President Biden is Using a Shorter Stairway to Climb Aboard Air Force One.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

It's the Back of the Plane it's lower to the ground.

actually it's a ladder well on the underside of the air craft.

The a@@ end is not lower. there are two fore and aft. he's going up the forward ladder well. see the seal under the cock pit.

Does Biden now ride in the cargo section, with the freight?

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: carewemust

That staircase is the one that is built in to the lower part of the aircraft fuselage (as opposed to an external staircase that is rolled up to the aircraft). I'm not sure why they used that one for ingress in this case. The aircraft was departing Helsinki and maybe they didn't have a proper sized rollup staircase for a 747 at that airport. The Secret Service probably had some reason for that particular choice

In any case, those built in staircases differ from a standard residential staircase in several respects. First, residential staircases have a relatively fixed relation between the horizontal and vertical spacing of the steps that is designed to accommodate older individuals who do not have the same range of motion as younger people. These built in staircases on aircraft are sometimes more like a ladder than a staircase. Second, it looks like the individual steps have rounded noses, which will facilitate slipping if the foot is not placed all the way onto the step. It looks to me like his stumble occurred when his foot slipped off the rounded nose of the step.

If your muscle memory is built on walking up and down residential staircases and you're suddenly confronted with something that doesn't fit that pattern, your probability of a mistake goes way up.

Thank-you for the technical and physiological briefing!

The White House should tell the FAA to order a portable escalator for every major airport, to replace the regular stairway.

Since Joe Biden says he's going to do another 4 year stint as President, a roll-up Escalator should be purchased by every nation who wants a Biden visit too.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
notice how he breaks into that phony "gallop" afterwards

he does this often every time

what does that mean?

I think he believes that that little jog will cover it up and no one will notice it's' more than just a casual stumble. Once, maybe, but he does it all the time. He likes to jog or at least used to , jog out to the microphone to give a speech. He maybe thinks he can prove is is not a doddering old man. Total fail.

Joe Biden says his mind tells him he's young, and macho.

But his confidence is waning quickly. Axios and the New York Times says he's yelling and cursing at even his most senior advisors now. And earlier today, he got frustrated and told a reporter that she "might not make it home tonight".

Source: nypost.com...

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: carewemust

That staircase is the one that is built in to the lower part of the aircraft fuselage (as opposed to an external staircase that is rolled up to the aircraft). I'm not sure why they used that one for ingress in this case. The aircraft was departing Helsinki and maybe they didn't have a proper sized rollup staircase for a 747 at that airport. The Secret Service probably had some reason for that particular choice

In any case, those built in staircases differ from a standard residential staircase in several respects. First, residential staircases have a relatively fixed relation between the horizontal and vertical spacing of the steps that is designed to accommodate older individuals who do not have the same range of motion as younger people. These built in staircases on aircraft are sometimes more like a ladder than a staircase. Second, it looks like the individual steps have rounded noses, which will facilitate slipping if the foot is not placed all the way onto the step. It looks to me like his stumble occurred when his foot slipped off the rounded nose of the step.

If your muscle memory is built on walking up and down residential staircases and you're suddenly confronted with something that doesn't fit that pattern, your probability of a mistake goes way up.

That’s a lot of typing and a really long winded excuse for a bumbling, stumbling idiot.
You on the payroll?

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: carewemust

That staircase is the one that is built in to the lower part of the aircraft fuselage (as opposed to an external staircase that is rolled up to the aircraft). I'm not sure why they used that one for ingress in this case. The aircraft was departing Helsinki and maybe they didn't have a proper sized rollup staircase for a 747 at that airport. The Secret Service probably had some reason for that particular choice

In any case, those built in staircases differ from a standard residential staircase in several respects. First, residential staircases have a relatively fixed relation between the horizontal and vertical spacing of the steps that is designed to accommodate older individuals who do not have the same range of motion as younger people. These built in staircases on aircraft are sometimes more like a ladder than a staircase. Second, it looks like the individual steps have rounded noses, which will facilitate slipping if the foot is not placed all the way onto the step. It looks to me like his stumble occurred when his foot slipped off the rounded nose of the step.

If your muscle memory is built on walking up and down residential staircases and you're suddenly confronted with something that doesn't fit that pattern, your probability of a mistake goes way up.

Saddest part about the above explanation is that you probably don't even realize you're deflecting accountability while trying to "help".

The 2020 election was LEGIT, right??

Well then guess what? OWN IT.

The fault sits squarely on the voters!

That's why I say if this renegade administration drags us into war, there will be another war here domestically.

