LGBTQ Pride Storybooks in Maryland Public Schools - the battle of national interest

originally posted by: Annee

How many LGBTQ+ individuals have you personally encountered that made an issue of pronouns?

I know about 4 or 5 that correct me if I use the wrong ones. These are people I know and I just tell them... sorry boomer.

But that wasn't my point which was there are no limits with the progressive left as they take good ideas and just keep evolving them until they spiral down rabbit holes of bad.

originally posted by: nickyw

what ages does a child really need to know the inns and outs of sex.. in the uk average age of first intercourse is 16 for hetroasexuals and 198 fr homosexuals, teaching that stuff to year 3 feels totally premature, it also prevents identification of those children who are being abused when they display inappropriate sexual knowledge.

I was actually being sarcastic in my post, but one of my big concerns with my boys growing up was to have them not grow up too fast. Let them enjoy the different stages of life, let boys be boys and young adults be young adults etc...

originally posted by: Annee

Issue before that was sex Ed.

Which was so dumb. Actually had nothing to do with sex.

It was about the biological changes boys and girls go through, period... Later once in high school sex is talked about in terms of protection, understanding no means no, etc etc that all can benefit from.

I keep asking you and others that if we have come so far now in a positive direction why do we need this over-the-top increase in sexual awareness pushed to lower and lower ages? You keep going back to the 50s or something in response and I'm talking about today, now...

a reply to: Xtrozero

that went straight over my head obviously

i was the same with my 3 boys.. not really much faster than mine, each is different and to each their own season to learn and grow..

on a serious note we know the averages in each country that the youth experiment with different things so timing lessons is key, 15/16 for hetrosexual sex, 17/18 for homosexual sex even lowering the age of homosexual sex hasn't lowered the age the young are ready so i find it a red flag when people try to push them to be ready, its either abusive or an attempt at grooming.

i do honestly think our society pivots more on this than any other topic.

originally posted by: nickyw

on a serious note we know the averages in each country that the youth experiment with different things so timing lessons is key, 15/16 for hetrosexual sex, 17/18 for homosexual sex even lowering the age of homosexual sex hasn't lowered the age the young are ready so i find it a red flag when people try to push them to be ready, its either abusive or an attempt at grooming.

i do honestly think our society pivots more on this than any other topic.

One concerning thing that we are finding is that there is a large number of actual pedophiles out there than what was thought in the past... That is a large population of people whose brains are wired differently to have sexual desires for the young. It is incurable as it is at a biological level just as psychopaths are. Recently in England, they broke up an online pedo site with 70,000 followers.

So this is why I see the desire by many to keep pushing the normalizing of sex to lower and lower ages, and the alphabet community is giving them at some level a pass since they are a marginalized group too.

a reply to: Xtrozero

The singular concern is to leave the children alone.

The left doesn't want to do that. And I say, "The Left" because it is a singular unifying issue with them.

I don't know anyone to the right of that ideology that thinks it's a good idea.

a reply to: FlyersFan2

all you have to do is tell a leftist somebody is a minority and being mistreated, if you make it sound official and throw some numbers in the will go fully militant over it. Unless they are Christians or conservatives, they should all die.

I have yet to find one thing a gay or trans person cannot do that other groups can..are there any?

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Annee

How many LGBTQ+ individuals have you personally encountered that made an issue of pronouns?

I know about 4 or 5 that correct me if I use the wrong ones. These are people I know and I just tell them... sorry boomer.

But that wasn't my point which was there are no limits with the progressive left as they take good ideas and just keep evolving them until they spiral down rabbit holes of bad.

I was a 40+ year Goldwater Republican. Now unaffiliated.

But am forever thankful I was raided with free thought, an open mind, and metaphysical thinking back in the 50s before it was a thing.

Your adult fears are manufactured.

I don’t think it’s even about the kids.

originally posted by: Annee

I was a 40+ year Goldwater Republican. Now unaffiliated.
But am forever thankful I was raided with free thought, an open mind, and metaphysical thinking back in the 50s before it was a thing.

