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LGBTQ Pride Storybooks in Maryland Public Schools - the battle of national interest

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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:50 PM
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This is just such good science I had to post again.

Thanks for that. From your source:


and 20% identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer/pansexual, and/ or transgender (LGBTQ). The proportion of LGBTQ people in our sample is almost four times that of a recent national estimate of LGBTQ identification among adults in the United States (5.6%).


Literally offending at 4x their rate in the population



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:50 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: DBCowboy

It's the character of a person that defines them.



I wish they'd teach THAT in schools.



They do and one of the books mentioned in the OP does just that. The only difference is the character is of a transgendered child or a young child questioning.

www.youtube.com...


You're just another person attempting to justify this attack towards children.

Have a nice day.


I am trying to understand where the attack towards children is, I still can't find it.


I know.

And that's sad.


As per this thread subject, show me which of the books mentioned is an attack towards children.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ABlackCat
Notice that the teachers caught are almost never LGBT?

What do you think about that?


The report at the link below clearly show LGBTQ and cisgender are equal in sex offenses, it's an interesting study to read. The only problem is that transgendered people and others are not segregated out from the mainstream LGBTQ - they lump them all into one group so we can't get a handle on the 'grooming' children faction.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...


See everyone? This is how the discussion is done with citations and references. 20 pages in!


Thanks for that. From your source:


and 20% identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer/pansexual, and/ or transgender (LGBTQ). The proportion of LGBTQ people in our sample is almost four times that of a recent national estimate of LGBTQ identification among adults in the United States (5.6%).


Literally offending at 4x their rate in the population


I haven't read the entire thing. Is that the rate from within the pubic school system?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: Halfswede
This is just such good science I had to post again.

Thanks for that. From your source:


and 20% identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer/pansexual, and/ or transgender (LGBTQ). The proportion of LGBTQ people in our sample is almost four times that of a recent national estimate of LGBTQ identification among adults in the United States (5.6%).


Literally offending at 4x their rate in the population


I had to respond again too, what percentage are transgendered and what percentage offended against children...we need a breakdown.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ABlackCat

Why dont you articulate your side....


lol

It'd be interesting how they can say that teaching sexual preferences to children isn't sexualizing them.

(making popcorn)


That's a contradictory statement.


Lets try another then.

"It'd be interesting how they can say that teaching calculus, algebra, geometry to children isn't teaching them math."


That's an inverted statement. It implies that those courses aren't teaching math.



*Awaits the audible click....*


?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Why are they all grouped together?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ABlackCat
Notice that the teachers caught are almost never LGBT?

What do you think about that?


The report at the link below clearly show LGBTQ and cisgender are equal in sex offenses, it's an interesting study to read. The only problem is that transgendered people and others are not segregated out from the mainstream LGBTQ - they lump them all into one group so we can't get a handle on the 'grooming' children faction.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...


See everyone? This is how the discussion is done with citations and references. 20 pages in!


Yea?

So the cisgender population and the LGBBQ populations are also equal then?


I do not know. I haven't read the entire thing. But perhaps you had better learn one or two things from this guy on how to make proper discussions.


My post history is readily available.

Still waiting on your articulated position while were on that topic....


I have already given that. Annee understood the irony in your statement. I can't make you understand it.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ABlackCat
Notice that the teachers caught are almost never LGBT?

What do you think about that?


The report at the link below clearly show LGBTQ and cisgender are equal in sex offenses, it's an interesting study to read. The only problem is that transgendered people and others are not segregated out from the mainstream LGBTQ - they lump them all into one group so we can't get a handle on the 'grooming' children faction.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...


See everyone? This is how the discussion is done with citations and references. 20 pages in!


Yea?

So the cisgender population and the LGBBQ populations are also equal then?


I do not know. I haven't read the entire thing. But perhaps you had better learn one or two things from this guy on how to make proper discussions.


My post history is readily available.

Still waiting on your articulated position while were on that topic....


I have already given that. Annee understood the irony in your statement. I can't make you understand it.


There seems to be quite abit you and Annee can not articulate.

Especially when it applies to deductive reasoning, analog and logic.




posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ABlackCat
Notice that the teachers caught are almost never LGBT?

What do you think about that?


The report at the link below clearly show LGBTQ and cisgender are equal in sex offenses, it's an interesting study to read. The only problem is that transgendered people and others are not segregated out from the mainstream LGBTQ - they lump them all into one group so we can't get a handle on the 'grooming' children faction.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...


See everyone? This is how the discussion is done with citations and references. 20 pages in!


Yea?

So the cisgender population and the LGBBQ populations are also equal then?


I do not know. I haven't read the entire thing. But perhaps you had better learn one or two things from this guy on how to make proper discussions.


My post history is readily available.

Still waiting on your articulated position while were on that topic....


I have already given that. Annee understood the irony in your statement. I can't make you understand it.


There seems to be quite abit you and Annee can not articulate.

Especially when it applies to deductive reasoning, analog and logic.



Heh. The irony again.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ABlackCat
Notice that the teachers caught are almost never LGBT?

What do you think about that?


The report at the link below clearly show LGBTQ and cisgender are equal in sex offenses, it's an interesting study to read. The only problem is that transgendered people and others are not segregated out from the mainstream LGBTQ - they lump them all into one group so we can't get a handle on the 'grooming' children faction.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...


