Mississippi starts allowing religious exemptions for childhood vaccinations

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: AlienBorg

As long as vaccines have passed all the safety protocols and are proven to be effective and beneficial for children I see no reason why kids should not be vaccinated.

Perhaps a deeper dive into the issue would expose an agenda few are aware of, such as the Vaccine Injury Act of 1986.

There's an excellent article on American Thinker that's very enlightening.

In 1986, Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (HR5546). This is an historic act because it removed liability for childhood injury vaccines. Removing liability tends to alter the behavior of entities that benefit. Indeed, it turned out that pharmaceutical companies were no longer liable for injuries caused by their products. That has been the law since 1986.

Attorney Siri says that he knows of no other product that has that kind of immunity. Not planes nor drugs. But since 1986, big pharma has not had any market force check of any significance. “Think of all the products out there that warrant safety precautions, and the one you give immunity to is the one you give to babies. Think about that.”

It turned out that in the years leading up to Congress’ 1986 Act, the amount of liability that pharmaceutical companies were facing from injuries far exceeded the revenue that those products accumulated. Manufacturers went bust or withdrew from the market. You would think that the typical and responsible action would be to simply make a safer product for any remaining pharmaceutical company. That’s how market forces work. However, Congress decided that they did not have to make a safer product. Instead, they could continue to sell harmful products and would be granted immunity to boot, thereby evading a lawsuit from anyone. Equally as awful, they made this law for any vaccine made for children from that day forward.

Subsequent to Congress’ ruling, drug companies now lacked the incentive to understand the safety profile for their vaccines before they were licensed. When it comes to other medical drugs, drug companies are very interested in knowing the safety profile because they are not immune in these cases. In the event of injury, they may very well have to pay for damages. But with vaccine clinical trials, there is no concern. Since the Vaccine Injury Act, Congress created the economic basis for this attitude. Pharmaceutical companies can make their money while taking the path of least resistance. And that path corresponded with the loosening of practices connected to clinical trials.

You can read more here:
[www.americanthinker.com...]

As long as vaccines have passed all the safety protocols and are proven to be effective and beneficial for children I see no reason why kids should not be vaccinated.

P.S. Remember the mRNA was said to have passed all safety protocols and one shot would protect us from Covid. FDA, CDC, the government and all involved agencies have lost credibility. That equates to a lack of trust in a huge number of people to believe in any organizations in charge of 'helping' us stay healthy through pharmacutacles.

It's straight forward.

Pharmaceuticals should be liable for all harms caused by their products.

Quoting for relevance

Qualified immunity by any other name is still criminal

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy

You obviously don't live in a blue state.

I live in California. You? You're in Oregan, right?

Illegals get a pass for practically everything.

Examples please.

Drivers license without proper paperwork
No vaccines


Every state is different Sookie. And some are more forgiving of the rules.

Here's a page that may be of interest:

I just had to recently jump through hoops to get a new license after mine had been expired for too long of a period. It didn't matter that I had provided all documents necessary to get the initial license. And no new or changed information. Had to go and get replacement documents for the originals I had initially shown. And yes, I thought of the illegals from all over the world entering our borders that don't have to jump through the same hoops.


I know in Oregon, at one time years ago, they busted a DMV employee for giving licenses to illegals while getting paid under the table. But that's different.

Also, vaccine mandates:

Migrants not required to get COVID-19 vaccine at detention ...

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Sep 21, 2021 — Immigration and Customs Enforcement says it “cannot force individuals in detention to be vaccinated” but does encourage vaccinations.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Edit: My bad seem to have been confusing Mississippi with Missouri. LoL

Mississippi doesn't look much better through given it still seems to be one of the 5 states that have no official minimum age, where underage marriage is still possible with either parental consent or court approval.

So not really any wonder they are willing to entertain religious exemptions for childhood vaccinations.

a reply to: StoutBroux

It didn't matter that I had provided all documents necessary to get the initial license. And no new or changed information. Had to go and get replacement documents for the originals I had initially shown.

I get it, but "Unauthorized immigrants also have to provide the same documents and proof of identity. They aren't exempt of the same rules you have to follow. I would think you would be happy that at least the government knows where these "unauthorized immigrants" are and that they're able to get auto insurance.

Migrants not required to get COVID-19 vaccine at detention ..

Neither were inmate at state and federal correctional facilities, jails and prisons. No special treatment.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You are a liar.

As of May 2022, sixteen states and the District of Columbia allow immigrants who are unable to provide social security to get a modified driver’s license. These states include California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Virginia, New York, New Jersey, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Vermont, Oregon, and Washington.[1]

www.wikihow.com...

An illegal hit our parked vehicle, had no paperwork to be in our country, no driver's license, no vehicle insurance or plates - nothing.
We were liable for $5,000 in damages and had to rent a car also.
Police did nothing to this man, let him walk away. I argued with the officers, saying that as an American citizen I would be arrested on the spot for driving with no license, and for hitting a vehicle and having no insurance or plates.
Their reply: We don't do anything to them (illegals).
A friend of ours was rear-ended by a woman who ran a traffic light and totaled his car.
Same town as us, the police did nothing to this illegal woman who had no paperwork or license, she walked away and he was left to purchase another car.
He is still furious, as are we.

a reply to: RonnieJersey

We hear about these things and worse all the time.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: RonnieJersey

We hear about these things and worse all the time.

If this isn't special treatment, I don't know what is. Laws which Americans must follow, and none for everyone else.

