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Unraveling the Mystery: Are Recent Alien Phenomena a Smokescreen for Something More Sinister?

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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:05 PM
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Greetings, fellow seekers of truth,

In recent weeks, the world has been abuzz with strange and mysterious events. The alien testimony before Congress, the alien encounter in Peru, and bizarre incidents on planes have grabbed headlines and captured the imaginations of many.

These sensational stories are being pushed by mainstream media – the same sources that many of us feel misled the public during the COVID crisis. This leads me to exercise caution and skepticism towards what is being presented versus the reality behind the scenes.

These so-called mysteries share a puzzling trait: they're like intricate LARPs (Live Action Role-Playing games). They offer no concrete answers, only more questions that lead us down rabbit holes with no apparent end. Could this be intentional? Are we being led astray to divert our attention?

I can't shake the feeling that Occam's Razor applies here, and these events may be elaborate distractions. By keeping us engaged in these unsolvable enigmas, are we being prevented from focusing on real issues that matter? Whether it's the the U.S. President, the implementation of CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency), or the ongoing tension between Western and Eastern powers, there may be something more profound hidden beneath the surface.

I invite you all to share your thoughts, insights, and investigations into these mysteries. Together, we might uncover what lies behind the smoke and mirrors. Let's remain vigilant, critical, and unswayed by attempts to divert our attention from the truth.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:20 PM
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Hypothetically speaking, someone stumbles upon a trafficking operation that can't be legally explained by the government, so disinformation personnel craft a story about how the government has a top secret program involving aliens. Maybe they say something like, part of the deal with the aliens, is an exchange of humans for technology. (Sound familiar?)

Hypothetically speaking, of course.


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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:26 PM
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The MSM has ignored or ridiculed the UFO phenomena for sixty years. Now that a few of the smaller outlets have rather reluctantly begun to cover some of the issues because, you know, Congress is holding hearings on it, you say it is a conspiracy? LOL! It's the MSM that has caused the smoke and mirrors and diverted people from the truth in the first place. I invite you to read a few books on this subject. There are several thousand to choose from.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:27 PM
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a reply to: eitea


Maybe you have it Backwards?


Could concerns like Politics (US and World), Economics, and Social divisions Be the Actual Diversions, while the real truth is hurtling toward us to change everything we thought we knew?


Occam's Razor?


Isn't your whole post a solid argument that it is far more "comfortable" to ponder the questions we are familiar with, as opposed those we have barely begun to perceive.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: IndieA

I hear you, and the scenario you've described does ring a bell. It reminds me somewhat of David Icke's narrative about powerful lizard people who commit terrible acts against humanity. Some might say that this fantastical theory serves to obscure a more unsettling and plausible reality: the existence of sadistic high-functioning psychopaths in positions of power. The mention of human trafficking in your hypothetical situation also caught my attention. While it may seem out of context with Grusch's narrative, it aligns more closely with the growing global awareness of an inner circle of powerful individuals involved in such criminal activities. It's a sobering thought, one that underscores the importance of questioning the stories we're told and seeking the truth that might lie beneath.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

The MSM has ignored or ridiculed the UFO phenomena for sixty years.

I appreciate your perspective on the subject, and I can see where you're coming from. However, the question I'm trying to pose here is: why the sudden shift in narrative from mainstream media (MSM)? Is it really a collective awakening to the truth, or might it be something more calculated?

I understand your suggestion to delve into some of the literature on this topic. While I was indeed fascinated by UFOs almost two decades ago, I eventually found myself at a crossroads similar to religious belief, where proof is elusive, and belief becomes a personal choice. Many books out there may claim to offer unbiased insights, but personal experiences and convictions don't necessarily translate into concrete evidence.

That said, I'm more than willing to engage with well-founded arguments and analysis of current events. If you have specific insights or information that shed light on the recent media shift or the mysteries themselves, I'd be very interested to hear them. My goal is to approach this subject with an open, yet critical mind, focusing on objective truth rather than sensationalism or belief.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

You make an interesting point, but I think we might be veering off track. Let's not forget the basics here. While mysteries and unknown truths can be intriguing, they don't feed us or keep us warm at night.

Look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The very foundation of our lives depends on things like warmth, security, food, and a functioning society. These are the real, tangible issues that affect people every single day.

