David Grusch Testimony Is Confirmed Via YouTube Comment

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

“Perhaps loosing some weight….shaving hair down and not wearing glasses (instead contacts) ….he could actually be Grusch…”

That’s Grusch alright.

He knew he was going to be on TV, so he ditched the glasses, got a haircut, and lost 40 pounds…

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Cheers Ophi . Also in the video you posted ( SCU 2022) . Christopher Altman is one interesting chap who is in the mix.

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Onwards all this goes!

a reply to: KKLOCO

That’s Grusch alright.

He knew he was going to be on TV, so he ditched the glasses, got a haircut, and lost 40 pounds…

Yes it is. Stress and worry could also have played a part with any weight loss too . But of course he could just of shaped up

Can someone explain what the implications are if that is Grusch?

Yes, could be a gov spook, or it could be exactly as he says, and he now has a deep and personal interest in the UAP subject.

I just don't see how it being him actually means anything.

originally posted by: kangawoo
Can someone explain what the implications are if that is Grusch?

Yes, could be a gov spook, or it could be exactly as he says, and he now has a deep and personal interest in the UAP subject.

I just don't see how it being him actually means anything.

In short: He’s been groomed.

a reply to: KKLOCO

Well yes, that is a possibility, always has been. I just don't see how this is proof of it.
Groomed by whom? and how does this give credence to that theory?

Not arguing, I'm just trying to understand.

Could he not just be intrigued, and consumed by the topic?
Could it be possible he just wanted better knowledge of the community, to become a part of that community and learn who he could trust to share private details with? or any number of reasons.

I don't trust our leaders any more than the rest of us, but with personal knowledge that these things are definitely real, I am not throwing anything out the window at this stage.

Off-topic slightly, but my ex-mother-in-law always told me not to trust people with no lips, especially the upper lip.
There are lots of players in this UAP thing that fit the bill.

I just want people to give Grusch a chance. Suspect and question, but let it play out before attacking. If he is genuine, I'm afraid how the public and media reaction to his claims have been, can only deter further whistleblowers from coming forward.

The aliens shrunk his head

originally posted by: kangawoo
Can someone explain what the implications are if that is Grusch?

Yes, could be a gov spook, or it could be exactly as he says, and he now has a deep and personal interest in the UAP subject.

I just don't see how it being him actually means anything.

You're right, if it is Grusch it could mean either.

For me--and some others here--it just brings to mind a lot of historical shenanigans as regards the IC and ufology.

Are you familiar with the infiltration of ufology organizations by the IC?

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: kangawoo
Can someone explain what the implications are if that is Grusch?

Yes, could be a gov spook, or it could be exactly as he says, and he now has a deep and personal interest in the UAP subject.

I just don't see how it being him actually means anything.

You're right, if it is Grusch it could mean either.

For me--and some others here--it just brings to mind a lot of historical shenanigans as regards the IC and ufology.

Are you familiar with the infiltration of ufology organizations by the IC?

No, I don't think I am familiar with that infiltration of ufology, I will have a look into it cheers.

I admit I am a little biased with this one, because of what I have seen, wanting to get some answers, and having great respect for Ross Culthard.
Culthard authored the book "The Lost Diggers" The work and research he did to produce that book had family connections. So if there was one journo/researcher that I would trust, it would have been him.

Sure, Culthard could have been played, but I would have thought he would be the last journo you would want involved in a PsyOp.

a reply to: kangawoo

I probably know more about Aussie crime, historical and modern, than many Aussie's and Coulthart has been a part of that journey for me. So we'll see if I end up holding him in my previous esteem.

I just saw something in a scroll of youtube vids that made me wonder if Coulthart is employed by whomever employs George Knapp?

Speaking of IC and ufology are you familiar with the name Bennewitz or Bill Moore? Some good search terms.

I'm a believer in non-human intelligence, but my research has led me to have some ominous suspicions about this particular "disclosure" operation.

originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: kangawoo

I probably know more about Aussie crime, historical and modern, than many Aussie's and Coulthart has been a part of that journey for me. So we'll see if I end up holding him in my previous esteem.

I just saw something in a scroll of youtube vids that made me wonder if Coulthart is employed by whomever employs George Knapp?