Personally, I would've thought people would lose it over the realizations concerning the vax, but nope....not real enough yet I guess.

War is about has real as it gets so either way a reckoning is coming.

God help us.

a reply to: carewemust

Does Biden now ride in the cargo section, with the freight?

i'm pretty sure that where the the avionics communication bay and there is a ladder well that goes up into the mid level and upper decks, both fore and aft gives access to the cargo bay. been trying to find better diagrams then the ones i'm finding.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: carewemust

Does Biden now ride in the cargo section, with the freight?

i'm pretty sure that where the the avionics communication bay and there is a ladder well that goes up into the mid level and upper decks, both fore and aft gives access to the cargo bay. been trying to find better diagrams then the ones i'm finding.

Maybe Biden is happier there in the belly of the plane. Spinning records and relaxing in a big easy chair would make him feel right at home.

Staying in the bottom of the plane would also eliminate the possibility of him falling down the stairs while climbing up to the passenger compartment....no head bumps either. The blood-thinner meds make it dangerous to bump your head on the plane's inner structure.

Dam so this is now ATS

Why are people so invested in politics

I suppose it’s the end of the world for real now

And that commie-loving, socialist gimp of a president, FDR, had to be lifted onto planes and otherwise moved around in a wheel chair. Yet somehow he led the US to victory during WWII and got us out of the Great Depression.

Not that I am for Biden in 2024. Anything but. He is too old as it is. But making a big deal out of a shorter airplane stairway for him is nonsense.

You Trump lovers apparently had no problem with Trump's staff dumbing down his briefings, putting a lot of pictures in them and talking about him in them as well in order to keep his interest. As far as I know, Biden is receiving the more conventional briefings.

originally posted by: UpThenDown
Dam so this is now ATS

Why are people so invested in politics

I suppose it’s the end of the world for real now

Not invested so much as just sick of the insidious agenda that's reeking havoc around the world.

This is probably the most condensed, conspiratorial flap of our lives. What's your alternative? Can you dig us all a hole we can stick our heads in too?

This is merely a facet of ATS, not an overall representation. However, as long as the brunt of our bane is politically derived, that might be popular around here considering the amount of free minded members.

Plenty of other forums to visit and contribute to.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
And that commie-loving, socialist gimp of a president, FDR, had to be lifted onto planes and otherwise moved around in a wheel chair. Yet somehow he led the US to victory during WWII and got us out of the Great Depression.

Not that I am for Biden in 2024. Anything but. He is too old as it is. But making a big deal out of a shorter airplane stairway for him is nonsense.

You Trump lovers apparently had no problem with Trump's staff dumbing down his briefings, putting a lot of pictures in them and talking about him in them as well in order to keep his interest. As far as I know, Biden is receiving the more conventional briefings.

Please... comparing FDR to Biden in any way shape or form, what's next comparing JRB to JFK

He is the President of the US, we are basically at war if anything happens to Dumb then we have Dumber "running things"

Not to mention what a heavy and useless double side order of Trump whataboutism.

As far as I know... LOL

originally posted by: MrInquisitive


You Trump lovers apparently had no problem with Trump's staff dumbing down his briefings, putting a lot of pictures in them and talking about him in them as well in order to keep his interest. As far as I know, Biden is receiving the more conventional briefings.

You make it sound as if you were there for the briefings. Please provide proof of this "dumbing down" or you're being dishonest.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
And that commie-loving, socialist gimp of a president, FDR, had to be lifted onto planes and otherwise moved around in a wheel chair. Yet somehow he led the US to victory during WWII and got us out of the Great Depression.

Not that I am for Biden in 2024. Anything but. He is too old as it is. But making a big deal out of a shorter airplane stairway for him is nonsense.

You Trump lovers apparently had no problem with Trump's staff dumbing down his briefings, putting a lot of pictures in them and talking about him in them as well in order to keep his interest. As far as I know, Biden is receiving the more conventional briefings.

Please... comparing FDR to Biden in any way shape or form, what's next comparing JRB to JFK

He is the President of the US, we are basically at war if anything happens to Dumb then we have Dumber "running things"

Not to mention what a heavy and useless double side order of Trump whataboutism.

As far as I know... LOL

The topic of this thread is Biden apparently requiring a special stairway to get onto planes, so it seems a comparison to FDR and his physical handicap is quite germane to the subject. I'm not comparing their presidencies. JFK's physical infirmities weren't as obvious or known, and honestly he didn't come to mind. I took the obvious case of FDR to show that physical fitness isn't the best measure of a president.

