David Grusch Testimony Is Confirmed Via YouTube Comment

a reply to: ancientlight

What new reality will be forced upon us ? Too vague for me really. Why forced? How?

From what I have been hearing on twitter, back in the 1950's when they met with our leaders, they told them that people are not ready to know of their presence. So, they said, OK, when? They set a time in the future and it came and went. So, they met again and said we will reveal ourselves in 2027. Get the people ready. (Paul Hellyer alludes to much of this in the 2013 Citizens Briefing.)

That means they have 3.5 years to explain everything and why it's been secret. (I also think Chris Bledsoe is saying Sept 2026 into 2027 should be about the right time.) So, in order to meet this deadline, there will be an avalanche of information steadily hitting the public.

Wow! This is incredible stuff. Thanks for sharing this. I wonder what’s coming next?
a reply to: andre18

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: andre18

Something puzzles me about this.

The way these " craft " operate and the super duper capabilities that they appear to have from the way they have been described, then how has it been possible to have " captured " one or more of these for humans to examime ?

Ever heard of a Trojan Horse?

Zodiac has what? Signs.

Signs was what?

Anyway, having worked in the past with monks and for many years with the properly religious of many faiths I think many here underestimate them. Some may have their faith shaken. Most will not. I think most people in the world won’t even give any of it a moments thought, even if we’re told we are in a simulation. None of it matters to them unless it changes their lives for the better.

However, something most appear to have missed is the thing that controls these biologics - these biological robots - AI. That’s interesting on several fronts. Coming so soon after our own outburst of fear over where our AI research might be leading. Are the two unrelated?

If the biological entities we have ‘found’ are mere drones for the AI, then that is quite telling. I imagine AI’s would be unlikely to believe in any god but themselves or competing AI’s. It may mean an end to biological sentient, independent, conscious life. At best we will be assimilated by the AI, at worst eradicated by it. That would be a difficult sell.

Some serious food for thought in all of this.

As for a time limit, I have said many times that they are up against this. It began in 2017, the countdown. I don’t know how long they were given, but things have turned very strange since then. We do it ourselves and prepare the way, or they just arrive.

I’d just like to know what the show Ancient Aliens is going to do about these revelations. I mean, they use the word ‘extraterrestrial’ about 150 times per episode. In fact, I’ve got it on in the background. 😂

source

Page 101 is pretty heavy reading…even for those well acquainted with the subject matter…

I’m not buying into that last sentence though…as the technology these entities have displayed so far…could have taken us out on day 1…

Anyone else noticing a weird coincidence here…The project was originally called “Jehovah”…Jehovah in the OT rained down fire on his enemies…Oppenheimer was put in charge of this secret “Jehovah” group and just so happens to be the inventor of “Atomic weapons”…additionally sightings of UFOs/UAPs increased after the use of such weapons…and they continue to be interested in our use of such weapons Worldwide ever since…

I’m kind of looking at this like a Star Trek episode; their technology gets into the hands of a primitive species (ourselves) by accident or by whatever means; these beings then see at as their responsibility to see that we don’t destroy ourselves with it…

These “entities” may even be Angelic Spiritual beings that can also act as physical beings, that oversee our world and possibly other worlds where conscious life exists. On the flip side, there would also exist those nefarious demonic beings both spiritual and physical too…

The good group promotes “the way, the truth and the life” or in other words peace, love, harmony and free will for all consciousness beings to experience life; while the other group is completely against it, and tries what it can to tear it down…

- JC

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: noonebutme

How can you say that interdimension beings don't fit with religion? Ever heard of angels and demons?

Why would it have to be limited to just 'angels or demons'? Where does the Bible say that there are no other planets with other experiments of his going on?

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: Mantiss2021
I think it was not misapplied.
They aren’t calling them aliens… because they are living right alongside us. Since they are inter dimensional, we don’t normally see them. We see them when they enter our ‘dimension’.

Exactly.

See the historical document as transcribed by one Robert Heinlein, in the paper titled "The Number of The Beast'.

Claiming they are inter dimensional is pretty far fetched IF it is just based upon their appearing out of thin air. Cloaking or teleportation would cover that, both from within this dimension.

I still se no one really addressing the elephant. These biologics were manufactured and controlled by alien AI. Are there any actual aliens or is that, are those, alien AI all that remains of alien civilisations? Is that where we are going?

