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The World is Crazy and it's happened before it seems
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To understand where we are going, one has to understand where we have been. There is so much real history hidden away by opportunistic psychopaths and
so much other history lost to the sands of time. Every 12,000 or so years, civilization goes through a reset-by-cataclysm, where the entire world is
effected. Some areas are hit harder than others, but they all suffer to some extent.
Generally 1% of all animal life, including humans, survives. There have been estimates that as few as 15,000 people survived worldwide the last time 12,000 years ago. In many cases these survivors were scattered about so badly, that there was some trouble in keeping the species going.
Some histories exist, but the powers that be like to promote them as legends, myths and allegories, when in fact, they are likely actual histories. The translations of those histories and the ancient languages they are written in, are controlled by those same powers-that-be in an attempt to confuse and obfuscate their meanings, such that only the psychopaths in power know the actual history and truth. Here are some things to read that may make you give your head a very firm shake....
Pre-12,000 years ago, The Mahabharata and there is considerable evidence that there was a nuclear war as shown in a buried layer of the Indus Valley.
The Mahabharata Link 1
The Mahabharata Link 2
Pre-11,500 years ago, The Adam and Eve Story, plus The Aftermath.
CIA Sanitized, The Adam and Eve Story
Complete w/Aftermath, The Adam and Eve Story
Pre-6,000 years ago, The Epic of Gilgamesh which is basically the story of Noah, plagiarized by Abraham (from the Bible) who lived in Ur, Babylon and is based on the Sumerian history concerning Utnapishtim and Gilgamesh.
Epic of Gilgamesh Link 1
Epic of Gilgamesh Link 2
Epic of Gilgamesh Link 3
These three give a reference point, that this # has happened before, many times in the past. There have been catastrophic changes to the earth that are cyclic in nature that quite literally wipe out civilization. There are a lot of other books you can look up mentioned in the Adam and Eve Story, so these books are just starting points.
As an aside, I have included Charles Hapgood, "Earth's Shifting Crust" since Hapgood was a CIA operative acting as a professor when he wrote this book. It appears it was meant to derail catastrophism research into the 12,000 year cycle, as many of his theories can be debunked.
Charles Hapgood on Crustal Displacement
Then there is the Urantia Book which claims to be a cross reference type book to the Bible. I haven't read the Urantia yet, so the jury's out on its value or relevance, but you never know right... I have included the link just in case.
The Urantia Book
If you take the Bible at face value there is even a warning from the distant past that society and even the elect were deceived (prior to the cyclic 12,000 year catastrophe) by Pharmakeia. Odd how that word pops up these days and how companies like Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AstraZeneca (which means "Weapon to kill them"), the Pharma industry et al, have destroyed so many lives for profit/benefit/greed.
The Psychology of Collapse
Recently, Edward Dutton wrote "Spiteful Mutants" which is an excellent treatise on why we are where we are and why the world has gone stupid-crazy with so much allowable corruption. We are looking like a bad version of Sodom and Gomorrah on crack! It explains who the "Zombies" are and why "Wokeness" is a mental virus that will cause population collapse. It all really makes perfect sense.
Spiteful Mutants
Anyway... you can't prepare for what you don't know might be happening ;-)
Generally 1% of all animal life, including humans, survives. There have been estimates that as few as 15,000 people survived worldwide the last time 12,000 years ago. In many cases these survivors were scattered about so badly, that there was some trouble in keeping the species going.
Some histories exist, but the powers that be like to promote them as legends, myths and allegories, when in fact, they are likely actual histories. The translations of those histories and the ancient languages they are written in, are controlled by those same powers-that-be in an attempt to confuse and obfuscate their meanings, such that only the psychopaths in power know the actual history and truth. Here are some things to read that may make you give your head a very firm shake....
Pre-12,000 years ago, The Mahabharata and there is considerable evidence that there was a nuclear war as shown in a buried layer of the Indus Valley.
The Mahabharata Link 1
The Mahabharata Link 2
Pre-11,500 years ago, The Adam and Eve Story, plus The Aftermath.