As for your claim of whataboutism involving Trump. It seems if people are concerned about Biden's physical soundness and possibly his mental acuity as well, they ought to sure as poo be concerned about Trumps mental and intellectual fitness as president as well. If they don't, they clearly have a double standard in how they judge political leaders.

Don't know about you, but I generally only accuse someone of whataboutism if the whatabout matter is the only thing the person brings up. You chose to blow past my point about the physical infirmity of one of our great presidents, and why criticizing a president on the basis of their physical mobility isn't a good measure of the person as a leader. That's on you, not me.

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: UpThenDown
Dam so this is now ATS

Why are people so invested in politics

I suppose it’s the end of the world for real now

Not invested so much as just sick of the insidious agenda that's reeking havoc around the world.

This is probably the most condensed, conspiratorial flap of our lives. What's your alternative? Can you dig us all a hole we can stick our heads in too?

This is merely a facet of ATS, not an overall representation. However, as long as the brunt of our bane is politically derived, that might be popular around here considering the amount of free minded members.

Plenty of other forums to visit and contribute to.

Indubitably!
And most worthy of a bump

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: MrInquisitive


You Trump lovers apparently had no problem with Trump's staff dumbing down his briefings, putting a lot of pictures in them and talking about him in them as well in order to keep his interest. As far as I know, Biden is receiving the more conventional briefings.

You make it sound as if you were there for the briefings. Please provide proof of this "dumbing down" or you're being dishonest.

Google "trumps briefings dumbed down". There are any number of news reports on it. I'm not going to waste my time showing information that was widely reported during his presidency. Just the same I provided some links. Go read the articles if you honestly don't already know this was the case.

Dumbed-Down Security Briefings Still Too Difficult for Trump to Read

Internal Memo Shows Donald Trump's Daily Intelligence Briefings Are, Um, Very Dumbed Down

Intelligence Matters
The president has neither the background nor acuity to skimp on his regular briefings.

Trump Doesn't Read His Daily Intelligence Briefings; Prefers Big Pictures Instead

Classified Memo Tells Intelligence Analysts to Keep Trump’s Daily Brief Short

a reply to: carewemust

At that age, a stair lift would not be out of order, to be honest.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
And that commie-loving, socialist gimp of a president, FDR, had to be lifted onto planes and otherwise moved around in a wheel chair. Yet somehow he led the US to victory during WWII and got us out of the Great Depression.

Not that I am for Biden in 2024. Anything but. He is too old as it is. But making a big deal out of a shorter airplane stairway for him is nonsense.

You Trump lovers apparently had no problem with Trump's staff dumbing down his briefings, putting a lot of pictures in them and talking about him in them as well in order to keep his interest. As far as I know, Biden is receiving the more conventional briefings.

Please... comparing FDR to Biden in any way shape or form, what's next comparing JRB to JFK

He is the President of the US, we are basically at war if anything happens to Dumb then we have Dumber "running things"

Not to mention what a heavy and useless double side order of Trump whataboutism.

As far as I know... LOL

The topic of this thread is Biden apparently requiring a special stairway to get onto planes, so it seems a comparison to FDR and his physical handicap is quite germane to the subject. I'm not comparing their presidencies. JFK's physical infirmities weren't as obvious or known, and honestly he didn't come to mind. I took the obvious case of FDR to show that physical fitness isn't the best measure of a president.

As for your claim of whataboutism involving Trump. It seems if people are concerned about Biden's physical soundness and possibly his mental acuity as well, they ought to sure as poo be concerned about Trumps mental and intellectual fitness as president as well. If they don't, they clearly have a double standard in how they judge political leaders.

Don't know about you, but I generally only accuse someone of whataboutism if the whatabout matter is the only thing the person brings up. You chose to blow past my point about the physical infirmity of one of our great presidents, and why criticizing a president on the basis of their physical mobility isn't a good measure of the person as a leader. That's on you, not me.

Respectfully, I don't know about you, but for me in a debate, if my original point was strong enough there would have been no need for the added whataboutism

I'm suggesting if this President keeps falling down on the steps to AF1, on the stage at the AF graduation, on a bike while on vacation, clutching King Charles as he greets him, it's completely germane to be concerned. You do realize FDR's condition was hidden

Put him in a wheelchair and wheel his decrepit azz on AF1 then, cause we are one cracked skull and we have Madame Harris with zero International experience running the country on the brink of WWIII.

It's as simple as that.

if you don't understand this eventuality, that's on you

They should make a short plane just for him.

originally posted by: bounder
They should make a short plane just for him.

And get him a special helmet, although those are designed to protect a persons brain; never mind.

a reply to: MrInquisitive
I do not believe this thread is about Trump .