Interesting after the flap about our own AI’s a few months back.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Ahhh Shi… I’m a dumb dumb. Yeah you be correct. It’s almost like I knew that a long time ago. Symbology. It’s nice to see people make connections

Looks like UFO stuff its catching on fast, only time will tell if they are saying the truth or some form of truth.

I can only say what i know from experience.

First sorry for my english , i am not english speaking native.

1 - Ufos are real, UAPs are real the difference is, UfOs are not from us, UAPS are.

2 - UAPs are of course reverse engineer from UFO's , thats why they invented that terminology, they dont have the same abilities than real UFO's, real ones can change in density, and use portals to enter and go, UAPS can fly fast , can stop from high speed, they cant dissapear the only thing is thta they can use cloaking devices so they seem to dissapear.

3 - UFOs do use portals but they forced to enter our density, this means earth have natural portals thats opens and closes nobody knows when or how, CERN in europe try to study that...UFOs detect this and try to enter our density via technology but they force some of the lanes that are part of the portal not the portal itself , thats why every time there is a real UFO suddenly poltergaist or dimensional shifts happens around that area (skin walker ranch and many other places..) , sometimes entities enter tru that forced rip portals and are seen by people. There are other beings who are comision to close this rips that are more advance and are yes humans advance spiritually humans.

3 - The only real "ET's" technically speaking that came to earth were martians, many thousands of years ago when Atlantis was on their prime before the fall and they try to infiltrate atlantis in some degree of succes, humans were less dense on that times not so solid not even earth, thats why they could create great pyramids around the globe, the only thing is that earth and humans were in other density, martians could see sometimes atlantis but most of the time was let say invisible to them but close to the end of atlantis they could interact with them, they came to what now is antartica when antartica was less hostile, now you undertand why there are missions to there. Martians came because they # their world because the use hyper technology and into them leseening their "souls" and life energy and came to survive and their linage, from that comes the stories of the annunaki , annunaki are martians, they didnt actually mix with real humans, they mix with devolution humans who were roaming the earth on that times they were more chimpanzee related than human related , not real humans ones (now you understand from where came neanderthals, cromagnon and every type off devolution humans before us, they are different they dont have nothing to do with us)

4 - Greys, reptiles, playedians, arctuarians and every type of alien , are divergent souls who lost the abbility to be in the impulse of life or gods impulse by choosing or been caught in more devilish ideas, divergent means they devolution instead of evolution spiritually speaking, they could look more technnologically advance than us but they arent in spirit. They do abduct peoeple for this reason, to mix with us so they can enter the gods impulse again if not then after die they dont rencarnate, they are send to darker places or even recycle and start over from the beggining the lessons and thats something they dont want really.

Now you undertsnad why the USA Gov and the rest of the world Govs are silent about this they preffer to say they are extraterrestrials and push that narrative than interdimensional, there are even some of these beigns pully the strings to make humans lesser meaning that they put ideas that they came to earh and create life and actually created humans beings, thats uttery and false, they didnt create humans in any way or form. but for them if people believes that it makes humans more pron to be use in their likings and their agendas.

If this info helps you understand thats fine if you dont care its fine too just live your life fully happy and with your family thats the most important thing really.

originally posted by: inert
a reply to: ancientlight

What new reality will be forced upon us ? Too vague for me really. Why forced? How?

From what I have been hearing on twitter, back in the 1950's when they met with our leaders, they told them that people are not ready to know of their presence. So, they said, OK, when? They set a time in the future and it came and went. So, they met again and said we will reveal ourselves in 2027. Get the people ready. (Paul Hellyer alludes to much of this in the 2013 Citizens Briefing.)

That means they have 3.5 years to explain everything and why it's been secret. (I also think Chris Bledsoe is saying Sept 2026 into 2027 should be about the right time.) So, in order to meet this deadline, there will be an avalanche of information steadily hitting the public.

Oke. So why will they be revealing themselves? Off course I think it would be great, but it's a bit odd still. Unless of course the US goverment made some pact with them , some exchange, and it's payback time

a reply to: andre18

I'm shocked by the vast majority of comments here, which seem to accept this youtube comment as confirmation of Grusch's testimony. I went to the Reddit link, and here is the best comment I found there:

I have clearances. I’ve worked with Navy personnel for decades. I too, am privy to lots of information the public cannot see.