Well look at you...

Your adult fears are manufactured.

I don’t think it’s even about the kids.

Whatever... fear... lol Pissed is a better emotion to suggest.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xtrozero

The singular concern is to leave the children alone.

The left doesn't want to do that. And I say, "The Left" because it is a singular unifying issue with them.

I don't know anyone to the right of that ideology that thinks it's a good idea.

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Nice generalization. What you are not understanding is that we do understand what you are saying.

You are pissed off at something that doesn't exist or a figment of far right's imagination.

originally posted by: infp1986
I have yet to find one thing a gay or trans person cannot do that other groups can..are there any?

That is like asking a Black person the same question.

I haven't looked at the Pride Puppy book, so this might not be directly related.

But I found this interesting. Apparently within the LGBTQ community, is a community known as the Puppy Play Community. They have their own flag called the Puppy Pride Flag. Put simply, it is roleplaying as a dog.

Sick people "hide" within the LGBTQ community.

Those that are into children especially. Also, those that are into animals. Basically any type of sexuality that is not heterosexual. These types are the ones pushing the line and agendas.

Please note that I have no animosity towards normal people within the LGBTQ community. My concerns don't make me closed minded or bigoted. There is a real problem that is being ignored either by intent or ignorance.

I'm not behind the times because I take issue with degeneracy. Nor am I calling all people in the LGBTQ community degenerates. I do not have a problem with children being taught and made aware that there are various walks of life people take and learning to respect that. Nor do I have a problem with children having support in dealing with their own emotions and feelings as they grow out of adolescence.

Red flags abound however, when there is a clear push to sexualize children and normalize certain behaviors that are abnormal and immoral. There is no reason children need to be taught how to masturbate, how to consent, how to experiment with each other. Lead towards gender affirmation care which may or may not include surgery. Told by teachers not to talk about these things with their parents. Parents demonized by school districts, telling their kids their parents wouldn't understand (STUCK?). School districts hiding this type of curriculum. And so on..

While all that type of stuff may not be widespread, it is happening. And little by little it will continue to move forward.

It's called grooming.

If you are part of the LGBTQ community and are not for those things, then I say to you that I am very sorry that there are those out there who are, and they are giving you a bad name by association. They are not the types to be accepted. They are a cancer within pushing a sick agenda under the guise of being oppressed, misunderstood, and unaccepted.

IMO

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
I haven't looked at the Pride Puppy book, so this might not be directly related.

But I found this interesting. Apparently within the LGBTQ community, is a community known as the Puppy Play Community. They have their own flag called the Puppy Pride Flag. Put simply, it is roleplaying as a dog.

Sick people "hide" within the LGBTQ community.

Those that are into children especially. Also, those that are into animals. Basically any type of sexuality that is not heterosexual. These types are the ones pushing the line and agendas.

Please note that I have no animosity towards normal people within the LGBTQ community. My concerns don't make me closed minded or bigoted. There is a real problem that is being ignored either by intent or ignorance.

I'm not behind the times because I take issue with degeneracy. Nor am I calling all people in the LGBTQ community degenerates. I do not have a problem with children being taught and made aware that there are various walks of life people take and learning to respect that. Nor do I have a problem with children having support in dealing with their own emotions and feelings as they grow out of adolescence.

Red flags abound however, when there is a clear push to sexualize children and normalize certain behaviors that are abnormal and immoral. There is no reason children need to be taught how to masturbate, how to consent, how to experiment with each other. Lead towards gender affirmation care which may or may not include surgery. Told by teachers not to talk about these things with their parents. Parents demonized by school districts, telling their kids their parents wouldn't understand (STUCK?). School districts hiding this type of curriculum. And so on..

While all that type of stuff may not be widespread, it is happening. And little by little it will continue to move forward.

It's called grooming.

If you are part of the LGBTQ community and are not for those things, then I say to you that I am very sorry that there are those out there who are, and they are giving you a bad name by association. They are not the types to be accepted. They are a cancer within pushing a sick agenda under the guise of being oppressed, misunderstood, and unaccepted.

