Indictment number 3 for Trump announced

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
I took this in 2019 doesn't matter if you like Trump or not this picture is fact .

We had 1.776 a gallon on July 4th at sheetz less than a month ago

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And why is it in this forum, when it belongs in Mainstream News?

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Here are some Japanese comments on Trumps speech.

Mr. Trump!?
Before that, it's the Kishida administration (｀Δ´)/

Are there any decent Republican candidates?

It's a bad time to die💢💢💢

If you don't go that far, the possibility of a rematch?

People who don't want to understand people who are no longer used

If Trump comes back
the war will stop,
no virus,
I'm finally in an environment where I can move forward.

Too old for now.
It's enough.

what happened to the hunter problem? Foreign Lobbying Law, what happened to Devon Archer's testimony? ANNYeah?

Will it be Kennedy Jr. VS DeSantis?

Deep State is in a pinch w

Biden's big boomerang on the grass

The world situation is too chaotic after becoming Biden

What about the Biden jump? w
This is irrefutable evidence

It's the DS that set it up again! Fight Trump!

Will Trump be back as president? .
Both Japan and America should put the top back in front. Trump and Kan-san, okay?

Why isn't there a broadcast full of suspicions about Biden's parent and child? ?

It's a glimpse of America, the land of lawsuits. What a patriotic man that the president himself will prove

It's Biden who's cheating

These comments are only 5 minutes old.
There is so much hate toward the current US President

Regardless of what you read about negative news of Trump in Japan, Trump was well received by the Japanese... Biden " please stay home", don't come to Japan.

originally posted by: Mahogany
A big question is who are the 6 unnamed co-conspirators?

As FOX reports:

The Tuesday indictment against former President Donald Trump on charges stemming from Special Counsel Jack Smith's investigation into the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot includes six unnamed co-conspirators.

Those co-conspirators, the indictment says on pages three and four, include four attorneys, one Justice Department official and one political consultant.

Four attorneys... Giuliani, Powell, Eastman... the fourth?

Which political consultant?

Probably more big news in a few days.

Which shoe do you figure is going to drop on the Biden Crime Family that will result in more Trump indictments… 🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
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Maybe because yours was written an hour later? Just a guess; if you really want to know why you can always DM a mod.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
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The topic is a political one that was designed to have ramifications on the 2024 election. This forum is for the 2024 election. Seems to be the correct forum.

Less important "Democrats indict top political rival" is also not "News". The Democrats have been trying to indict their top political rival since 2016; this isn't even the first time they have done it which might also be news worth.

originally posted by: JinMI
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Who before and who since has been held to the same legal standard please?

No one
He is a unicorn

Stupid reply bug

a reply to: MrInquisitive

These are the people I mentioned in your thread that are smarter than me that say these charges are sh!t.
These are not the internet lawyers that you guys like to pretend to be here on ATS.

Former President Donald Trump's latest four-count indictment relating to the 2020 election's aftermath will not come close to fulfilling Democrats' dreams of prohibiting the Republican front-runner from attaining high office again, a top law professor told Fox News.
George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley's analysis was essentially seconded by another legal expert, former New York federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy, who noted he had himself successfully prosecuted a "seditious conspiracy" case and said the Trump investigation gets nowhere close to that threshold.

Turley previously said Democrats are unlikely to see their dream of Trump being declared ineligible for elected office come true with the latest indictment.

"The Democrats have been playing with this for years with the 14th Amendment and the claims of disqualification," he said. "It's sort of a story you tell your kids at night if you're a Democratic household so they sleep restfully, but I got to tell you, I'm highly skeptical."

"I don't think that a conviction would prevent Donald Trump from running, and by the way, if he's elected, it wouldn't prevent him from pardoning himself. It wouldn't prevent other Republicans elected from pardoning him."

"Jack Smith has a reputation for stretching criminal statutes beyond the breaking point. He went after [former Virginia Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell] and secured a conviction there.
He was unanimously overturned because he just stretched the law too far."

