LGBTQ Pride Storybooks in Maryland Public Schools - the battle of national interest

The seven magical dwarfs.

Snow White awakens ...

"Hi I'm Boozy, and this is my brother Trppy".

a reply to: halfoldman

I thought in this one she never wakes and thats the end.

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

It's their truth that Santa Clause exists.

No it is a belief imposed upon children. Transgender children do not need anyone to tell what their genders are. I truly can't believe we're discussing this!

I'm truly shaking my head hard.

Wow
What isn’t a belief imposed on children?
I will wait…..

Transgenderism is NOT a belief imposed over children.

You can't be more wrong on this!

Transgenderism is a ridiculous ideology based on adult delusions and pseudo-science that is constantly pushed on schools and universities. Especially in schools.

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

originally posted by: ABlackCat
No it is a belief imposed upon children.

Comparable to trans ideologues?

Transgender children do not need anyone to tell what their genders are.

Then why the need for all the trans ideology and perssuasion?

Again, it is about tolerance and acceptance, not "persuasion".

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE WANT CHILDREN TO THINK THEY'RE OF THE OPPOSITE GENDERS?



Come on think!

Not at all.

It's about indoctrination and brainwash.

An ideology that is based on thin air and it's absolutely baseless and antiscientific. Transgenderism and gender ideology have no place in schools.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

It's their truth that Santa Clause exists.

No it is a belief imposed upon children. Transgender children do not need anyone to tell what their genders are. I truly can't believe we're discussing this!

I'm truly shaking my head hard.

Wow
What isn’t a belief imposed on children?
I will wait…..

Transgenderism is NOT a belief imposed over children.

You can't be more wrong on this!

Transgenderism is a ridiculous ideology based on adult delusions and pseudo-science that is constantly pushed on schools and universities. Especially in schools.

What makes you an expert?

Seriously, do you have some credentials?

Clearly others are far closer to the reality?

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer

originally posted by: ABlackCat
It has been a pretty good discussion.

Agreed. I felt we actually got somewhere for a change.

Anyway, here are a few examples of things I found that have happened in schools and/or books that are in school libraries. Of course, not every school library. Much of the stuff I found was nixed after protest from parents. Some are things that didn't have district approval and came from teachers taking lessons into their own hands.

Dean of Students Brags about Bringing in LGBTQ+ Health Center to Teach Queer Sex to Minors

Here's an article about a book called Sex is a Funny Word that's in some school libraries.

According to the publisher, this book is written for children between the ages of seven and ten years old, an age that is generally pre-pubescent. It’s a colorful book, drawing children’s eyes among many of the other, more scientific and muted books of the biology shelf in the children’s section of the library.

The entire book is framed as a story of a male teacher encouraging students in his classroom to explore their sexuality (pp. 10–15, 156–157). Throughout the book, children are encouraged to discuss sexuality with “trusted adults.”

In one section of the book, touching of sexual parts of the human body are invariably described as “sensitive” and “warm and tingly:”

Additionally, the book specifically advocates masturbation to children:

“Some people think that sexy feelings should only happen in grown-up relationships. And many grown-ups say that sexy is a word to use only when you’re older.” (p.130)

(see link above for more graphic quotes directly from the book)

Meet The Sex Shop Founder Who Is Grooming Children Through Books In School Libraries

Fifth Graders to be Taught Masturbation

The Center for Garden State Families is alarmed by the age-inappropriate material being forced on minor children who are 9, 10, and 11 years old!

The standards are but guidelines for each individual school district to determine how the standards are to be met. Recently, The Center for Garden State Families spoke to a large group of concerned citizens in a town in the Garden State. A health teacher approached us at the end of the presentation to tell us that the school was considering options and how to teach the masturbation requirement to the fifth-graders.

The teacher was told they may be looking for a “film” to show to the students.

Not a school but still interesting because IMO places like this are connected:
NHS Child Gender Clinic (Tavistock Clinic)

Clinicians reported worries that some patients were referred onto a gender transitioning pathway too quickly.

"Let's pray that I am wrong because if I am not wrong, very many vulnerable children have been very poorly treated and will be left with, potentially, a lifetime of damage here," one says.

As well as seeing young people struggling with their sexuality, staff say some parents appeared to prefer their children to be transgender and straight, rather than gay.

In one example, a GIDS clinician describes a young person who had come out as a lesbian and faced homophobic bullying, "within the family and quite openly in school".

"Suddenly the young person changed their mind and they started identifying as trans."

In some of these cases, clinicians thought that it wouldn't be appropriate for the patient to be referred for puberty blockers, with one child apparently saying: "My mum wants the hormone more than I do.

UK Schools...

School institutions in the United Kingdom have set specific lessons aimed at teaching students under the age of 15 about anal sex and orgasms, as well as assigning “masturbation” as homework, MailOnline report.

According to the investigation conducted by the UK-based media outlet, many teachers are ‘indoctrinating’ children with claims about biological sex, presenting gender as fluid, and advancing the narrative that people can be born in the wrong body.

“It comes as the NHS is facing mass legal action from 1,000 families who claim their children were rushed into taking life-changing puberty blockers’ by the Tavistock Centre,” MailOnline said.