CIA Sanitized, The Adam and Eve Story
Complete w/Aftermath, The Adam and Eve Story
Pre-6,000 years ago, The Epic of Gilgamesh which is basically the story of Noah, plagiarized by Abraham (from the Bible) who lived in Ur, Babylon and is based on the Sumerian history concerning Utnapishtim and Gilgamesh.
Epic of Gilgamesh Link 1
Epic of Gilgamesh Link 2
Epic of Gilgamesh Link 3
These three give a reference point, that this # has happened before, many times in the past. There have been catastrophic changes to the earth that are cyclic in nature that quite literally wipe out civilization. There are a lot of other books you can look up mentioned in the Adam and Eve Story, so these books are just starting points.
As an aside, I have included Charles Hapgood, "Earth's Shifting Crust" since Hapgood was a CIA operative acting as a professor when he wrote this book. It appears it was meant to derail catastrophism research into the 12,000 year cycle, as many of his theories can be debunked.
Charles Hapgood on Crustal Displacement
Then there is the Urantia Book which claims to be a cross reference type book to the Bible. I haven't read the Urantia yet, so the jury's out on its value or relevance, but you never know right... I have included the link just in case.
The Urantia Book
If you take the Bible at face value there is even a warning from the distant past that society and even the elect were deceived (prior to the cyclic 12,000 year catastrophe) by Pharmakeia. Odd how that word pops up these days and how companies like Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AstraZeneca (which means "Weapon to kill them"), the Pharma industry et al, have destroyed so many lives for profit/benefit/greed.
The Psychology of Collapse
Recently, Edward Dutton wrote "Spiteful Mutants" which is an excellent treatise on why we are where we are and why the world has gone stupid-crazy with so much allowable corruption. We are looking like a bad version of Sodom and Gomorrah on crack! It explains who the "Zombies" are and why "Wokeness" is a mental virus that will cause population collapse. It all really makes perfect sense.
Spiteful Mutants
Anyway... you can't prepare for what you don't know might be happening ;-)
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Thank you for the fascinating info, I saved & booked marked the sites to read much later cz I'm too busy ATM.
So great to see you back mate!
Cheers
Ektar
Thank you for the fascinating info, I saved & booked marked the sites to read much later cz I'm too busy ATM.
So great to see you back mate!
Cheers
Ektar
Thanks for this thread bobs_uruncle. I have some reading to do. Starting with; Spiteful Zombies.
I shall be back!
I shall be back!
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
I have often wondered if all those doomsday predictions in the book 'Good News' was just the remembered history of when it happened the last time. Like in 'The Cantical for Leibowitz'.
I have also thought about if the Earth axis changes or does the crust just slip on the surface. Most of us will not survive ether one.
I have often wondered if all those doomsday predictions in the book 'Good News' was just the remembered history of when it happened the last time. Like in 'The Cantical for Leibowitz'.
I have also thought about if the Earth axis changes or does the crust just slip on the surface. Most of us will not survive ether one.
originally posted by: NewNobodySpecial268
Thanks for this thread bobs_uruncle. I have some reading to do. Starting with; Spiteful Zombies.
I shall be back!
Dysgenic reproduction and what it causes is a very interesting subject. It's based on an increasing error multiplication rate in genetic expression and since 84% of our genome has to do with brain function, well, that's where 84% of these genetic mutations are expressed. About 10-12 generations ago, 1 out of every two kids died before they could reproduce, so it was Darwinism at work in real time. The strong survived to pass on potentially limited or low level mutational loads to their offspring. However, with the advent of more modern medicine, that number dropped to one in 50 or more allowing the retention of a greater number of mutations in the gene pool. When two people with mutational loading procreate, their offspring has a high probability of expressing or latently carrying their parent's genetic mutations for transfer to the next generation.
The net result over time is a kind of creeping psychosis until we have what we have now. An entire generation hellbent on destroying society, but not really knowing why they are doing it or understanding the consequences of their actions. With the genome mutations comes a dumbing down as well, a lack of critical thinking and being able to solve problems without looking at the internet or reading a book.
