What are your views on death?

originally posted by: LittleJake
Sheol!

Yes. From what I've read 'the void' or 'the nothingness' is a lot like sheol.
Sometimes I think death will be like that. Kinda scary.
Most of the time I think it'll be meeting God and being free of this human cage.
I suppose that makes me feel better so that's why I think it.

originally posted by: ancientlight
I've been watching alot of NDE videos on youtube (NDE diaries channel) and it just seems so much better than this forced existance called 'life'. No pain, no sadness, no lonliness, no fear, no dread , no emptiness, no despair , no feelings of hoplessness, no more stress and wories. The list goes on. Life is absolutely not worth it in my opinion. I stick it out for my loved ones. For now I endure. Death is the only thing I look forward to and wish for.

I can relate to this post.

I have read up on a lot of NDE stories and used to think that they had a window into the next worl. . Many of them sounded wonderful. But then I read up on D M T and the chemicals the brain/body release at death and wonder if the NDE stories are just a kind of death psychosis. And I read on a few threads elsewhere that most people who have NDEs go to 'the void' and 'nothingness'. The stories about beautiful places and meeting dead loved ones doesn't come up as often as 'the void'.

So now I'm not sure what to think.

originally posted by: halfoldman
Everything smells like roses and incense, yet I burnt no incense for three days.

I've had that happen a few times. 'The smell of roses' when nothing was there. In Catholic circles that's considered a sign that angels or Mary are there. It's a spiritual thing. Unless it's a brain. Sorry but there is a brain glitch that can happen to cause that as well.

Bit of a cheeky mushroom there.

I know what nature gives me, they obviously didn't.

Well, having a physical body - flakes, and ear-wax, and yeah it's pretty disgusting.

Men, I think, cope with it a better than women?

Although, it's woman that gives birth.

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind
I think we should treasure life and try to enjoy it, not rush head on toward death.

I took this picture two days ago, on August 22nd, 2023. It was an automobile accident that happened a couple minutes ahead of me. Three people in a car rushing to get home, passed another car on a curve and hit a semi truck head on. They were pronounced dead at the scene. I just don't know if it was due to the impact or if they burned up in their car. This could have been avoided:

After all, the definition of life is living.


TCB

Wow, either that is a really tiny car, or a gigantic truck. Maybe both.
I remember having small car accidents, how it just ends the day and everything that you had scheduled and planned just disappears. Stand around for an hour or two with the cops and the other people. Burn a bunch more time trying to get towed, end up at some random tow lot in the boonies. Figure out how to get to work or home.
Now imagine if you end up dead. Everything you had planned, had going on, is done forever and forgotten. Everything you own ceases to even exist, gets thrown away or sold, no longer part of your life and your interests. Same with your people. Life moves along without you being a part of it, your place in it just fades away …… poof !
Now that’s sad and sobering.

originally posted by: stevieray
Life moves along without you being a part of it, your place in it just fades away …… poof !

That's the truth of it, isn't it?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: stevieray
Life moves along without you being a part of it, your place in it just fades away …… poof !

That's the truth of it, isn't it?

I do like the point that was made about you still being around for a while in the effect you had on people and things. Hopefully we’ll all be remembered fondly for being nice to some people, and for positive effects we had on things that keep moving along without us.
“Old Bill really made this suck a lot less when he was in charge ! Here here !”

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: crayzeed
He always said that there is nothing there, just darkness.

This is called 'the void' in some forums I've been to. Nothingness.
You cease to exist. 'you' disappear. True death. The end.

Ah, but that's the point isn't it. To know there is nothing there, a void, you must remember ie, you still have a form of entity to hold that memory.

You may make of this what you will. But first know I am a Christian. I hate no one. Not even my enemies. I make mistakes and do things wrong, but I know God and love him.

This said. I also am a Registered Nurse. Retired now, my wife also is a nurse and retired.

I worked hospice for some time in my practice. Every patient I took care of.....died.
It was expected and many of the people I took care of knew the time frame of their death...at least approximately. I will tell you what I saw and this is first hand.

There are only three ways to die.
1. Quickly....unexpectedly with no time to consider anything.
2. Some people die hard. With great fear
3. Some people die easily with no fear at all.

Dying quickly gives you no time at all to consider your life or how you lived it, and consequently what may be your circumstance afterwards.

Those who had great fear often come to the realization that they may have been mistaken concerning God and the afterlife. Some of these people would ask me to pray with them, or ask for ministers to come speak with them, and often times they were at peace afterwards with the fear mostly gone....Some were so stubborn that they decided to die with their fear...they died hard.

