Astronomers predict we will know if aliens exist… tomorrow… (dated Monday 21 Aug 2023)

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: WorldxGonexMad

Sure….

Like ArMap said……diagonally

Tractor Tracks make the best walking pathways transiting to and from ….…..imo

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Apparently this message was sent one night aswell... but its got a lot going on... are you saying there were people able to make that message at night using drones and an air balloon??

Message: The decoded message read “Beware of the bearers o FALSE gifts and their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still Time. There is GOOD out there. We Oppose DECEPTION conduit CLOSING (BELL SOUND).

Have you seen how intricate it is? Would need loads of people to create that in a couple hours...

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Source dated Monday 21 Aug 2023: Astronomers predict we will know if aliens exist… tomorrow

Astronomers hope the reply from a message beamed into space 40 years ago could be detected tomorrow – proving the existence of extraterrestrial life.

On August 15, 1983, professors Masaki Morimoto and Hisashi Hirabayashi used an antenna at Stanford University in the US to send a burst of radio signals into the cosmos.

The message consisted of 13 drawings depicting the history of life on Earth, our solar system and the structure of DNA.

Today’s team, led by Shinya Narusawa at the University of Hyogo, Japan, predicts that around now is the earliest point at which a response from intelligent life could arrive – if anyone living near the star Altair heard it.

Altair, a relatively close 16.7 light-years away, is found in the Aquila constellation and is the 12th brightest star in the night sky.

13 images beamed into space in 1983…

At 10pm tomorrow night, the team will use the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency’s (JAXA) antenna in Saku, central Japan, to scan the skies for a reply, listening in for an hour.

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Although I wouldn’t have chosen the superstitiously unlucky number of 13 for the amount of images transmitted…imo.

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Aliens gonna be laughing at those pictures. They're gonna be like -- what? They have the tech to send us this, but think they used to be fish, and then monkeys, and then themselves?

LOLOLOL

a reply to: WorldxGonexMad

Assuming a crop circle was created in "a couple of hours" is a mistake, some have been seen in two stages of being made, so unless there is evidence that the circle wasn't there on the previous day we should not assume it was made in "a couple of hours".

As for the message, it read:

Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. (Damaged Word). There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING(Bell Sound)

The (Damaged Word) was decoded as "EELIEVE" and assumed that it should be "BELIEVE" (aliens cannot spell).
The (Bell Sound) means that the ASCII code (7) corresponds to a non-printable character that represents a bell sound (the original characters were used in teleprinter machines and the bell was used to signal specific situations, like the start of a message).

a reply to: WorldxGonexMad

No one has all the correct answers to how crop designs are made…..

What I suggest are two different possibilities for physically hoaxing…..in a real technical sense.

If you believe ALL these crop designs are real…..then explain in a real technical sense…. how they were physically made.

Imo…..the key to hoaxed intricate crop designs is to have an aerial view of the artist’s canvas (crop field).

I’m not saying that all crop designs are made the same way, with the help of balloons and drones…..these are newer possible techniques for newer crop designs….perhaps. But imo…..it’s more accurate to use aerial techniques versus the older string and board techniques.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Source dated Monday 21 Aug 2023: Astronomers predict we will know if aliens exist… tomorrow

Astronomers hope the reply from a message beamed into space 40 years ago could be detected tomorrow – proving the existence of extraterrestrial life.

On August 15, 1983, professors Masaki Morimoto and Hisashi Hirabayashi used an antenna at Stanford University in the US to send a burst of radio signals into the cosmos.

The message consisted of 13 drawings depicting the history of life on Earth, our solar system and the structure of DNA.

Today’s team, led by Shinya Narusawa at the University of Hyogo, Japan, predicts that around now is the earliest point at which a response from intelligent life could arrive – if anyone living near the star Altair heard it.

Altair, a relatively close 16.7 light-years away, is found in the Aquila constellation and is the 12th brightest star in the night sky.

13 images beamed into space in 1983…

At 10pm tomorrow night, the team will use the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency’s (JAXA) antenna in Saku, central Japan, to scan the skies for a reply, listening in for an hour.

🤞🏻

Although I wouldn’t have chosen the superstitiously unlucky number of 13 for the amount of images transmitted…imo.

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a reply to: Weareromulas
The dynamics and characteristics of Altair are pretty doubtful when we take into account it metallicity as well as mass. To date no planets have been proposed. However, we are still a long ways away for completing a thorough survey of the system. Who knows? We cant assume that Solar system is the standard model for life bearing star systems. Sol. So far is the only example of our system that we know of. I'm curious but. I doubt any civilization would send a message back without thorough debate as to the consequences of making contact with us. I would expect a much further delay if someone received the message before a response. keep in mind, we are a VERY dangerous and xenophobic species.

originally posted by: BeTheGoddess
Why are they expecting a reply?, its an unsolicited message, they prolly blocked us and reported us for spam and sending porn.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Anyone that learned technical drawing (by hand, not using computers) knows making designs like these on the ground is not as hard as other people think. Even some more intricate designs are relatively easy to make with auxiliary lines, and those sometimes are visible on the crop circles.