But it's ok I guess since we are coming up against the galactic current sheet, the X Class flare will come soon knocking out the electrical grid. That will be followed in a few years by the micro-nova and then all hell will break loose when the lithosphere separates from the mantle letting Antarctica and Greenland travel to the equator in about 6 hours (1000mph winds and tsunamis, yehaw!). Then darwinism will take over once again and only the strong will survive. It's almost like every 12,000 years or so, chlorine is thrown in the gene pool because it needs some serious cleaning.
Cheers - Dave
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Talk about putting fear into someone, that'll do it.
With advances in technology, whatever that may entail, there is another cycle I'd like to bring up that we are currently seeing. It's the "Understanding vs Knowledge" dichotomy.
What I mean by this is say a cell phone. We can use one, work one, do all kids of cool stuff with one. But can we build one? Even if we got a team, could we reproduce one without all the technology that goes into building one?
We can apply this to buildings, cars, infrastructure and on and on.
It would explain why we have to start back at the stone age while trying to incorporate things like the great pyramids and all the other unexplainable construction and doodads we happen to find.
As an aside, I have included Charles Hapgood, "Earth's Shifting Crust" since Hapgood was a CIA operative acting as a professor when he wrote this book. It appears it was meant to derail catastrophism research into the 12,000 year cycle, as many of his theories can be debunked.
Talk about putting fear into someone, that'll do it.
With advances in technology, whatever that may entail, there is another cycle I'd like to bring up that we are currently seeing. It's the "Understanding vs Knowledge" dichotomy.
What I mean by this is say a cell phone. We can use one, work one, do all kids of cool stuff with one. But can we build one? Even if we got a team, could we reproduce one without all the technology that goes into building one?
We can apply this to buildings, cars, infrastructure and on and on.
It would explain why we have to start back at the stone age while trying to incorporate things like the great pyramids and all the other unexplainable construction and doodads we happen to find.
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
I've been researching this subject for a long time now; I'm currently working my way through all of the Churchward books on Mu. It sure adds a new perspective to consider!
If any of it is true, it looks like mans' knowledge increases to the point of creating a cataclysm because knowledge without the wisdom needed to go along with it always reaches a tipping point.
The elite seem to have a plan this time though; the Svalbard Global Seed Vault and underground bunkers for those with enough money to buy a bunk.
What started me on this quest so many years ago was learning about all of the ancient underground cities around the world and trying to figure out why all our world scholars have no clue what they were used for or how long they were in use. They're still discovering more to this day.
Thanks for the thread!
I've been researching this subject for a long time now; I'm currently working my way through all of the Churchward books on Mu. It sure adds a new perspective to consider!
If any of it is true, it looks like mans' knowledge increases to the point of creating a cataclysm because knowledge without the wisdom needed to go along with it always reaches a tipping point.
The elite seem to have a plan this time though; the Svalbard Global Seed Vault and underground bunkers for those with enough money to buy a bunk.
What started me on this quest so many years ago was learning about all of the ancient underground cities around the world and trying to figure out why all our world scholars have no clue what they were used for or how long they were in use. They're still discovering more to this day.
Thanks for the thread!
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Aye, I understand the principal of survival of the fitest. I understand that in Japan, it was considered in the folk lore that until the age of six years or so, children belonged to the gods. A kind way to look at child mortality.
I think there is another (and unpopular) angle that should be considered objectively.Especially when we are looking at long cycles of 12,000 years.
One might consider that the last 3,000 years of male centric religious thought and practice may have contributed to the current situation of inevitable collapse.
One example I can give is a thousand years of Inquisition where women and female children were purged from the European population. This has probably removed the seer/psychic from the gene pool.
A calculated thing rather than natural selection. Society destroying itself.
Aye, I understand the principal of survival of the fitest. I understand that in Japan, it was considered in the folk lore that until the age of six years or so, children belonged to the gods. A kind way to look at child mortality.
I think there is another (and unpopular) angle that should be considered objectively.Especially when we are looking at long cycles of 12,000 years.
One might consider that the last 3,000 years of male centric religious thought and practice may have contributed to the current situation of inevitable collapse.
