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posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: HeirHeart

That is a conundrum.

If everything is a lie, then logically most of everything that's false would actually be true. Then, one must consider there's a difference between "truth" and "fact".

A fact is something that's indisputable, based on empirical research and quantifiable measures. Facts go beyond theories. They're proven through calculation and experience, or they're something that definitively occurred in the past.

Truth is entirely different; it may include fact, but it can also include belief, and that's where things tend to get "muddy".

I'm sure one can imagine how cleverly truth can be manipulated into fact by tinkering with the emotional component within us all.

Politicians rely heavily upon this.

edit on 7/31/2023 by EternalShadow because: eta



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: Cwantas

Here’s what I believe on that one. I believe the Bible is a bibliography… a collection of books about the same subject. I believe that to understand what it’s trying to tell you, it’s important to first know the subject. Like any myth, the subject is YOU! It’s written in scripture, a form of artistic writing used to hide secret knowledge in plain sight. It was composed by an ancient priesthood trying to preserve their secrets for a future priesthood while keeping them out of the hands of an illegitimate ruling class.

Know thy Self



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 12:16 PM
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My greatest conspiracy would be that our existence is a simulation.

And if enough people realize that, the simulation will end and blink us out of existence.



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: EternalShadow

Let’s take an example… Life for instance. If this isn’t life, then what is the most likely alternative? Unbelievable as it may seem based on our current beliefs, which are all false.

If everything in our false reality is false, are any facts within that reality true? Or are they as made up as the lie they support? Going a step further, where does ALL reality exist and how does it come to be?

Wouldn’t truth in this sense be what’s behind the deception?



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 12:29 PM
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Nobel prize winning physicist Albert Einstein, one of the greatest thinkers who ever lived asserted, "thinking is hard work, that is why so few do it."
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posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: HeirHeart

I don't have all the answers, lol, and honestly my answers so far are just opinions mostly, just to clarify.

As I mentioned before, belief can contaminate truth and for the believer, that can be enough to solidify it as fact. Does that make it a fact though? Of course not.

Where does reality derive from? IMO, by existing mostly, but scientifically I'd attribute it to the interpretations of our five (or more) senses. Helen Keller had an augmented reality in that she was limited to utter darkness and silence but she learned to expand her reality by using her other senses to create new realities for herself and others.

Her limitations to me were the false reality because those limitations actually prevent a more expansive experience of life itself. Others would argue the opposite in that what limits us actually expands our experience and development. Subjective being the operative term here.

It's one of the reasons why I question an afterlife.




edit on 7/31/2023 by EternalShadow because: got coffee I'm back..



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: FishsticksAndKetchup

He was also an intellectual who repeatedly stated that imagination was far more important than intellect



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: EternalShadow

Nobody does, it’s not possible, or necessary to understanding. Not having the answers is what’s supposed to make us look for them. We don’t look for truth because it breaks the lie we want to believe.

What is belief? Is it simply acknowledging the lies that have been forced down our throats and stuffed up our asses. What is knowledge, is it simply committing something you’ve heard to memory? Where did your knowledge and belief come from? How do you know facts are even facts when all the so called experts shoveling that crap can’t agree? Something is wrong there, either experts aren’t experts or the facts aren’t facts… or both.

All reality is created in our imagination, by YOU the creator. So any difference between fantasy and fact, is in fact imagined. The real question is, why don’t we know that? Could it be because this gig would be up in a heartbeat if we did?

Your intellect, or brain and CNS is what’s producing this reality, your senses are literally how it fools you. Are you sure you want to rely on them to expose the deception they’re helping to maintain?

What question do you have about the afterlife? The thought experiment would suggest you might have already stumbled upon the answer without even realizing it. What happens after we die? Well, if this isn’t life then it’s death and we already know. What we don’t know and have never known in this world is Life.



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: HeirHeart
I do believe there is truth in the Bible just not the whole truth regarding Jesus.



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: Cwantas

It’s not about Jesus, it’s about YOU. Every character in the Bible is YOU, every story in the Bible is about YOU, every dialogue a conversation you’ve had or will have with yourself. It doesn’t matter who the reader is, if you’re following the script it’s YOUR story.



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: HeirHeart

It's about Jesus.



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: HeirHeart
The Bible is an attempt to connect Jesus with the god of the old testament who isn't God.



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: Whatchful

Careful, you might burn out a brain cell with that kind of effort.




posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: HeirHeart

Why?



posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: Cwantas

The God of the old testament is Satan, or Saturn. It's our intellect. The real God is Lucifer, the serpent in the Garden speaking the truth. He's Lucifer in the story of our Fall, and Jesus in the story of our Rise, aka "resurrection". They're connected in the same way that life and death are connected. The OT is a Book of the Dead, and the NT is a Book of Life.

It's not rocket science, it's easily understood once you grasp the gist of what we're doing here. If you know what we're up to here, then you know what the bible is. If you know what the bible is, then you know what we're up to here. if you don't know either, it's because you're better off not knowing. The truth is a burden in this world, and most don't have the strength of will to bear it.




posted on Jul, 31 2023 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Whatchful

I see your point... you don't have any to spare



posted on Aug, 1 2023 @ 01:13 AM
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a reply to: Cwantas

You're in for a huge surprise one of these days. I hope you find Jesus, truly.



posted on Aug, 1 2023 @ 01:16 AM
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a reply to: HeirHeart

The name of Jesus is my effort. He is ALL, He is everything, He is our creator. So, his name speaks volumes, covers all things, erases all evil, and shows the truth.



posted on Aug, 1 2023 @ 03:54 AM
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a reply to: Whatchful
The reason I believe what I believe is because I have found Jesus.



posted on Aug, 1 2023 @ 04:41 AM
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a reply to: HeirHeart

Please continue to share your pearls of wisdom ......I fed mine to the swines.

Do not be put off by the naysayers.

I am enjoying your posts very much.❤




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