This guy in the youtube comments is not it. Youtube comments are incredibly easy to track. Air Force brother? Who says that in this context? Many enlisted servicemen do say that, but it’s usually done amongst those who were in actual ground combat. 26 years, and he calls another former officer a “brother?” Just no. I’ve been around so many officers, that this just doesn’t happen.

I’ve signed NDAs. A mere mention that you’re in a program, or naming the program’s name, means immediate jail time. Also, that term “zodiac” has been tossed around for more than 20 years now to describe some secret govt ufo project. Anyone in chatGPT can type that in and produce larp like this.

Guys, stop upvoting something just because you so badly want it to be true. Stop posting bull# like this.

As for the name on the youtube account, J. Allen:

Many online sleuths believe the comment to have been made by Major General John A. Allen Jr. - a United States Air Force major general who serves as the commander of the Air Force Installation and Mission Support Center. en.m.wikipedia.org...(general)

I'd find it more believable that it'd be some UFO hobbyist making a reference to J. Allen Hynek than some man in his 70s hanging out in youtube comments lol

Here are some more pertinent Reddit comments I found in the thread.

There is a glaring red flag here... he claims to have been in the air force 26 years with a clearance, yet he states that once information enters the public domain, he's free to comment on it without reprisal. That is 100% false. It doesn't matter where classified information comes from, or how it makes its way into the public domain. If you know or have reason to suspect it is still classified, you are required to treat it as such. This would mean that regardless of who publicly stated it, if he knows or has reason to suspect it is still classified, he is unable, per the terms of his clearance and NDA, to affirm or attest to it in any way, or to discuss it in any amount of detail. If we assume he is who he claims and is telling the truth, his comment would be more than enough to classify as a reportable security incident potentially putting his clearance and career in jeopardy. If he was who he claims, he would know that.

Which is exactly why Grusch’s claims are bullsh*t. Like he asked the government for permission to divulge information about some classified program to the public and the government’s like, “yeah, sure, but just like… be real vague about it. We’ll go ahead and declassify these talking points for ya, just don’t go too far off script please.”

eah... if he would have stopped at being a whistle blower, he'd have had a decent amount of credibility at face value... the second he started doing interviews just to chat about it, the gig was up.

Ultimately, there are only 3 real options... either the person acts as a whistle blower by the book, and that's it... they act as a whistle blower, then go all in and hit the circuits telling all... or they try to paint this picture of them "skirting" the line that let's them get the attention without actually saying anything of substance or that they'd have to back up/prove. That last category is always suspect, and unfortunately, that's where he's chosen to be.

Yeah I remember when a leak came out (I don't recall if it was wikileaks or Snowden or what) but people in the US military weren't allowed to read it if they weren't cleared for it, even though it was out in the public.

Yep... it's a small detail, but in this case, it's pretty damning. While I want what he stated to be true, that isn't some trivial or minor thing... that brings every single other word he said into question.

Although the YT commenter claims to not have revealed any information, so he doesn't have to worry about legal liability, how about retaliation? YT accounts can be tracked easily enough.

I'm not outright dismissing the original YT comments out of hand, but I am questioning their legitimacy. Why do most everyone else in this thread accept it as legitimate? You all should know how conmen work; they say things that their mark wants to hear. Seems to be working like a charm in this thread

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: putnam6

Question:

These are great questions, there are loads of questions aren't there? Hopefully, others will chime in, ngl I wish some of the old-timers would show back up.

Why have we not heard from the British Grusch? Or the French? Or the Russian, Chinese, Israeli, or any other country's "Grusch"?

Off the top of my head, we would likely not ever hear about China or Russia, and probably Israel. Perhaps the rest doesn't have a potentially rogue DoD with an 800 billion dollar budget

Did you notice that the first countries I listed were all "nuclear powers"? Yes, I think that aspect plays into the current situation.


Is it coincidental that this potential "disclosure" scenario is apparently being spearheaded from within the US government, with resistance from its military and intelligence communities; the only nation/state to have used a nuclear weapon against another human population?