One example I can give is a thousand years of Inquisition where women and female children were purged from the European population. This has probably removed the seer/psychic from the gene pool.
A calculated thing rather than natural selection. Society destroying itself.
edit on 15-8-2023 by NewNobodySpecial268 because: spelling
a reply to: JinMI
Throw me the chips, I can build one lol. Hell, I am building a seven processor midi guitar in a les paul body right now and I'm tits deep in writing the software. Quite the pain actually, between the M4 cortex and A8 cortex ARM processors. Too many projects and not enough time... I also have 2 Analogue Devices 5G RF Microwave power analyzers that I can wave guide up to 100ghz. I want to build them into something to check 5G signal strength. They were like $1,500 each, but they were good guys, they gave me samples ;-)
You are right though, spot on. Things have become so complex that if we're lucky, we'll get thrown back to maybe some 1800s type tech, but that won't last long, because 99% of people's energy will be spent simply on surviving. Just remember, after the bright flash and the grid goes down during the solar high cycle (ends Dec 2030), the big one comes in the cold cycle. As material from the nebula rapidly accretes on the sun, it will go dark, possibly blood red and look like an eclipse. You will have 2-3 days to get 5,000' above sea level and 1000 miles away from any large body of water and hope that's far enough. It depends on the rotation direction and the foci. Personally I think around 100w and 80e on the equator.
Cheers - Dave
Throw me the chips, I can build one lol. Hell, I am building a seven processor midi guitar in a les paul body right now and I'm tits deep in writing the software. Quite the pain actually, between the M4 cortex and A8 cortex ARM processors. Too many projects and not enough time... I also have 2 Analogue Devices 5G RF Microwave power analyzers that I can wave guide up to 100ghz. I want to build them into something to check 5G signal strength. They were like $1,500 each, but they were good guys, they gave me samples ;-)
You are right though, spot on. Things have become so complex that if we're lucky, we'll get thrown back to maybe some 1800s type tech, but that won't last long, because 99% of people's energy will be spent simply on surviving. Just remember, after the bright flash and the grid goes down during the solar high cycle (ends Dec 2030), the big one comes in the cold cycle. As material from the nebula rapidly accretes on the sun, it will go dark, possibly blood red and look like an eclipse. You will have 2-3 days to get 5,000' above sea level and 1000 miles away from any large body of water and hope that's far enough. It depends on the rotation direction and the foci. Personally I think around 100w and 80e on the equator.
Cheers - Dave
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Your mad scientist skills aside, build your own chip!
Even the vehicles. Lets assume, Mad Max type postapocalyptic scenario. Gas? Lubricants? Welding gasses?
I mean we can go all day stretching out every single source piece of material needed just to have some semblance of a life we knew before.
Our reliance on technology will be the downfall for most of us in any scenario where the supply chains and grid is down. Then extrapolate over generations.
One thing eludes me however.
Where are all the damn tools!??!
Your mad scientist skills aside, build your own chip!
Even the vehicles. Lets assume, Mad Max type postapocalyptic scenario. Gas? Lubricants? Welding gasses?
I mean we can go all day stretching out every single source piece of material needed just to have some semblance of a life we knew before.
Our reliance on technology will be the downfall for most of us in any scenario where the supply chains and grid is down. Then extrapolate over generations.
One thing eludes me however.
Where are all the damn tools!??!
originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
I've been researching this subject for a long time now; I'm currently working my way through all of the Churchward books on Mu. It sure adds a new perspective to consider!
If any of it is true, it looks like mans' knowledge increases to the point of creating a cataclysm because knowledge without the wisdom needed to go along with it always reaches a tipping point.
The elite seem to have a plan this time though; the Svalbard Global Seed Vault and underground bunkers for those with enough money to buy a bunk.
What started me on this quest so many years ago was learning about all of the ancient underground cities around the world and trying to figure out why all our world scholars have no clue what they were used for or how long they were in use. They're still discovering more to this day.
Thanks for the thread!
I've got a pretty solid feeling that at some point we might just figure out that Antarctica was Atlantis and Greenland was Mu, since they will likely end up right on the equator.
