Gaslighting - What does bedroom activity have to do with work?

a reply to: Xtrozero

We've exchanged one form of normal sexual 'awareness' in the work place with a different flavor.

I travel fairly often with a group of artists. Often they bring their spouses. Some are same sex. We have a great time. They don't make a big deal about it. We are all older. Some, like me are travelling single. More are with a spouse.

Its funny how singles feel somewhat unbalanced with couples all together. It can be uncomfortable to be 'singled out'.

Its why I call Valentines Day 'Single Awareness Day'.

I want my reparations!

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
I read your example and just shook my head.

I think what you observed (the gesture) is what irks people, for example. It is indeed true, at least from my observation, that this is an issue with not only those that celebrate and live the LGBTQ "lifestyle", but also ppl like me that just want to live their life.

Let me word it like this, living being not heterosexual naturally puts one into waters -especially with the internet- where you have to leave from the normal way to find out what is different. I mean, it's not a secret how human biology works and taught in school, but not these topics. This puts one into a different realm, a parallel realm, to find contacts etc. This naturally forms a bubble and once in there may be hard to judge. Like hanging out with a group of friends, you will adjust, have inside jokes etc and maybe even changing personally.

On top of it, I really do think that, no matter homo, bi or trans, something is different. Something isn't wired like it should be, as in, normal. I don't want to say wrong but it indeed is, from natures viewpoint, not the way how life works.

Disclaimer: I am bisexual. There are other people like me that think exactly or similar like this. Sadly we are outnumbered by people that think they are special and demand special treatment.

Add: I do not advocate teaching homo, bi, trans etc in school. It's not the place where this should happen.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JAGStorm


As to the OP, if he doesn’t like it, he can get another job, or created his own company that doesn’t “celebrate” things like that.
He might be job hopping for a while.

Yeah, you're right. All businesses can and should celebrate what people do in their bedrooms because that's an important job qualification, . . . . . . . . . for prostitutes, people making porn, sex traffickers, etc.

YOUR focus is in their bedroom.

Their focus is on equal/legal rights, free to be, career, family, etc.

What rights are they being denied?

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: JAGStorm

I dont remember a time in the past where people made their bedroom behavior everyone else's business.

That is what has changed.

They’re not.

But YOU are.

a reply to: Annee

24 years ago I worked for a Fortune 500 software company who had a manager in another division transition. They told us, via a meeting, that before they had completed they would be using the mens room till it was all done. So, for a year we would hear the click clack of heels in the mens room. No one cared. No one said a thing. Were there a few jokes, sure, the person even laughed at them but we all made sure they did it with no issues from anyone.

So this acceptance and tolerance BS is not the correct argument to have.

About 90 people a year are killed in accidents with lawnmowers. That is more people than suspected transsexuals killed last year.

Link

The report found that 15 trans people have been killed by police or while incarcerated in jails, prisons or ICE detention centers since 2013, including two this year. Other victims were killed by a person they knew. Since 2013, nearly one-fifth of those whose killer is known were killed by an intimate partner.

I think we need bette lawnmower safety before we start passing more laws for these folks...

"People's race and disabilities also don't make them lose any rights." -Halfswede

Google Japanese Americans 1942.
Or to be more on the subject,
Don't ask, don't tell 1994.

Just because it doesn't happen to YOU, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Imagine being gay in the 1950s, where society didn't want you. Decades of prejudice and gay bashing were the norm in this country until only recently.

Some people lived their entire lives pent up in the closet with many commiting suicide because society is an a55hole.

If you TRULY didn't care about another person's preferences, then it wouldn't bother you if they let you know about it.

a reply to: Annee

You can't legislate human thoughts and emotions.

Its tyrannical to try.

a reply to: CloneFarm1000

What you've described goes way farther back in human history than 1950s.

Just like I imagine a colorblind world, I imagine an orientationblind world.

Just like I don't want one race elevated or celebrated or recognized over another, neither do I want one orientation elevated, celebrated or recognized over another either.

What's so hard to understand about that?

originally posted by: dandandat2
Far to often corporations and businesses do the bare minimum of work to appear that they are inclusive than actually being inclusive.

What does that even mean in the business world? Most of the time it means anti heterosexual white male.

a reply to: Annee

Not in the workplace they don't, or they get a sexual harrassment charge. Over my career I saw a big change in how women were respected in the workplace. We worked hard to get a better workplace environment for women. But camp behavior full of sexual innuendo seems to be far more tolerated in the workplace if its by homosexuals.

Why?

a reply to: CloneFarm1000
Whoosh! Literally don't care. Just stop gaslighting that it is about anything but bedroom behavior and celebrating said behavior.