So we did not learn aliens exist? Bummer.


a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Let's ignore the mountains of evidence while we're at it.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: WorldxGonexMad

No one has all the correct answers to how crop designs are made…..

What I suggest are two different possibilities for physically hoaxing…..in a real technical sense.

If you believe ALL these crop designs are real…..then explain in a real technical sense…. how they were physically made.

Imo…..the key to hoaxed intricate crop designs is to have an aerial view of the artist’s canvas (crop field).

I’m not saying that all crop designs are made the same way, with the help of balloons and drones…..these are newer possible techniques for newer crop designs….perhaps. But imo…..it’s more accurate to use aerial techniques versus the older string and board techniques.

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I don't believe ALL crop circles are real and made by some alien race, only the very intricate ones are a possibility as I jus can't see them being made by humans in a couple hours!

BTW, I will take a look at that youtube video you posted earlier a some point.

a reply to: WorldxGonexMad

How was the 'bell sound' translated?

originally posted by: WorldxGonexMad
I don't believe ALL crop circles are real and made by some alien race, only the very intricate ones are a possibility as I jus can't see them being made by humans in a couple hours!

First, the fact one person cannot do something doesn't mean all other people aren't capable of doing it either.
For example, many crop circles have a general hexagonal shape and the hexagon is extremely easy to draw with compass (or with a rope and two sticks).

Also, the assumption that crop circles are made in a couple of hours is wrong in several cases. The fact that someone sees one crop circle one morning doesn't mean it appeared during the night, it may have been made several days before.

A large (I think it was 350 ft wide) crop circle some years ago was a good example of that, but in that case there was a photo from the day before.

Guys and gals with a good design and a GPS system and some wooden boards..

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

The message was written in binary code, with raised areas being used as 1 and flattened areas as 0. Those areas had the same size. Between them there were smaller "blocks" that we interpreted as separators to create groups of 8 blocks, resulting in 8 bit codes.

Those 8 bit codes were translated to decimal numbers and those numbers, on the ASCII codes table, represent those specific letters.

Something like this:
01000010 = 66 = B
01100101 = 101 = e
01110111 = 119 = w
01100001 = 97 = a
01110010 = 114 = r
01100101 = 101 = e

The last block shows: 00000111 = 7.
7 does not represent a letter on the ASCII code table, it represents what is called a non-printable character, codes that were used originally in teletype machines to control the machine itself, like code 00001101 = 13 = carriage return, the code that would make the teletype machine's print head to return to the start of the line, usually followed (or preceded) by code 00001010 = 10 = line feed, which would make the machine advance the paper by one line, just like in a typewriter.

In this specific case, code 7 was meant to make the teletype machine to sound a bell, and that's what the "bell sound" means.

As far as I know nobody considered it to have a special meaning, being just another ASCII code in a group of ASCII codes.

a reply to: ArMaP

If it is a message from aliens, then they keep repeating the same message of "beware your destructive actions and hate will be your undoing."

a reply to: ArMaP

I first started writing code before desktop computing was a thing. IBM 370 assembly. There isn't much you can tell me about binary code.

You can have all the zero's and one's you want, you still don't have ASCII

But its a start. And the BEST basis for interspecies communication. That isnt what I have an issue with.

"bell sound" just isn't something found in normal translations of communication. It's more like a hollywood script type convention of indicating special effects included in the conversation. It's a weird thing to include in the communication.

a reply to: Blackfinger

You don't need a good GPS system to do things like this, only good work preparation.

Gardens like the one below, in Versailles, France, were made in the 18th century without any advanced technology.



When you know how to do things and which tools to use and how to use them things become easier.

a reply to: quintessentone

That's a big if.

If aliens wanted to send a message why write it in a spiral like on a CD, using binary and ASCII codes, why not write it in clear characters?

To me this looks more like someone trying to look smart.

PS: one suspicious thing in cases of crop circles that need to be "decoded" is how fast someone appears with the "decoding", almost as if they already knew what it meant.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
I first started writing code before desktop computing was a thing. IBM 370 assembly. There isn't much you can tell me about binary code.

I couldn't know that.

You can have all the zero's and one's you want, you still don't have ASCII

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that.

But its a start. And the BEST basis for interspecies communication

The best basis is using the intended recipient's characters.

That isnt what I have an issue with.

"bell sound" just isn't something found in normal translations of communication. It's more like a hollywood script type convention of indicating special effects included in the conversation. It's a weird thing to include in the communication.

The original communication had only the number 7 in binary, "bell sound" was what the person who decoded the message wrote.