Cheers - Dave
Oh well, we are all destined to die anyway and there is a certain comfort to be had knowing we will all go together. I'm not really fussed, it's as
good a way as any!
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Your mad scientist skills aside, build your own chip!
Even the vehicles. Lets assume, Mad Max type postapocalyptic scenario. Gas? Lubricants? Welding gasses?
I mean we can go all day stretching out every single source piece of material needed just to have some semblance of a life we knew before.
Our reliance on technology will be the downfall for most of us in any scenario where the supply chains and grid is down. Then extrapolate over generations.
One thing eludes me however.
Where are all the damn tools!??!
Not gas, Ammonia+hydrogen I have my own generator lol
and in diesels if you do it right you can actually used charcoal powder or you can go the long route and refine vegetable oils with methanol. I keep some truck electronics/alternator/battery/etc in a Faraday cage. It should protect against a solar flare/CME, but I am not so sure about current induction during a micro-nova.
Best to decouple from tech anyway. If you can do things without it, you're better off than 90% of the population and you have a much higher survival rate and community value should things go sideways. Oh, and don't forget, hard copy books of edible plants/mushrooms/etc. lol
Cheers - Dave
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
as far as i can tell this is a century long cycle.. where an ideology rises it plateaus gets corrupted and falls ending in some cataclysmic war before a new ideology rises from the ashes..
for the west thats been true for the last 500 years during the late teens/early 20s of each of the last 5 century.
the fall of new liberalism in the lates 1910s/20s gave rise to communism/fascism and Nazism as ideologies jostling to replace the dying liberalism, we are going to see the same happen to us as new liberalism is again hovering at that corrupted end game.
as far as i can tell this is a century long cycle.. where an ideology rises it plateaus gets corrupted and falls ending in some cataclysmic war before a new ideology rises from the ashes..
for the west thats been true for the last 500 years during the late teens/early 20s of each of the last 5 century.
the fall of new liberalism in the lates 1910s/20s gave rise to communism/fascism and Nazism as ideologies jostling to replace the dying liberalism, we are going to see the same happen to us as new liberalism is again hovering at that corrupted end game.
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a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Ok, every 12000 years there’s a major reset and you’ve cited the most recent. Can you point us to what happened 24000 years ago? 36000? If the theory is this is cyclical you should have something to support that besides the most recent reset. Otherwise why worry, it could be just a one time deal?
Ok, every 12000 years there’s a major reset and you’ve cited the most recent. Can you point us to what happened 24000 years ago? 36000? If the theory is this is cyclical you should have something to support that besides the most recent reset. Otherwise why worry, it could be just a one time deal?
a reply to: JinMI
Warning: Tin foil hat moment ahead...
12,000+ years. Most of them would be dust by now, or so far under water and crust they'll never be found. What has been found has been scurried away into "Warehouse 13" along with everything else that doesn't fit the narrative.
Where are all the damn tools!??!
Warning: Tin foil hat moment ahead...
12,000+ years. Most of them would be dust by now, or so far under water and crust they'll never be found. What has been found has been scurried away into "Warehouse 13" along with everything else that doesn't fit the narrative.
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Probably my favorite doom porn topic, but it has probably been closer to 13,000 years at this point, so we're overdue.
Probably my favorite doom porn topic, but it has probably been closer to 13,000 years at this point, so we're overdue.
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Great thread. I have come to similar conclusions, and would add that the book of Revelations in the Bible is likely some additional evidence of a story of a prior technological civilization from some past cycle that went crazy, just like ours is doing currently. The 'beast' situation probably happened before as true history, and seems similar in many ways to what our world is going through now, with technology centralizing control, and psychopaths in charge of the center of it.
Great thread. I have come to similar conclusions, and would add that the book of Revelations in the Bible is likely some additional evidence of a story of a prior technological civilization from some past cycle that went crazy, just like ours is doing currently. The 'beast' situation probably happened before as true history, and seems similar in many ways to what our world is going through now, with technology centralizing control, and psychopaths in charge of the center of it.
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