Would Aliens have to adopt basic humans rights to assimilate into earths mankind?

Source: Declaration on the Human Rights of Individuals who are not nationals of the country in which they live

Considering that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights proclaims that all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights and that everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in that Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status,

Considering that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights proclaims further that everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law, that all are equal before the law and entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law, and that all are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of that Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination,

The UN Declaration is for the inhabitants of the planet Earth.

Would Aliens have to adopt basic earthly humans rights to assimilate to earth’s mankind? Or would they not be obligated to do so?

What if the concept of earth’s human rights has no known meaning to Aliens? Would they have there own version of Alien rights….and so because of them being “advanced” societies…..it is we Humans that will have to adopt and assimilate to the tenants of Aliens.

I would think that old adage……when in Rome, do as the Roman’s do….would or should apply to Aliens.

The phrase 'When in Rome, Do as the Romans Do' refers to the importance of adapting yourself to the customs of the people who are in a certain place or situation and behave like they do. Example of Use: “Are you sure we should eat this with our hands?” Answer: “Why not? All of these people are eating it that way.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The problem is humans don't act accordingly, there are many human rights violations everyday, it's not globally accepted. So they would probably not feel compelled to follow the rule but instead do indeed "as the Romans do"

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The problem is humans don't act accordingly, there are many human rights violations everyday, it's not globally accepted. So they would probably not feel compelled to follow the rule but instead do indeed "as the Romans do"

The Roman’s through war conquered and enslaved quite a bit…

Will Aliens be our new “Roman’s”?

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The Romans were also the first where the idea of having rights as citizen emerged. Trade was their secret weapon.
So...
As long as you don't fight back it might be okay, just accept your inferiority and hope for the best

a reply to: Ophiuchus1
I don't think we'll ever see aliens in the open, or openly visit. And if it were to happen, I would assume people will be a**holes just like always.

a reply to: Peeple

While the Roman’s gave its conquered new “advances” in building the Roman way of society….over time Roman’s society collapsed. Would an Alien society on earth also collapse…

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

lol Roman's society didn't collapse, it changed form. The EU today, the Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation, Byzantium, by extent the US and the West are like the 5th edition of the Roman Empire

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

The Romans were also the first where the idea of having rights as citizen emerged. Trade was their secret weapon.
So...
As long as you don't fight back it might be okay, just accept your inferiority and hope for the best

Why do you automatically think humanity is inferior? FAWK they are in awe of our existence and are so mesmerized by our skills and bravado that they are too shy to even show themselves to us.

I will consider myself an equal to if not superior, well at least till they send me to the anal probing room. That would humble me quite a bit I would imagine

a reply to: putnam6

Yeah well, because I know from experience.
But being cute and fun is our best bet to be at least entertaining and trying not to kill everything and everybody at least on an individual level... some will be fine

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

lol Roman's society didn't collapse, it changed form. The EU today, the Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation, Byzantium, by extent the US and the West are like the 5th edition of the Roman Empire

Of course…….perhaps collapse wasn’t the word….perhaps I meant the Fall…

Fall of the Western Roman Empire

In any case….unless Aliens are

Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

I would think Aliens to live among us by our earthly human rights…..in principle.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I cannot image any aliens "assimilating" into our human culture. For what purpose?

To go native? To go hang out in Portland, San Fran or the bowels of Bombay for a weekend?

They are far beyond our pathetic state and obviously into the god stage with their light-speed conveyances. They are already making their plans evident for us through governmental actions that seem a bit strange and suspect. Think "equality and equanimity for you but not for me." The Chinese methodology is probably close to what they want for humans and something that strangely seems to be a great attraction for Western civilizations with their continually stricter surveillance of every aspect of our lives. Perhaps we can and must be trained into the "hive" state of being by their standards.

Some of us abductees know that the ETs can totally control our thoughts, memories and actions. Not to say they will or can do those procedures to everyone, but the human mind is fully capable of being a monk-like entity if that were to become the sought norm. Myself, I see that we have such a beautiful planet that we are spoiling in every respect. And I like to think that the ETs may appreciate our abode even more than we. There will be much they will teach us and just as much we need to lose of our natural, animal heritage.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I don't think aliens would have a problem treating all human equally. The question is, "Would they see themselves as equals to us?" Probably not.

The "When in Rome..." saying only applies to humans.

Would you expect a fish to do as the Romans do?
No, because it's a completely different species that doesn't even breathe air.

What if Earth isn't Rome?
What if Earth was a habitat created by the aliens and us humans are just squatters that moved in when they went out of town?

Most likely outcomes:
1. We are food
2. We are pests
3. We are slaves
4. They are here to help us

In any case, we will be the ones who assimilate.

Based upon decades of reports on aliens and how they treat humans, they often show that they feel they are superior morally to humans, and yet display the very same shortcomings like bloated pride, deceit, self entitlement and in many cases violence towards humans.

In rare cases they are benevolent and sometimes heal or reward people. If some "assimilate" into Earth's populations, they will do it silently until it wont matter if anyone knows.

a reply to: CloneFarm1000

this is an interesting thought... we might not be the indigenous inhabitants of earth

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: CloneFarm1000

this is an interesting thought... we might not be the indigenous inhabitants of earth

Perhaps that's why we call it and name it because of the bit we got to stand on first.

Maybe the moon should be renamed "dust", venus "acid" and mercury "metal" etc.

a reply to: nerbot

Right, we should call it water.

Even going with the comon linear evolution, you'd think life wouldn't wait to get on land to keep evolving. Add to that the huge amount of water on this planet our ignorance of the deep sea and the fact that life had much more time to evolve underwater it ever had since the time it went on land, altogether it's a good question, are we really the most evolved species on this planet?

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
The UN Declaration is for the inhabitants of the planet Earth.

No, it's for humans.

Would Aliens have to adopt basic earthly humans rights to assimilate to earth’s mankind? Or would they not be obligated to do so?

Many countries do not follow those human rights, even those that signed and ratified that document, why should Aliens?

I would think that old adage……when in Rome, do as the Roman’s do….would or should apply to Aliens.

That depends more on the Alien side than on our side, so unless we could force eventual Alien visitors to follow our rules and laws I don't see how we could convince them to do it if they didn't want to.

This does open up a can of worms. Some recent court rulings that anything plant / human / ect that has been genetically modified is now the property of that instigating corporation.

Some dogs are capable of a couple hundred words of communication. Mine ain't that sharp, but does know the word 'walk' and a few others. If we are to give any being with some cognitive capability the same as humans, then they do need to show the same responsibility. My dog ain't paying any bills.

As a farmer / gardener I kill a lot of stuff. I do try to save the worms when I can, it is not always an option on some jobs.

If some alien spices wants some human rights, it must demonstrate some human responsibilities.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: nerbot

Right, we should call it water.

The planet is not populated by people who can stand on water. Just ones who think they can walk on it.

And evolving from the sea to the land wasn't because we wanted to, it's because every living thing tries to survive being eaten by another living thing maybe.