McCarthy also said that connecting Trump to incitement, as Smith reportedly does, would be "low rent stuff that prosecutors are not supposed to do."
"If you've got evidence that Trump committed incitement, then charge him with incitement. But, of course, I can say as somebody who actually successfully prosecuted a seditious conspiracy case, they don't have a prayer of a case like that… "

www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Want a cookie, its been right at 4 or as high as 4.39 in alaska all summer.

a reply to: Irishhaf

It was only that price because of July 4th. It’s been around 4 the rest of the time. I didn’t even partake because it was gas only and I run diesel, those lines were insane anyways.

But the prices in (I assume they meant 2020) were because of the black swan drop in consumption. Which is about as relevant to the president in office as the July 4th proves at sheetz, which was my ultimate point.

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
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Maybe because yours was written an hour later? Just a guess; if you really want to know why you can always DM a mod.

I did so already, and am waiting for a reply. As I wrote in my previous comment, the OP didn't conform to ATS rules for thread creation, and the news story does not belong in the 2024 Election forum, as the story has nothing to do with the 2024 elections.

originally posted by: dandandat2

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
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The topic is a political one that was designed to have ramifications on the 2024 election. This forum is for the 2024 election. Seems to be the correct forum.

Less important "Democrats indict top political rival" is also not "News". The Democrats have been trying to indict their top political rival since 2016; this isn't even the first time they have done it which might also be news worth.

Sure it's a political story, but it is not about the 2024 election, claims of weaponizing the DOJ notwithstanding. So, no, this isn't about the 2024 election. It's about the 2020 election and Trump's attempt to overturn the election on Jan. 6.

Claiming this isn't news is just a ridiculous, biased viewpoint of your own.

This thread's OP also doesn't meet the criteria for starting a thread, i.e.

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And the title of the thread did the story no justice.

Seems people don't want to hear the news if it doesn't comport with their own prejudices.

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Seems people don't want to hear the news if it doesn't comport with their own prejudices.

Says the member to other members about moderator actions on subjective means.

Hooboy.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Here's a more appropriate name for this thread:

Trump Indicted By Department Of Justice Over Jan. 6 Coup Attempt

And here is some actual information on the story:

The Jan. 6 indictments came down today. Trump was indicted on four charges: conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights. This involves actions on his part to overturn the 2020 election, and inciting the Jan. 6 riot. These charges were filed in Washington D.C., and the case will be presided over by judge Tanya Chutkan, an Obama appointee.

For those who will claim these are more "fake" charges, as Trump has already done, remember that the DOJ has been prosecuting and convicting persons who took part in the pro-Trump mob riot on at the Capitol on Jan. 6, with many persons charged taking plea deals.

The Department of Justice has been prosecuting people in Trump’s mob who assaulted the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, for more than two years. In the past year, federal prosecutors started going more aggressively after those who took part in laying the groundwork for that day, including the fraudulent Trump electors from states that Democrat Joe Biden had won.

At the head of that scheme was Trump himself, whose White House and campaign directed the effort as part of a plan to pressure then-Vice President Mike Pence into accepting those fake Electoral College votes to award Trump another term.

Top White House aide Stephen Miller, in fact, boasted of the fake elector scheme as it was playing out in real-time during a Fox News appearance on Dec. 14, 2020, the day the actual electors were officially making Biden president-elect.

He [Trump] did try, though, to distance himself from the events of that day: “I wasn’t involved in it very much. I was asked to come in. Would I make a speech?”

That claim is a lie. Trump personally asked his followers to come to Washington, D.C., on the day of the congressional certification ceremony, starting with a tweet on Dec. 19, 2020, when he wrote: “Be there, will be wild!”

Trump Indicted By Department Of Justice Over Jan. 6 Coup Attempt

A number of persons from Trumps circle have given testimony after being subpoenaed by the grand jury. These are not Democrats testifying against him, but people from his own administration and even his family.

Former President Donald Trump was indicted on Tuesday by the federal grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election and the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

Trump was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights — a civil rights law related to the alleged attempt to disenfranchise voters by trying to overturn the election.

Several associates of Trump reportedly met with the special counsel's office or testified before the grand jury in the case in recent months after being subpoenaed in the probe, including top Trump advisor Boris Epshteyn, former Vice President Mike Pence, former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, and Trump's son-in-law and former White House senior advisor, Jared Kushner. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, the top election official in the state who received Trump's infamous January 2021 phone call, was also expected to meet with prosecutors.