The media outlet also noted that graphic teaching materials, including a sex manual for pre-teens, were discovered in classrooms across the UK.

DailyMail added that these concerns arose after a concerned mother was denied the right to see the content of the lessons being taught to her 15-year-old daughter in her Relationships and Sex Education (RSE) classes, which became mandatory three years ago.

I need to take a break from looking for more atm.

I agree people need to feel free to be who they are.

But I am also concerned that there is an agenda of indoctrination for various nefarious reasons. The evil behind it hiding under what looks like and should be a good cause. In that way nobody can question it, or else you're labeled hateful, fearful, etc.

I want people to live and let live and I am not condemning trans people. I am just trying to point out that something predatorial is happening. And I understand the average trans person is not necessarily a part of it.

But there is definitely something more than meets the eye going on.

Your first example was in a private school so they can do whatever they want, and that's just a one-off example, IMO.

Any, as most describe as "age-appropriate", books in school libraries are systematically being moved to an "off-limits" area where children need a parental pass to access the books. Keyword: age-appropriate. Not sure why parents don't want to let their kids learn about age-appropriate materials as it will only make them vulnerable to some potential interactions with others for being naive.

Here is U.K.s "What is RSE?" manual that some parents object to...from what I can see the only objection would be to the LGBTQ information and/or inclusivity and diversity information, as per the usual parental suspects.

www.twinkl.ca...

As for the NHS, you forgot to add this snippet.

In the transcripts, staff are damning in their assessment of some parts of the service

"Let's pray that I am wrong because if I am not wrong, very many vulnerable children have been very poorly treated and will be left with, potentially, a lifetime of damage here," one says.

"The reality is, by not doing anything, children are potentially still being medically mismanaged."

And if we dig deeper some patients who are suicidal need to be medically managed - somehow.

These are early days learning and studying this phenomenon and we are all learning as we go. As with Covid, mistakes will be made along the way but we will eventually get to a place of better understanding and treatment.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Investigation Launched After Kindergarten Students Assigned Masturbation Worksheet

This is the explanation given for teaching children about their body parts: (again, I say educate them so they are not naive and better able to protect themselves)

On Monday, Isham said “a lot of hate” had been coming her way, including threats.

“I have been called a pedophile more times than I can count, I’ve been called a groomer many, many times,” she recalled.

“I don’t care about what people call me, I care about the safety of our kids.”

According to Isham, children aged three and four are most at risk for sexual abuse because predators often count on the fact that they may not be verbal yet and aren’t fully educated.

Oregon Health Class Assigns Students to Write Sexual Fantasy - But Without any Sex (still weird)

Yup, weird and again a one-off situation in one school and each school seems to have one of them, a crackpot teacher.

Our Kids' School Libraries are Full of Guides on Sex Acts and Gender Confusion

Again, supply parental library access cards for students wanting or needing to learn more about how to survive out there in the adult world.

a reply to: quintessentone

since when can private schools do whatever they want, they can no more do whatever they want than the corporates can, indeed they are more liable to see the insides of a court than state schools as rich parents can afford to take on private schools.

pedos groups like PIE use the naive argument so kids can be sexualised as it opens up the path to normalising paedophilia, liberal p[rogressive uk was here in the 80s and 90s it should serve as a warning not as a clone to copy, just as the Canadians at the heart of the satanic panic should be aware of the damage of social contagion in social work and police forces.. it was that panic that masked the Rotherham child abuse in its earler day as the police/social services could only see christians as child abusers.. so creating a blind spot does that, and 10s of thousands of abused kids later is no excuse..

as to age appropriate the uk first heterosexual intercourse is roughly 15 and 17 for homosexual intercourse that is the age children naturally start to explore and be comfortable to take it to the next level

it does feel very groomer like to try to or excuse sexualising children at an age far younger than they would naturally be comfortable with..

we have had this info for generations, its not covid like only those with the aims of PIE want to sexualise kids and this safeguarding should be as much in the interest of trans supporters as liberals or progressives, these are not the elderly at end of life, abusing children especially those with mental disorders or indeed converting proto homosexuals is not an error that'll be forgiven.

this is why the uk left and us right are so far apart and why trying to map the 2 on top of each other simply doesn't work.. as you used Canadian sources, Canada is more like the us in terms of split of those for against pre Vatican ii ideas than the uk could ever be, even in the uks RC community..

a reply to: nickyw

Most of the examples posted by ATS members are sensationalized one-off events which have been dealt with by the school administrations. As I said previously, there is always one crackpot teacher in some schools.

I will stand by my opinion that children should be educated so as to protect themselves against pedos and others (usually people that are known to them or that they are taught to trust) where they should NOT be touched, especially the very young ones.

Children are being sexualized by parents in many other ways and always have been, but I don't see any outrage or endless ATS threads about paegents, groomers in church, etc.