Sure, it's fascinating to ponder what might be "hurtling toward us," but that doesn't change the fact that people are struggling with concrete problems right now. That's where my focus is, and that's why I question the sudden media attention on sensational topics.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: eitea
a reply to: schuyler

That said, I'm more than willing to engage with well-founded arguments and analysis of current events. If you have specific insights or information that shed light on the recent media shift or the mysteries themselves, I'd be very interested to hear them. My goal is to approach this subject with an open, yet critical mind, focusing on objective truth rather than sensationalism or belief.


Everybody says that. In fifty years of studying the subject nothing has changed. The arguments are the same. People fall all over themselves patting themselves on the back over how skeptical and objective they say they are. That's nice. The fact is, UFOs are real. It's not a matter of opinion. What they are and why they are here is certainly up for discussion, but it doesn't matter if someone says they don't exist. Their belief is not necessary nor required. Frankly, it's a complete waste of energy to enter into a debate over whether the phenomenon is real. We are past that. There is no value in going back to the beginning except perhaps for historical analyses.

The thing that has recently changed is that the MSM is, ever so slightly, reporting on this issue. And what happens? They are immediately attacked. And what happened when they refused to take the phenomenon seriously despite ample evidence over fifty years? They were attacked. The MSM can do nothing right. Whatever position they take is attacked. This tells me there is something wrong with how people judge the MSM and the UFO topic. People are NOT recognizing "objective truth" at all. They are as biased as they ever were. The phenomenon does not require your belief. If you still insist on debating the topic at that level, you will be left behind.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Perhaps nothing has truly changed because there is still no solid proof of E.T. existence? We have stories of personal experiences, but those may or may not be true.

UFOs existing as a fact? Absolutely! As we all know, UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object, so anything unrecognizable in the sky, even a neighbor's drone or frisbee, can qualify. The real question is whether any of these sightings are of extraterrestrial origin, and this narrative still lacks solid proof beyond anecdotes in books that may be fictional or embellished.

I haven't criticized the mainstream media for failing to cover the E.T. narrative, so it seems you may be addressing a different argument here.

As I said earlier, belief in extraterrestrial existence often ends up being a personal choice, much like religious faith. Without concrete evidence, it remains a matter of individual belief and interpretation.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: eitea

And have you taken into your focus thr fact that each and every one of those "needs", which you acknowledge as "The very foundation of our lives.." has been, and is a "commodity" provided and controlled by a power structure based on ensuring Its own position as "first among equals" by allocating the means to those needs, while reinforcing the belief that they are increasingly scarce?


Which is a paradigm that would be sorely tested if a viable alternate paradigm presents itself from "somewhere else".


You seem to be asking us to "keep our noses to the grindstone".


But doing so, makes it only more difficult to keep our eyes on the Prize.


Perhaps that is the intention?
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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

Are you saying that American's need's are provided for and controlled, because of US primacy?



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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

You raise some thought-provoking points, and I appreciate your perspective. It's an intriguing thought that politics, economics, and social divisions themselves might be diversions. However, I believe it's essential to recognize the very real and immediate consequences these structures can have on our lives.

If politicians decide to use your country as a battlefield to please the military-industrial complex, the devastation and loss become all too real. If there are individuals in power capable of committing atrocious acts, such as kidnapping children, the horror is not a diversion but a genuine threat that demands our attention and action. And if an entire country is run by a criminal family, it affects your everyday life in ways that are tangible and profound.

While I acknowledge the idea that sensational stories might be used as distractions, I can't overlook the very real dangers and issues that stem from power structures and the entities controlling them. These are not abstract concerns or mere distractions but part of a complex web of control that affects us on multiple levels.

The idea of a "viable alternate paradigm" is particularly interesting. What might this look like, and where could it come from? Are we ready to challenge the established structures, and if so, how do we begin to uncover what may be hidden?

Your insights provoke deeper reflection on what constitutes distraction and what might be concealed behind it. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this, as we continue to explore these ideas together.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Are you saying that American's need's are provided for and controlled, because of US primacy?





No.


