Conservative Case Emerges to Disqualify Trump for Role on Jan. 6

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: stevieray

Pure irony! (3 years and counting).

"scream like babies that it was unfair".

Yea, tell it brother. We heard it for 4 years while Trump was living as an illegitimate president in the white house. There is plenty of irony for everyone. If you have the stones to admit it that is.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RazorV66

Rent free? How much is he getting in donations?

more and more every day. does that make you salty?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Personally I like DeSantis/Scott/Ramaswamy or some combo, but that isn't reality.

Personally, I like Ramaswamy-just because it so fun to say.

@ Jrod:

The GOP does not want him to be their candidate.

psst! They never wanted him in the first place, but hoped they could manipulate him into following the GOP/DNC joint agenda.

a reply to: network dude

No. Just meant he's not exactly "rent free" in anyone's heads?

Donate away.

a reply to: nugget1

My grandma always bet on the horse with the best name!

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

The US' GDP is currently ~23 trillion. Trump's current net worth is 2.3 billion. Very little of that is liquid.

Do you actually think he'll be able to outspend the US government?

a reply to: stevieray

They have a history of being originalists.

But feel free to disregard their views without actually reading their paper or knowing anything about their backgrounds.

a reply to: Mahogany

Still cant believe the following Trunp has, talk about a bag of wind.
The scary part is, Trump is a complete liar, power hungry and totally unfit for office.

Wake up before its too late.

Putin was voted into office, never to leave again.
Trump will almost certainly do the same if he gets back into the Whitehouse

Trump is a disgrace of a man,he believes he is above the law.

a reply to: rigel4

Really want to know why they follow him?
I doubt it but here goes.
He's not telling them they're semi-demonic garbage that deserves what's happening to them because history, group affiliation, and etc.
And providing thus far empty hope.
But hope all the same.

If you tried listening to something other than those doing your thinking for you.
You'd see that.

a reply to: rigel4

Putin was voted into office, never to leave again.
Trump will almost certainly do the same if he gets back into the Whitehouse

Trump is a disgrace of a man,he believes he is above the law.

Umm, hate to break it to you, but Trump isn't in office. He was though..so....hows that logic work?

Also, if he believes hes above the law, then why did he show up to be arrested?

Help me out here.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: rigel4

Putin was voted into office, never to leave again.
Trump will almost certainly do the same if he gets back into the Whitehouse

Trump is a disgrace of a man,he believes he is above the law.

Umm, hate to break it to you, but Trump isn't in office. He was though..so....hows that logic work?

Also, if he believes hes above the law, then why did he show up to be arrested?

Help me out here.

I didnt say he was in office, go back and read the post again.

a reply to: rigel4

Damn, you've got a bad case.
TDS. You've got TDS

originally posted by: rigel4

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: rigel4

Putin was voted into office, never to leave again.
Trump will almost certainly do the same if he gets back into the Whitehouse

Trump is a disgrace of a man,he believes he is above the law.

Umm, hate to break it to you, but Trump isn't in office. He was though..so....hows that logic work?

Also, if he believes hes above the law, then why did he show up to be arrested?

Help me out here.

I didnt say he was in office, go back and read the post again.

You said Trump would do the same as Putin if in office...Trump was in office and did no such thing.....

Surely you can follow your own logic, yes?

a reply to: rigel4

What's funny is being unable to see that it's not a either or proposition....

Address the plank in your own eye first....

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Mahogany

Just a quick question.

Where is the charge and conviction of Trump for insurrection?

ETA

Here is the lynch pin of their entire argument in addition to my question above:

There is, the article said, “abundant evidence” that Mr. Trump engaged in an insurrection, including by setting out to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election, trying to alter vote counts by fraud and intimidation, encouraging bogus slates of competing electors, pressuring the vice president to violate the Constitution, calling for the march on the Capitol and remaining silent for hours during the attack itself.

They have no way of knowing objectively what is or isn't actual evidence. Their theory relies on allegations alone.

Even if Trump is guilty of all he is alleged to have done, it's still not an insurrection charge and conviction.

What a hack job.

Trying again. WB machine link

web.archive.org...://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/trump-jan-6-insurrection-conservatives.html

8.13.2023 fyi

The GOOD/HONEST GUYS at the FBI Conducted an investigation for several months, and found nothing pointing to President Trump instigating the riot...

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.

Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," said a former senior law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. "Then you have five percent, maybe, of these militia groups that were more closely organized. But there was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

More at: www.reuters.com...

Then, A.G. Merrick Garland Appointed 2 Special Counsels...

One to "Take Down" candidate Trump for Jan 6th speeches, named Jack Smith.

One to keep President Biden from being exposed as a Traitor, named Robert Hur.

It is IMPERATIVE that Speaker McCarthy launch an Impeachment Inquiry of Merrick Garland's actions, ASAP!

a reply to: Threadbare

He will last longer than most of us. What has he got to lose? Can't take it with you. His kids have their own.

You seem to want to crow about the juggernaut ripping him to shreads. You really love it don't you.

Maybe you'd enjoy being similarly ground into the ground by a government you can no longer trust.

originally posted by: Mahogany
This could also have gone under breaking news but the media hasn't picked up on it yet, the paper has yet to be published but there is already a lot of talk about it in pre-print. The two authors of the paper are two very, very conservative constitutional professors who are active in the Federalist Society. This is the same group that has shaped the current Supreme Court and has great influence over American law and Republican politics.

Get back to us when Trump is convicted if engaging in insurrection and/or rebellion.

a reply to: tanstaafl

If you check the Couy Griffin case, no conviction is needed.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: tanstaafl

If you check the Couy Griffin case, no conviction is needed.

Apparently he was found guilty of TRESSPASS before he was told he can not hold office again.