These are what are considered 'normal' sexual behaviours without being groomed (up to 6-7 yrs. old):

» Touch and/or explore their own genitals in both public and private

» Interest in the anatomical differences between males and females (including nude pictures)

» Touch genitals/breasts on parents or familiar adults

» Look when people undress or go to the bathroom

» Ask about the genitals, breasts, intercourse, and babies

» Walk around nude

» Show genitals to other children

» Play doctor; interested in inspecting other people’s bodies

» Practice adult behaviour and roles by playing parental roles

protectchildren.ca...

What really is needed here is to educate some parents as to what is normal and what is not normal sexual inquiring and/or sexual play behaviour among children.

Here are snippets for normal behaviour for 8-12 yr olds.

- Girls pretending to be boys

- Touch own genitals (girls not so often) in public

- Practice adult behaviour and gender related roles

protectchildren.ca...

a reply to: quintessentone

you say that but as a survivor of abuse there is a reason why abusers have thousands of offences to be taken into account at sentencing or that the abuse goes on for decades, or millions of pictures, just 1 at a school can hurt generation after generation to belittle and diminish the damage 1 can do is why we are here and why some keep finding themselves defending abusers and rapists.. this is the rc church all over again..

as a survivor i find those who want to sexualise kids from a young age a red flag.. i've hasd all the labels but spent decades supporting others, i see the trans as a conveyor belt to either convert proto homosexuals or to gatekeep horrific abuse..

how does it protect from pedos, i know nothing would have changed my abuse, knowing the words would have only normalised it, and why would a child tell if its being normalise and made fun, not knowing anything means kids slip up and the secret slips out that gives teachers the clues they are being abused and clear knowledge of sexual activities is one massive clue.. your approach risks only protecting abusers and risks making you a gatekeeper of then abuse, which is something worth thinkingt about.

as a survivor i'm really not in the mood to read anything on child safety from a gov (canada) that has mass child graves not only of its indigenous population but also the children given to its care, after the santanic panic its not exactly a trusted source..

and that is the key issue evolving like covid trust even in allied govs/people is taking a hit alongside trust in national and international relations, its not just covid doing the damage..

as a roman catholic I do find it fascinating where the roman catholic portion of the anglosphere sits on these topics, canada, NZ and Australia being the clear rc majority countries as there is a religious dynamic how countries have embraced this..

a reply to: quintessentone

Multiple "one-off" events are not a one-off.

lol

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Multiple "one-off" events are not a one-off.

lol

its never one, on conviction its usually been going on for years, multiple generations or amounts to thousands or hundreds of thousands of images... this risks being a repetion of the rc scandal if not a much worse scandal and will be a staple of horror movies as the asylums are today..

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Multiple "one-off" events are not a one-off.

lol

Multiple "one-off" events within different schools or libraries are "one-offs" in that specific location, so still a one-off, and they are all different one-offs, so there ya go.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Multiple "one-off" events are not a one-off.

lol

Multiple "one-off" events within different schools or libraries are "one-offs" in that specific location, so still a one-off, and they are all different one-offs, so there ya go.

Multiple one-offs.

Jumbo shrimp

Military Intelligence.

I haven't seen this much stretching since that time I tried to bend over to pick up a donut.

lol

a reply to: nickyw

Alternatively, children and parents forewarned are forearmed, so we each have our own experiences and can relate differently. As for not being in the mood to read up-to-date educational materials that will teach parents what is and what is not normal, or normal sexual behaviour in children, that is your choice, but it has nothing to do with helping pedos, quite the opposite.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Multiple "one-off" events are not a one-off.

lol

Multiple "one-off" events within different schools or libraries are "one-offs" in that specific location, so still a one-off, and they are all different one-offs, so there ya go.

Multiple one-offs.

Jumbo shrimp

Military Intelligence.

I haven't seen this much stretching since that time I tried to bend over to pick up a donut.

lol

One-off e.g. #1: private school handing out dildos... show me another instance where this happened.

One-off e.g. #2: teacher gives out writing assignment: sexual fantasy; no oral, no penetration...show me another example.

I will go on if I have to, please deal with those two first. Thanks.

a reply to: quintessentone

The first time is a one-off. Hence the word, "one".

The second time is maybe a coincidence.

The third time is a trend or agenda.

It'd be easier if you folks would just come out of the closet (heh) and admit that you're okay with sexualizing children.

Because you are by defending this.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

The first time is a one-off. Hence the word, "one".

The second time is maybe a coincidence.

The third time is a trend or agenda.

It'd be easier if you folks would just come out of the closet (heh) and admit that you're okay with sexualizing children.

Because you are by defending this.

That tactic won't work because I am not defending sexualization of children, I am pointing out truths about transgendered people not being the ones sexualizing children...it's some parents, friends of parents, church officials, coaches, camp counsellors...anyone with access to a child.

I am opposing the demonization of any minority for biased reasons, where said biased reasons have no basis in truth.

a reply to: quintessentone

Someone stated that it's white liberal women who are doing this.

Maybe the gals ought to be making sandwiches instead of pushing agendas meant to sexualize children.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: quintessentone

Someone stated that it's white liberal women who are doing this.

Maybe the gals ought to be making sandwiches instead of pushing agendas meant to sexualize children.

Why don't you start a thread on that topic and let's see where it gets you.