Speaking of IC and ufology are you familiar with the name Bennewitz or Bill Moore? Some good search terms.

I'm a believer in non-human intelligence, but my research has led me to have some ominous suspicions about this particular "disclosure" operation.

I have always found Knapp to be shady, going back to the C2C days when John B. Wells was there.

Those names ring a bell, but I need to get up-to-date.
Since the early 2000's I have sporadically taken deep dives into Ufology, and always am left overloaded and no closer to any truth.

Btw, where is Phage? I have not seen nor heard anything about him since my recent visits here. I hope he is well.

Rabbit Hole Alert:

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Posted on Reddit then deleted by the author because s/he thought is was a "bit too conspiratorial".
Lots of stuff relevant to the current discussion.

Apparently we now have an official Washington D.C. lobbyist for UFOlogy…..

Yea! A first….

DC’s first UFO lobbyist is ‘pleased and worried’ after Capitol Hill hearing

After 26 years of extraterrestrial activism and a wall’s worth of UFO books, Steve Bassett — D.C.’s first registered UFO lobbyist — is just getting starting. “Only now am I about to do some real lobbying,” Bassett said on the “DMV Download” podcast.

But is he going to be a voice in the wilderness wind complete with tumbleweeds and crickets?

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originally posted by: Raggedyman
In fact, so much the opposite, it’s exactly what I expect. And I expect those like yourself will welcome and worship these things

No, i won't nor would I worship them. I don't "worship" anything as I'm not weak and of low self esteem.

As a religious person, angels and demons, you say it doesn’t fit with my worldview

Correct, the bible doesn't make any mention of aliens or galaxies or interdimensional travel

So wrong and so presumptuous, the bible teaches inter dimensional beings

Nope, it does not. You choose to 'interprete' that from the words written, by men, thousands of years ago when they didn't have a clue about cells, molecules, atoms or gravitational waves. Don't pretend like it did. You religious zealots love to re-interpret over and over to try and wedge your archaic beliefs into a modern world that disproves them on an hourly basis.

I don’t know you nor followed your opinions, there is a dark spiritual side to life and it’s rising, deny that?

Yes I deny it. I'm very spiritual. But spiritual has zero to do with religion. Religion is man-made bollocks.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
Most religions already completely accept either ET or IB in their mythology and lore.,

Really? Show me where in the bibe it mentions beings . Not hyperbole or what you think a passage means - show me where it explicitly states life on other worlds.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Where does the Bible say that there are no other planets with other experiments of his going on?

And where does it say it does?

a reply to: noonebutme

If one subscribes to the notion that Jesus was an Alien or Channeled by an Alien or possessed by an Alien…..

Then this verse would imply, infer, etc, that Jesus or what’s in him, is from outside of earths boundary or within the boundaries of other dimensions ……Jesus says ….

John 8:23 ….“You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.”

Mind you….of course there are verses that could be interpreted by many meanings….but the above verse could be interpreted to have Alien connotations.

Yes….I know….Jesus also spoke in parables……but I don’t read this verse as being from a parable in the chapter it comes from…..this verse is him in normal speaking …not parablling, storytelling….imo.

If Jesus is not of this world…… that could only mean it contradicts your statement below……and the Bible leaves it open to a possibility…..if not a fact.

Correct, the bible doesn't make any mention of aliens or galaxies or interdimensional travel

If Jesus is from above and is not of this world…..then from where?

Jus sayin…

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originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Where does the Bible say that there are no other planets with other experiments of his going on?

And where does it say it does?

Alien is a broad term. Essentially, it means not from this earth.

What would we call angels and demons? The Bible certainly speaks in depth of those.

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Where does the Bible say that there are no other planets with other experiments of his going on?

And where does it say it does?

Alien is a broad term. Essentially, it means not from this earth.

In the NKJV of the Bible…..

There are 17 instances of using the plural “aliens”

There are 36 instances of using the singular “alien”

None of these instances uses…means extraterrestrials space “alien or aliens”…in the Bible.

Back in the day, as it is used today….it meant

alien - noun

a foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living. "an illegal alien"

So then ….technically Alien, Aliens….does also mean from/on earth.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Good point. So the term is even broader than I outlined.

Not to mention the fact that we wouldn’t use the same terms 2,000+ years later anyways.