What is it about the Alien/UFO topic can’t we handle?

I beg to differ here, they may have a bit more than us, but not to the extent a lot of people believe. Thing like Milabs, or TR3B, all these are ET things that simulate human things, not the other way around. There is a power struggle, but the elites are not much better off then normal people, they are still dying and getting old. The most cherished thing is to stop aging, but they can't do that.

originally posted by: PurpleFox
Because it will prove that governments around the world have been holding onto technology that could have advanced the human race by hundreds of years, however they held onto it due to greed and control.

The # are we paying taxes for if there’s free energy available?

You made a very good point there, not so much the ship's mate, but the beings. Oh boy, I can't fathom seeing one of them close by in a non-altered state of mind. No way Jose.
Besides, things like Cattle Mutilation, Missing 411, and plane disappearances, none of these is very enticing. IMO.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
It's so freaky strange off its head Earth shattering emotions crumbling jaw dropping experience when one has a CE with whatever these ships are, there is no way the general public will handle it. Everything in society will come to a standstill. One can't put into words how absolutely insane a CE can be. Nothing one does in normal life comes close. Totally mental. The population of Earth will in many cases go mad. Society will break down, people won't do what TPTB want them and educate them to do any more. It will be game over for the system we live in.

I keep remembering a program I watched about Dulce Base with Phil Schneider. That's some creepy stuff. But. I would not put it past our Government and the stuff they do. Stuff that the Govt used to do to its citizens and have been de classified to read is mind boggling. You cant tell me that the Govt has "learned its lesson" and is following ethical procedures now. The Govt's credibility with the public is not what it used to be. Given that, I do not think they would disclose evidence of UFO's simply because the US is a power hungry, greedy SOB and if we were able to somehow communicate with these aliens, we would find out stuff that the govt does not want us to find out about. I do remember reading a article from a former Lockheed Martin Engineer who said he worked next to aliens.

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originally posted by: Xtrozero


I just find it too easy to blame the secret Government for why we do not have real proof.

Perhaps that is the crux of the question. To people who had close experiences, or a £ureka moment, we don't need further proof for the existence of the anomalies. We start to interact with it, proof now is totally irrelevant to us. What becomes problematic is a common language with people outside the circle. For the people who deny the existence of the experience, the matter becomes how to survive or take advantage of their knowledge.
It is very much Diogenes proving that movement exists by walking from Zenon, who denies that movement ever exists. One can argue about the nature of the anomaly, that is debatable, but I refuse to come back to level one, to discuss something that a lot of people already have. The scientific establishment is a sold out, as much as our academies, too bad.

a reply to: malte85

if you look at it rationally, the probability that we have already been visited or had contact goes to zero.

The crux of the discussion regarding UFOs is: "Who dictates what is rational than what is irrational, what is legitimate thought than what is not" I spent a lot of time studying philosophy of science recently to confront this issue. The scientific establishment has been wrong so many times, it seems this is just one more time.

a reply to: JAGStorm

What is it about the Alien/UFO topic can’t we handle?

Aliens walking around showing their vaginas.
Link: 👉 twitter.com...

That this image is probably real. It is also of one of the beings that he sees, and have seen and been with.
He thinks it is real because of two things: the prominent vagina is immediately evident when you see them naked, but it is not commented on in the UFO Literature, because very few people actually see them, especially not naked.

a reply to: imitator

Someone on another thread mentioned that both of these were possibly the same race of aliens……the one on the the right is purported to be from the Area 51 Alien Interview…


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originally posted by: flamengo
but I refuse to come back to level one, to discuss something that a lot of people already have. The scientific establishment is a sold out, as much as our academies, too bad.

So here we are...

So how does the government, much less the whole world government keep something like this a secret when they have no power over it?

a reply to: Xtrozero
But do they? They only engage in "perception management". The rest is left to "them". The best answer to this one is the three levels of cover up as Vallee put it. The UFO cases have almost a deconstruction mechanism. However, a lot of people have recognized the pattern. The cases got repeated, names of places, and so forth, it is almost a code that is going through, and at the end of the day, is up to us to accept or not and bypass the establishment or not.
Btw, there are a lot of ppl who talk through the years regarding the cover-up, It didn't play to well for them. There is no incentive to be truthful.

a reply to: flamengo

'Thnx. I find critical thinking lacking in discussion. If one thinks of the advancement needed to transverse the stars?

Then they are too far ahead to want to eat us, breed w us, enslave us, mutilate our cows.

How do I know this? Because as far along as they would need to be to travel to and from Earth...they haven't. And they could of....

Their agenda is something different than the above.

God bless😎✌️

a reply to: mysterioustranger
Yes, critical thinking is the key that is missing, there are some stuff that are so easy to get through but people get stuck there, and that is for a reason. There was, and there sitll is, huge financial investments in skeptics and agents to push some agendas. Namely, there was nothing to be seen, and what there is, is ours, you are just too naive not to recognize that. That is just imposed on the general public as a manner of damage control. Narrative control, thought control, mental coercion, you name it. One place where such coercion is prominent is right here, in this very forum.

originally posted by: flamengo
Btw, there are a lot of ppl who talk through the years regarding the cover-up, It didn't play to well for them. There is no incentive to be truthful.

The problem is we can't stop the aliens from doing anything they want, so the whole government coverup would mean the aliens are working with them, or there is a reason we can't have physical proof all around outside of the government. I don't think aliens would care about the Government as they would be so advanced that there just isn't a prime directive. What this means is either the whole UFO phenomenon is a social construct, or the aliens are AI type explorer ships out on a mission and there is no directive to communicate and they are so advanced we can't catch one.