I am saying Human needs are provided under the control of those other Humans that to which human society has surrendered its collective autonomy.
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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: eitea

I'm starting to think Biden is the distraction and this is what they want to sweep under the rug



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: djz3ro

Consider the possibility that if Biden is viewed as a distraction, it may well be to divert attention from the wrongdoings of those who orchestrated his rise to power. Imagine a hypothetical scenario in which key figures wielding influence are guilty of crimes so severe that they could be punished with life imprisonment or even the death penalty. The desperation of those individuals to shift public focus away from their actions, to prevent scrutiny, and to avoid accountability would be unparalleled. Their attempts to mask their crimes could lead to an orchestrated series of diversions, creating a complex web of deception that demands our critical examination and vigilance.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:20 PM
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Not so much a distraction but wanting us all to become interested in UAP s so when something bigger happens we won’t question it and can blame it on ‘them’. More believers are needed



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: violet

Indeed, your suggestion that the interest in UAPs might be part of a larger scheme to keep the narrative alive for future use is compelling. Reflecting on recent events, it appears that this narrative may be undergoing an accelerated testing phase, where those in power are gauging how well it resonates with the public.

Rather than committing to a full-scale media campaign, they may be strategically using only a fraction of mass media resources – say, 10% – to study reactions. This approach allows them to assess the feasibility of deploying the operation on a grander scale. By carefully gauging the public's response, they can fine-tune their strategy, ensuring that if or when the full plan is unveiled, it will have the desired impact.

Your insight adds another layer of complexity to this discussion and encourages us to be even more discerning about the information we consume and the potential underlying agendas. Thank you for contributing to this thought-provoking conversation.



posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Are you saying that American's need's are provided for and controlled, because of US primacy?





No.


I am saying Human needs are provided under the control of those other Humans that to which human society has surrendered its collective autonomy.



So human need's are provided for, and controlled by, humans. Got it.


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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: eitea
a reply to: Mantiss2021


The idea of a "viable alternate paradigm" is particularly interesting. What might this look like, and where could it come from? Are we ready to challenge the established structures, and if so, how do we begin to uncover what may be hidden?



You opened this thread with the idea that the current media "buzz" regarding UFO's/UAP's might be no more than a means of distracting the public's attention away from what you consider to be larger, more "immediate" issues.


My point is that each and every one of the "more immediate issues" you allude to has, at its heart, this concept you recognize as "power/control"; that is the ability to influence, positively or negatively, the access others have to the satisfaction of those basic "needs" your previously referred to.


With regard to "viable alternatives", let's consider the "distraction" being presented: Intelligent Lifeforms from "somewhere else (likely not Earth)" are, and have been visiting our home world, and appear to demonstrate technological capabilities far beyond what we have, or can even conceive.


Beyond the astounding fact that Intelligent life might exist beyond Earth, and that it apparently has seen its way to prove its existence by "introducing" itself to us (rather than await our arrival on its home planet), there is the question of its technological ability to travel what must be the vast distance between its home and ours.

And the distance must be truly vast, since there has been nothing to indicate, or even hint, that these visitors originate anywhere in our solar system; which leaves only some other star as their starting point. The nearest star system is lightyears away.


The fact of their journey implies (requires, actually) a technological level of mastery that we could only imagine. Even traveling at the speed of light, they would have to provide all their physical needs for the years their trip would require.

That kind of "closed-loop ecological management" alone would likely be capable of solving our planet's food and pollution problems.

The energy requirements required by their vessels would dwarf the total energy production of our entire planet.


You perhaps begin to see both the promise, and, if you are one of those humans whose status and position depends upon maintaining the "scarcity economy" that has been endemic in human society for millennia, the peril of a new challenge to the old paradigms you cherish.


ETA:

Even if it turns out that UFO's/UAP's remain "unknowns" but "real", the questions they might raise within the mainstream society could very well upend the perception and willingness to accept the heretofore unquestioned "norms" of resource scarcity and allocation.


Much in the way the lock down stemming from the pandemic have lead to the re-examination, re-evaluation, and large-scale rejection of many of the old ideas about work.
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posted on Aug, 10 2023 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: IndieA

originally posted by: Mantiss2021

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Are you saying that American's need's are provided for and controlled, because of US primacy?





No.


I am saying Human needs are provided under the control of those other Humans that to which human society has surrendered its collective autonomy.



So human need's are provided for, and controlled by, humans. Got it.




Humans, who for no better reason, have elevated themselves above their fellow humans. Albeit with, in most cases, the unthinking consent of those that subject themselves to control.



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