "find" votes out of thin air (as in invent them) or was he worried there were many voting irregularities that could account for 100,000s of invalid votes for Biden?

We constantly see a single line pulled out of context and then assumptions are made as to what Trump wanted done, and here once again just like the Ukraine phone call the left invents an assumption and then officially charges him with a crime, so nice and neat don't you think?

Pages of back and forth claiming the other is being the emotional, illogical one.

It's a Silly ol' argument all over again.