Self-replicating machines exploring the universe makes sense as they could be doing it for billions of years sending all their data back to a race long gone, but they just keep going based on their programming. This would explain why they are here and why we are not engaged with them on any level.

Other than that it is a social construct as there are reasonable examples of that. The best is the UFO phenomenon has evolved from a simple storyline to a very complex one all the while they are kept secret. Their ships have also evolved from simple designs to complex mega ships and that screams human imagination.

I don't know the answer but unless I see actual alien technology or bodies it is all a long-drafted story we all enjoy playing with.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

Their agenda is something different than the above.

Or there is no agenda and we can't do anything one way or another due to their advanced technology.

a reply to: Xtrozero
Ok, I have only partial disagreement right there, do agree on lots of things, therefore will respond accordingly later.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Congrats! You win today's prize!👍And IF they are US from the future? That's good news, because then obviously we made it.

originally posted by: flamengo

Ok, I have only partial disagreement right there, do agree on lots of things, therefore will respond accordingly later.

Just to add food for thought. Could it possibly be a mixture of both as in self-replicating AI explorer machines and a human construct piggybacking on the other part?

Unless they can exceed the speed of light as a lifeform there is no real chance to have live aliens around us. I personally see space-time as the hindrance to ever actually meeting another alien race, but machines can go on indefinitely without things like evolution or the limitations of a species as they also come and go while life, in general, continues on. It is said that self-replicating machines can cover the known universe in about 2 billion years flying just below the speed of light, life can't do that. It is kind of a sad thought that machines could be all over the place doing the job of alien races long gone billions of years ago.

originally posted by: mysterioustranger

Congrats! You win today's prize!👍And IF they are US from the future? That's good news, because then obviously we made it.

If they were from the future then realities would be branching off into infinite directions as each time they come a new reality branches off. Not a good thing as they would either stay here and live in the new reality or go back to something new. Now here is the big question of the day. If they could go back in time then could they also go forward again if that future is now not created? If one can not go forward because the future hasn't happened then someone coming back in time would be stuck and the future they knew would now be in a different reality.

What is it about the Alien/UFO topic can’t we handle?

I used to work with a woman who was a fundamentalist Christian. She said aliens don't exist because if they did they'd be in the bible. Since they aren't in the bible, they don't exist. That was her rather strong thought on the subject.

I don't think a lot of religious people could handle disclosure. It would blow up their world view and they'd have break downs. Seriously. And I say that as someone who prays every day.

originally posted by: flamengo
You made a very good point there, not so much the ship's mate, but the beings. Oh boy, I can't fathom seeing one of them close by in a non-altered state of mind. No way Jose.
Besides, things like Cattle Mutilation, Missing 411, and plane disappearances, none of these is very enticing. IMO.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
It's so freaky strange off its head Earth shattering emotions crumbling jaw dropping experience when one has a CE with whatever these ships are, there is no way the general public will handle it. Everything in society will come to a standstill. One can't put into words how absolutely insane a CE can be. Nothing one does in normal life comes close. Totally mental. The population of Earth will in many cases go mad. Society will break down, people won't do what TPTB want them and educate them to do any more. It will be game over for the system we live in.

Totally appreciate that mate. Know exactly where you are coming from regarding "things like Cattle Mutilation, Missing 411, and plane disappearances, none of these is very enticing" they don't appeal at all.

Never experienced grey types, humanoids, etc. Plenty of spacecraft, fleet of rhombus types travelling in a snake like movement one following the other also like on a pendulum as moving forward, possible mothership it was pretty immense slab of radiant white light, standard size discs on two occasions.

On the beings front, not sure if orbs pass but they do appear to have consciousness.

The fifty pence piece type with heiroglyphics carved into its yellow chest actually appeared to strut its shoulders (the tp sides of the fifty pence piece) as it moved towards us. Seemed to be a being. Looked like it meant business too.

The angle grinder white type angel light ufo orb, now I'd consider that a being. How it changed from a white type orb spewing sparks from it like an angle grinder on metal, to a brighter than bright whiter than white holier than holy light was insane, terrifying in some ways yet beautiful in another, drifting right in front of our faces as if checking us out. Absolutely mental.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: ancientlight

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
It's so freaky strange off its head Earth shattering emotions crumbling jaw dropping experience when one has a CE with whatever these ships are, there is no way the general public will handle it. Everything in society will come to a standstill. One can't put into words how absolutely insane a CE can be. Nothing one does in normal life comes close. Totally mental. The population of Earth will in many cases go mad. Society will break down, people won't do what TPTB want them and educate them to do any more. It will be game over for the system we live in.

Sounds great, bring it

Everything in the system S**KS big time as it benefits the 1% only. We are trapped as we are now and the 1% don't want to give up their power. Well ,they will have to .

Yeah yeah for sure ancientlight totally know where you are coming from

we are kind of trapped into the system through brain washing through education plus state sponsored MSM telling us how it should be. Thing is I'm not completely convinced that what we are going to get as new over lords is anything better. The UFOs who knows who'se in 'em and what they have planned for us, when they decide to intervene? We might well face somethin akin to Auschwitz, I mean we don't exactly come across as a benefit for our Planet and the rest of life down here. Added to this we are on the verge of nuke war at some point down the line. They probably think we are best got rid of. That would be the logic when looking at us from above.

Mate, they are 4' tall and weigh probably what, 50lb's? I could probably kick one 30 yards. The only question is, should i try for a swerve shot or add some lift and then catch it on the volley on the way back down?

Disclaimer: If Aliens are reading this it wasn't me who typed it...it was my ex-wife and I can show you where she lives.