See everyone? This is how the discussion is done with citations and references. 20 pages in!


Yea?

So the cisgender population and the LGBBQ populations are also equal then?


I do not know. I haven't read the entire thing. But perhaps you had better learn one or two things from this guy on how to make proper discussions.


My post history is readily available.

Still waiting on your articulated position while were on that topic....


I have already given that. Annee understood the irony in your statement. I can't make you understand it.


There seems to be quite abit you and Annee can not articulate.

Especially when it applies to deductive reasoning, analog and logic.



Heh. The irony again.


You keep using that word........


Anyhow, there are some open questions:
1. Why are LGBTect all lumped together statistically?
2. Are the LGBTect and cisgendered peoples equal in population as reflected in the criminal statistical data provided?

Bonus question:
Are drag queens sexual in general or not?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: ABlackCat
Notice that the teachers caught are almost never LGBT?

What do you think about that?


The report at the link below clearly show LGBTQ and cisgender are equal in sex offenses, it's an interesting study to read. The only problem is that transgendered people and others are not segregated out from the mainstream LGBTQ - they lump them all into one group so we can't get a handle on the 'grooming' children faction.

williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu...


See everyone? This is how the discussion is done with citations and references. 20 pages in!


Yea?

So the cisgender population and the LGBBQ populations are also equal then?


I do not know. I haven't read the entire thing. But perhaps you had better learn one or two things from this guy on how to make proper discussions.


My post history is readily available.

Still waiting on your articulated position while were on that topic....


I have already given that. Annee understood the irony in your statement. I can't make you understand it.


There seems to be quite abit you and Annee can not articulate.

Especially when it applies to deductive reasoning, analog and logic.



Heh. The irony again.


You keep using that word........


Anyhow, there are some open questions:
1. Why are LGBTect all lumped together statistically?
2. Are the LGBTect and cisgendered peoples equal in population as reflected in the criminal statistical data provided?

Bonus question:
Are drag queens sexual in general or not?


1. There are many who don't want T lumped together as it has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
2. Criminal offenses in general?
3. Drag Queens are there to perform shows.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: ABlackCat




1. There are many who don't want T lumped together as it has nothing to do with sexual orientation.


Indeed. There is also a group knows as "Gays Against Groomers." Why would a group like this need to exist.....?




2. Criminal offenses in general?


"reflected in the criminal statistical data provided." As in provided in this thread.




3. Drag Queens are there to perform shows.


That wasn't my question....



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: quintessentone

My personal thoughts buried some pages back:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I've asked dbcowboy and now I'll ask you, which of the books mentioned in the opening post are attacking children?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI


Indeed. There is also a group knows as "Gays Against Groomers." Why would a group like this need to exist.....?


Because of people like you.




"reflected in the criminal statistical data provided." As in provided in this thread.


I haven't read the pdf in it's entirety. There needs to be a break down in the population WITHIN school system.



That wasn't my question....


Okay then the answer is no.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

This explains a lot.




The founder of Gays Against Groomers, Jaimee Michell, and her partners are former ultra-MAGA Trump followers who spread anti-transgender propaganda with QAnon conspiracy theories and links to extremist militias, according to a Media Matters for America investigation published last week.

In response to accusations that it spreads homophobia and transphobia, GAG claims that, as a “coalition of gay people,” it and its members cannot possibly spread anti-LGBTQ+ propaganda. Furthermore, they claim that any attack on the group is homophobic.

However, GAG is not a grassroots initiative but a right-wing project seeking to gain political and financial advantage by using anti-trans rhetoric, according to the left-leaning media watchdog.





Media Matters found that GAG isn’t Michell's first venture in far-right social media circles. She was a prolific MAGA Twitter user in 2016 and 2017, often peddling QAnon conspiracy theories.


www.advocate.com...-gdpr
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posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: quintessentone

My personal thoughts buried some pages back:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I've asked dbcowboy and now I'll ask you, which of the books mentioned in the opening post are attacking children?


Maybe drag queens in underwear with leather whips are attacking them?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: ABlackCat

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: quintessentone

My personal thoughts buried some pages back:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I've asked dbcowboy and now I'll ask you, which of the books mentioned in the opening post are attacking children?


Maybe drag queens in underwear with leather whips are attacking them?


Only in some people's minds.



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: ABlackCat




Because of people like you.


Me? Are you insinuating I'm a groomer? On what evidence?




I haven't read the pdf in it's entirety. There needs to be a break down in the population WITHIN school system.


It's literally one page.....




Okay then the answer is no.


So you don't believe drag queens are sexualized in general.

So, question, even the most liberal of terms describes a drag queen as a man dressed as a woman with exaggerated features. What are those features?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: quintessentone

"Ultra Maga Trump followers...."

Why should I take a source that has severe bias seriously?



posted on Aug, 14 2023 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ABlackCat




Because of people like you.


Me? Are you insinuating I'm a groomer? On what evidence?




I haven't read the pdf in it's entirety. There needs to be a break down in the population WITHIN school system.


It's literally one page.....




Okay then the answer is no.


So you don't believe drag queens are sexualized in general.

So, question, even the most liberal of terms describes a drag queen as a man dressed as a woman with exaggerated features. What are those features?


You know very well a drag queen putting on an X rated show dresses much differently than when reading an inclusivity book to children.

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