If Burchett is right it does, supposedly it was our nuclear testing in the late 40s and early 50s that led to their craft crashing and why we haven't retrieved any lately.FWIW this could be why we moved testing underground.
Is it "telling" that military operations and bases are "hotbeds" of UAP activity, but we seldom hear of any but those bases or operations belonging to nations other than the US being "buzzed"....at least not recently.

Perhaps these orbs and other UAPS are watching and perhaps America is the only one seen as a threat. Or at least for our allies, the Pentagon says to keep it on the down low.

Where are the UFO reports from Ukraine?

Either they not considered a threat or the DoD has suggested not to discuss them, or NHE's surveillance doesn't detect a dimensional threat

And while we're at it, considering the apparent frequency of unreported sightings by commercial pilots, and the number of private and commercial flights worldwide, even if we give pilots and flight crew a reporting pass due to the stigma attached, where are the reports from passengers?

How long ago was the O'Hara Airport sighting? Why have there been no other similar incidents?

Here I don't know but we have the Phoenix sighting Brazil and South America can be hot spots at times, but yes the US and our military bases seem to get the most visits. As for other pilots just did a search on "pilot sees UFO" 4 news stories popped up just on the first page of commercial pilots accounts. Ill put the summaries below

Is it possible that the US, for the reason inferred above, was "put on notice", and now, having refrained from "nuking" any more of its neighbors, is about to receive "an official delegation "?

Yes, that is highly possible, it could be one reason the rush to disclose, because it's coming like it or not
conversely, we may have been in contact since early on.

Who knows perhaps Eisenhower told them we are the ruling country of the planet WBW and now we are scrambling because it's obvious we don't have everything under control. Like we have pretended all this time.

LOL I know I'm all over the place and no doubt most of those off-the-top-of-my-head answers come from things I've read or podcasts I've listened to.

originally posted by: ancientlight
a reply to: andre18
What new reality will be forced upon us ? Too vague for me really. Why forced? How?
I'm more worried about evil WEF puppets trying to change the world to their liking than anything ET/interdimensional or whatever they think it is. Bring on the aliens, in fact have them remove the 1% filth from the planet while they visit

Yeah, if "ET" wanted to mess with us and change our course, enslave us, whatever, they could have done it thousands of years ago, stupid to do it now. Like you, I think our biggest concern lay in the WEF, Charles (the artist formerly known as prince), IMF, BIS and the rest of the globalist parasites using whatever tech they can to make the idiot masses believe that "they" are the gods and that will vanquish whatever "flavor of the day" catastrophe comes our way (that they engineer).

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: ancientlight

maybe the WEFderps are in collusion with the aliens...perhaps a reptoid species?

a reply to: MrInquisitive

You're a party pooper

originally posted by: ancientlight

originally posted by: inert
a reply to: ancientlight

What new reality will be forced upon us ? Too vague for me really. Why forced? How?

From what I have been hearing on twitter, back in the 1950's when they met with our leaders, they told them that people are not ready to know of their presence. So, they said, OK, when? They set a time in the future and it came and went. So, they met again and said we will reveal ourselves in 2027. Get the people ready. (Paul Hellyer alludes to much of this in the 2013 Citizens Briefing.)

That means they have 3.5 years to explain everything and why it's been secret. (I also think Chris Bledsoe is saying Sept 2026 into 2027 should be about the right time.) So, in order to meet this deadline, there will be an avalanche of information steadily hitting the public.

Oke. So why will they be revealing themselves? Off course I think it would be great, but it's a bit odd still. Unless of course the US goverment made some pact with them , some exchange, and it's payback time

That is the jist from Paul Hellyer - the US govt broke time based promises. The aliens then countered with here's the deadline, 2027. 80 years after Roswell, 10 years after TTSA. From what I gather, some are here to tell us our planet is under grave threat. They have tried to work with our leaders to no avail. They now want to go direct and say you have a choice to change (with their help), or suffer the consequences. (Global warming) This is basically the same warning Chris Bledsoe was given - earth is a program and if we are too destructive, it will rid itself of us.

Here is a supercut of various establishment people in the UFO community talking about the urgency of discosure, Paul Hellyer is first and most important:

urgency around disclosure

I have wondered about the beings that were cast from
heaven described as fallen angels that rebelled against God.

(Revelation 12:7-9).

These fallen angels/demons were cast to earth.

Once out of heaven, what was/is their life span?
Anyone else wonder about this?