IMO

No idea why you wanted to bring in the Pride Puppy flag but as to the rest of your post, you're preaching to the choir.

a reply to: Annee

But am forever thankful I was raided with free thought, an open mind, and metaphysical thinking back in the 50s before it was a thing.

Would be nice that if that was reflected in your comments here on ATS.


Someday hopefully.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Annee

But am forever thankful I was raided with free thought, an open mind, and metaphysical thinking back in the 50s before it was a thing.

Would be nice that if that was reflected in your comments here on ATS.


Someday hopefully.

When it’s warranted.

a reply to: ABlackCat

Oh, it was just because when I was trying to Google the book I typed it in wrong and that other stuff came up. And with my opinions on the agenda and the darker side of the community it felt potentially relevant.

Dunno if the puppy in the book from the OP is just a puppy, or something more sinister.

Can't find a place to actually look at the book for myself at the moment.

A lot of these new programs, sexual indoctrination and grooming reminds me of the programs in Huxley's Brave New World, where children in conditioning centers were actively encouraged to play sex games and self exploration of one's body (back in the old days they called it "playing doctor" and it happened in private settings naturally) because being hypersexualized was a dominant part of societal control for certain classes in that society.

The problem is, this isn't a Brave New World, and not everyone is kosher with these ideas being presented to their children in a state funded school setting.

They should be allowed to remove their children from these presentations because that's the right on parents on how their chldren are being educated, and not every child needs to become sexually indoctrinated into another group dynamics methodologies for child rearing in this arena.

Not every little kid wants to be a drag queen, not every kid is up for "exploring their gender identity" and becoming a member of society that indulges in such expressions. Not every little girl needs or wants to open an OnlyFans, not every little boy is destined to become or participate in the LGBT community of sex fetish clubs.

While I have no problems teaching tolerance, I do have a problem when they push for techniques and practices and instructions on how to perform certain functions at home for the purpose of experimentation.

Back in the day, kids learned these things from friends, parents or social circles at their own pace in at their own time.

Conversely, some household teach their children that sex is a sin and masturabtion is dirty, and there are countless sexual health therapists who will correlate the number of clients who struggle with these types of beleif systems being instilled on them from and early age from being raised in authoritative households.

Some people view sex as purely and act of procreation, to be used in discretion only with the intent of creating life and no other time.

There are some who view sex as nothing more as a act of pleasure or self expression, some who view it as a high art and sacred act to be taken care to engage an entire ritual because it is the joining of sacred masculine and feminine energies.

There's a whole lot of different views out there about sex.

My opinion anyway and what I'm getting at, is if parents don't want their children exposed to this new agenda, pulll your kids out of school and start homeschooling, or else look for a scholarship at a privately funded school that aligns with your Family's particular value system.

I don't relish the idea of having the public school teaching how to use a buttplug.

Teaching about the human physiology and how conception and life occurs as a result of engaging in these behaviors and the risk of such an event happening and procedures to take if you decide to experiement and don't want to commit to the possiblity of acccidentally creating a new life, sure. Yeah. That's scientific and valid.

I mean, if it was me I'd have high school level sex ed classes on the techniques of the Kama Sutra and teach people that there's more to it than just the ol' in out in out, but the internet is full or videos on techniques, from what I understand they're very popular.

Sorry I ramble on.

It's crazy and mess up but the book Pride Puppy contains not such sexual indoctrination.

It just shows the adventures of a loving gay couple and their Family, it's not Illuminati Sex Cults secretly slipping in subliminals to brainwash your children into sexual bondage.

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
a reply to: ABlackCat

Oh, it was just because when I was trying to Google the book I typed it in wrong and that other stuff came up. And with my opinions on the agenda and the darker side of the community it felt potentially relevant.

Dunno if the puppy in the book from the OP is just a puppy, or something more sinister.

Can't find a place to actually look at the book for myself at the moment.

Pride Puppy is the story of two women taking their children to a Pride parade, where their puppy gets lost

It's an innocent book. Nothing sexual about it.