The subpoenas covered 18 separate categories of information, The Washington Post reported, indicating that the Justice Department was interested in three main areas related to the origins, fundraising and underpinnings of the alleged attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to President Joe Biden in early 2021: the effort to replace earned, Biden electors with false pro-Trump electors before the congressional tally of the 2020 election outcome on Jan. 6, 2021; the rally that preceded the deadly attack on the Capitol, which Trump had tweeted on Dec. 19, 2020 would "be wild"; and the fundraising and spending of the Save America political action committee, which raised more than $100 million in the aftermath of the 2020 election due, in large part, to the Trump circle's "Stop the Steal" campaign.

Those areas of the Justice Department's interest, however, did not cover the other important aspects of its investigation into the insurrection, in which more than 870 people had been arrested for alleged violence, trespassing and — in the case of two far-right extremist groups prosecutors said played key roles in the riot — seditious conspiracy.

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years in May for seditious conspiracy in connection to his role in the deadly attack — a prison term that prosecutors have appealed in a signal that they were dissatisfied with the term — alongside several other members of the group who received lesser sentences for their participation in the riot. Four members of the alt-right Proud Boys, including leader Enrique Tarrio, were convicted on charges of seditious conspiracy that same month.

Indictment: Trump charged with four felonies in 2020 election probe — 6 un-indicted co-conspirators

A portion of this investigation parallels a similar investigation occurring in by the Fulton, GA, DA, Fani Willis, who is investigating Trump and his associates' efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state. Willis is expected to deliver a charging decision in the coming weeks.

In other news, Trump has already spent tens of millions of his PAC money for legal fees. This amount will only grow.

Trump took in over $53 million since the start of 2023, records show, a period in which his two criminal indictments in Florida and New York were turned into a rallying cry that made his fundraising soar. Yet the Republican presidential front-runner burned through at least $42.8 million this year, much of it used to cover costs related to the mounting legal peril faced by Trump, his aides and other allies, leaving him with $31.8 million cash on hand. And that was after receiving a lifeline from a pro-Trump super PAC that agreed to refund millions of dollars in contributions that Trump’s operation had previously donated to it.

New campaign finance disclosures made public ahead of Monday night’s filing deadline showed Trump’s network of political committees spent roughly $25 million on legal fees. But according to a person familiar with the situation who insisted on anonymity to discuss the matter, the number is considerably higher: $40 million this year alone.

Donald Trump's Campaign Finances Are Strained As Legal Peril Mounts

It was predicted that Trump would face a legal hell scape after leaving office, and that has come to be.

The indictment itself can be read here:

Jan. 6 Indictment

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: MrInquisitive

Seems people don't want to hear the news if it doesn't comport with their own prejudices.

Says the member to other members about moderator actions on subjective means.

Hooboy.

What don't you understand about this statment:

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Seems this warning applies in spades to the OP. A moderator even put a note in the post.

And then there is the fact that there are multiple threads by the same person on some political news stories.

Pathetic attempts trying to slight me and gaslight me are just wind.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RazorV66

So?

I have respect for our late Queen.

Charles and Camilla, not so much.

Tell that how you like

Curious why anyone would have respect for the reptilian bloodline that has transcended the previous cataclysm only to rule over this next generation of mankind?

I have zero respect for reptilian blood lords.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

What don't you understand about this statment:

Are you a mod? Am I? Settle down Karen.

Pathetic attempts trying to slight me and gaslight me are just wind.

You get what you give.

/shrug.

originally posted by: 1947boomer

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Who before and who since has been held to the same legal standard please?

The answer to your question is that ALL Presidents who tried to illegally stay in office after being voted out (you know, like they do sometimes in banana republics) have been held to the same legal standard.

Fortunately, we've only had one such President in the last 235 years of the Republic.

That might be true, but I would say the majority of US citizens know damn well that this isn't the case. You can't lose an election fairly if it was stolen from you to begin with.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Pathetic attempts trying to slight me and gaslight me are just wind.

You don’t say……

And then there is the fact that there are multiple threads by the same person on some political news stories.

Oh wow