Those who died easily did not need me to pray with them, nor anyone else. They were ready. They knew what awaited them and where they were going. They simply had no fear at all.

I hated hospice and after loosing everyone I cared for for so long. I retired.
The experience left a great big hole right in the middle of me ...such great loss.

Three years ago I got cancer. Dr told me I was going to die. I was not afraid at all.
not even a little. I know death. Seen it first hand.
But then....
I didn't die. I suppose God has something he still wants me to do. So my view on death is all first hand.
It can be hard or easy, and it all depends on your heart in this life, whether or not you fear the next. Nearly all those I took care of knew there was a next life. Just a transition. Your actions in this life will determine your transition into the next. You don't really die.
The heart in the body may stop beating but the heart of the soul will not.

originally posted by: stevieray
a reply to: tanstaafl
And I LOVE the movie. Besides being the greatest comic ever, one of the greatest actors ever, I think Williams should be lauded for the greatest collection of movies ever that explore the human condition. He dug deep into every type of psyche, beautifully.

My opinion as well, it was just so tragic that he was never able to overcome his own personal hell of depression or whatever else was going on in that brilliant mind.

I look forward to death preferably later in life. But if I have to die in some kind of kinetic event due to circumstances, then it is what it is. My personal belief is rebirth. Peaceful darkness, and then the spark finds a new host. The spark exists as energy, and therefore is instantly and continuously connected to all knowledge of the universe including all memories of existence by all who have lived previously while it exists in a free energy state. When it finds a new host, the matter which traps the energy now has limitations for all that universal knowledge and memories. As a result of having to develop the ability to live and move in a trapped state within matter the access to that knowledge and memories is gone due to the memory capacity of the new cpu (brain) of the biological entity which hosts it.

It has to focus on developing cognitive abilities, motor functions and speech. Therefore, no room for the old memories of the universe. And that there is my opinion of death, and to an extent life as well.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Woody Allen once said, "I'm not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens."

I plan on dying thinking about having dinner with my grandparents, I miss them.

I'm older (64) than probably most of you guys and gals and let me explain why I think life is so precious. My business partner had a massive stroke 3 1/2 months ago. I found him, it was a business day that began as so many others. Long story short he'd lain in a pool of his own # and vomit and other bodily distress expulsions from 7 the day before until we got to him at 10 the next morning. Here's the thing; wed had several talks, becaue we're old, about our end of life wishes. I never want to die. Not scared, I'm thinking I got right with my higher power many years ago and have faced near death as I had to deal with the cancer thing, stage 3 and 4, rare type, that he doctors were telling me make plans, if you get my drift. So what I'm saying os staring death head on is a thing I've done. Back to the point-He had said to me several times during our conversations of being old and knowing what is inevitable he wanted to just go. As it is now he can't talk, eat, walk, feed himself, drink, etc. His whole right side is done. Not a little, all. Myself I said I don't car if all that is left is a brain stem somehow kept alive with tubes, wires and all stuffed into a bell jar. I enjoy being alive, the state of being alive means nothing. I am so long as I am. I would really love to hear the opinions of the community. Also, did I do the right thing. I was scheduled to be off that day., but since I had no plans I called anyway in case there was someething to do (construction). Paramedic said as he was cleaning up if I'd let him alone for 4-5 more hours he'd be dead. If I'd tken the day off would he be better off or did I condemn him to a life of "half"?

a reply to: LAUGHING-CAT
There is no right answer for that question. It is an answer that will differ as much as the perspectives laid out here in this thread by others. Better to debate that with the gentleman you mentioned. Only the two of you can work that answer out with any sincerity.

As Nick Cave sings:

originally posted by: crayzeed

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: crayzeed
He always said that there is nothing there, just darkness.

This is called 'the void' in some forums I've been to. Nothingness.
You cease to exist. 'you' disappear. True death. The end.

Ah, but that's the point isn't it. To know there is nothing there, a void, you must remember ie, you still have a form of entity to hold that memory.

Ah, beat me to it. Was gonna say that if a void is perceived, it has to be perceived by someone, and that someone must know the difference between a void and another conditions.

a reply to: FlyersFan



"Kebab"

originally posted by: ARM1986
I think it’s just the doorway back, immediately. I’m not talking reincarnation as much as exactly the same again, and again.

Wouldn't that be something lol. You return to the moment of your birth, in the year you were born in this life. So that people throughout the ages, past, present and future, are reliving their lives after every death.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: FlyersFan

Woody Allen once said, "I'm not afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens."

I plan on dying thinking about having dinner with my grandparents, I miss them.

Reminds me

I want to die in my sleep like my Granddad, not screaming like his passengers