If you have some other characteristic that you claim makes them lgbq, then please enlighten us.

a reply to: Annee

How would I even know another persons orientation if they don't make it blatant?

You don't make any sense.

a reply to: TDDAgain

I think there are far more people, living an alternative lifestyle, that feel like you do. It's always the squeaky wheels that get the grease, as they say.

Why can't we all just live and let live? Leave the kids alone, don't break any laws and we can have a beer and a laugh.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
live the LGBTQ "lifestyle", but also ppl like me that just want to live their life.

I think that is kind of the big point in just what is the LGBTQ "lifestyle" as all I see is open sexual fetishes and kinks with an "I dare you to say something" type attitude. One thing I see from the Left over and over is they take a good point/idea/cause and just keep evolving it into some kind of monster no one wants or recognizes. We could see this with the MeToo movement, BLM, and a good dozen of other types of events including the whole LGBTQIA+++ that we all know pedophilia is just around the corner as one of the + is turned into a P. If a seven-year-old is mature enough to pick their sex then they should be able to have sex, right?

Let me word it like this, living being not heterosexual naturally puts one into waters -especially with the internet- where you have to leave from the normal way to find out what is different. I mean, it's not a secret how human biology works and taught in school, but not these topics. This puts one into a different realm, a parallel realm, to find contacts etc. This naturally forms a bubble and once in there may be hard to judge. Like hanging out with a group of friends, you will adjust, have inside jokes etc and maybe even changing personally.

Add: I do not advocate teaching homo, bi, trans etc in school. It's not the place where this should happen.

Basic sexual changes to one's body at the right ages are what they should only teach. The Liberals seem to think people can't figure out who and what they are without some massive support in 3rd grade..lol There is also no hurry, people grow into their sexuality in different ways including hetero and the rainbow community. Some are early, some not until their 20s or later. Let people be people without the grooming influences to drive people down a wrong path that they end up regretting once they figure it all out for themselves.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels
Exactly. Leave the kids out, let them alone. This is adult business.

Going after the kids could invoke a response from parents that will be very ugly, violent and not expected at all. And rightfully so. It shows how disconnected some are from reality to not see it.

Hopefully it will never come to that moment.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

How would I even know another persons orientation if they don't make it blatant?

You don't make any sense.

So, if they say or make any jester that indicates they are LGBTQ+ —. YOU’RE focus is gonna go straight to the bedroom.

It’s not them.

a reply to: Xtrozero

That community has already found a term for pedophiles... "MAP".

To make sexual abuse on minors seem less cruel, less rape, less traumatizing.

Boils my blood. Personal experience with such a predator that is responsible for how I am. Many like me end up like I did and put's one into a situation where you know your sexual preferences may not be a natural error but often due to trauma. I am 35 years old and still struggle with that. The internal conflict knowing this but not being able to change it back, is challenging.

I have been called a "traitor" by other bisexuals and also homosexuals for my stance on things like this. I will not back down calling people out that support pedophiles because they have no clue, really no idea, what they support and how damaging it is to play this down as "minor attracted person".

I am off now, talking to the punching bag.

a reply to: Annee

Not if they do so in a way that is respectful and not at my expense.

With the example I showed above. When my female coworker said 'my wife', had it ended there, no problemo! I felt a little awkward for assuming she was straight because she wore a wedding ring. Gay marriage was legal in CA but not everywhere,, so this was new.

But the little sexual innuendo was not respectful. And made me uncomfortable because she made her SEXUAL ACTIVITY the subject of innuendo. GET IT??? It's on HER, not ME

She also would do something similar whenever we were all discussing weekend plans and she and her wife were going away for a romantic vacay. Ok, cool. But here came the sexual innuendo followed by nervous laughter by the hip people.

originally posted by: Annee

So, if they say or make any jester that indicates they are LGBTQ+ —. YOU’RE focus is gonna go straight to the bedroom.

It’s not them.

We are not talking about just any jester, we are talking about an unusual amount of sexual jesters. It's funny in a world where just eyeing someone as a hetero male can be called sexual harassment, but two gay guys dressed in fetish gear tonguing it up in the middle of the street is OK.

We have all come to accept what one would call jesters from the rainbow community as more of a norm now, but when they constantly take on sexual behaviors that I would not want to see even in a hetero couple either and assumed it is all OK around children too.

Explain to me where I'm wrong or hyperbole here in my observations. Once again we are not talking about the vast major here just the ones the liberals decided to let drive their narratives.

a reply to: TDDAgain

Be well and take it easy on that poor bag, Ducky.