Aren’t Mississippi hospitals suffering?

This seems like a real bad idea.

originally posted by: RonnieJersey

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: RonnieJersey

We hear about these things and worse all the time.

If this isn't special treatment, I don't know what is. Laws which Americans must follow, and none for everyone else.

Agreed.

And they're doing it on purpose.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlienBorg

Edit: My bad seem to have been confusing Mississippi with Missouri. LoL

Mississippi doesn't look much better through given it still seems to be one of the 5 states that have no official minimum age, where underage marriage is still possible with either parental consent or court approval.

So not really any wonder they are willing to entertain religious exemptions for childhood vaccinations.

Part of the article in the OP

In April, U.S. District Judge Sul Ozerden ordered Mississippi to join most other states in allowing religious exemptions from childhood vaccinations

Mississippi isn't the only State to allow exemptions from vaccinations or other medical procedures.

If you think exemptions are necessarily a bad idea think of the Covid mandates or the possibility of mandating these bogus vaccinations for kids who have effectively zero risk from the disease.

a reply to: AlienBorg

If you think exemptions are necessarily a bad idea think of the Covid mandates or the possibility of mandating these bogus vaccinations for kids who have effectively zero risk from the disease.

Perhaps polio will return to Mississippi. The anti jab sentiments will vanish fast once the crippled kids start being born.....again.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: AlienBorg

If you think exemptions are necessarily a bad idea think of the Covid mandates or the possibility of mandating these bogus vaccinations for kids who have effectively zero risk from the disease.

Perhaps polio will return to Mississippi. The anti jab sentiments will vanish fast once the crippled kids start being born.....again.

Polio has really exploded in Amish communities. And also, seemed to really disappear in parallel to sanitization and hand washing standards many decades ago. The vaccine, not so much. It's too bad they don't seem to ever want to do testing of any childhood vaccines against placebo control groups.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: AlienBorg

If you think exemptions are necessarily a bad idea think of the Covid mandates or the possibility of mandating these bogus vaccinations for kids who have effectively zero risk from the disease.

Perhaps polio will return to Mississippi. The anti jab sentiments will vanish fast once the crippled kids start being born.....again.

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Part of my OP (first paragraph)

As long as vaccines have passed all the safety protocols and are proven to be effective and beneficial for children I see no reason why kids should not be vaccinated

You need to be able to differentiate between safe and effective and bogus vaccines. Once it's clear a vaccine is bogus or a product for which you have no information or guarantee about its effects then you can use all the weapons you have to avoid and reject mandates. Religious views is a powerful tool.

a reply to: AlienBorg

I don't imagine Mississippi is the only state to allow exemptions from vaccinations or other medical procedures.

However, vaccines help prevent illnesses like Diphtheria, Flu, Hepatitis A & B, Chickenpox, Measles, Mumps, Polio, Meningococcal, Rubella, Whooping Cough, and many other preventative diseases, other than just COVID 19 AlienBorg.

Plenty of risks where the likes of the above illnesses and children are concerned that can be severely mitigated via a simple injection aka a vaccine.

Each to their own would be my thinking on the matter.

If people don't wish their kids to be vaccinated, well good luck to the little fellows, I'm sure god will protect them.

And if not, well that's their parent's fault who obviously did not pray hard enough.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: AlienBorg

I don't imagine Mississippi is the only state to allow exemptions from vaccinations or other medical procedures.

However, vaccines help prevent illnesses like Diphtheria, Flu, Hepatitis A & B, Chickenpox, Measles, Mumps, Polio, Meningococcal, Rubella, Whooping Cough, and many other preventative diseases, other than just COVID 19 AlienBorg.

Plenty of risks where the likes of the above illnesses and children are concerned that can be severely mitigated via a simple injection aka a vaccine.

Each to their own would be my thinking on the matter.

If people don't wish their kids to be vaccinated, well good luck to the little fellows, I'm sure god will protect them.

And if not, well that's their parent's fault who obviously did not pray hard enough.

And I agree with you. But you can't trust all vaccines and all medical interventions. Nor you can force through mandates unknown and experimental products like the Covid vaccines. Pharmaceuticals have paid billions in damages for harming people. There must be laws making them liable and other laws people can use to reject whatever is pushed or to get around mandates.

a reply to: andy06shake

god doesn't even come into it in the uk since it all has to be done through consent, no consent no jab.. its one of the reasons the uk struggled with the idea of mandatory jabs even with front line nhs staff.

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: andy06shake

god doesn't even come into it in the uk since it all has to be done through consent, no consent no jab.. its one of the reasons the uk struggled with the idea of mandatory jabs even with front line nhs staff.

Were some of your NHS staff dismissed based on mandates? I know the UK didn't have mandates for most of the time but it did mandate Covid vaccines for a short period but then backtracked as it was foolish.

a reply to: AlienBorg

Again each to their own.

Personally, I'm not up for playing spin the bottle where preventative disease is concerned.

As to Covid vaccines and children, where i hail from only children aged 6 months to 4 years old who were at increased risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19 were vaccinated if memory serves.

My 10-year-old certainly never received any COVID vaccine, or was offered one.

As to laws that hold people liable when things go wrong, i don't necessarily disagree.

My understanding though is that these religious exemptions are not just about COVID-19 vaccinations, but seemingly all vaccinations in general.

So again good luck to the poor wee sod whose parents choose to disregard vaccination down to their religious beliefs.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Like all the Amish who aren't sick?

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Polio has really exploded in Amish communities.