Dems Losing Their Minds

a reply to: PorkChop96

What happened to racial equality? I thought that is what the Dems are all about, is making sure that all races are treated fairly and equally?

No. They haven't wanted equality since the 60's. They want equity. There's a big difference in the meaning of those words in wokespeak.

The goal is to create privileged classes of minorities and discriminate against anyone else who is not part of those classes. Equity doesn't just allow inequality, it demands it.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: PorkChop96

I can understand your dislike of the bill. Certainly I think it would of been better to enact some sort of reform. Maybe training for judges to make them aware of how minorities are treated more harshly by the courts. That way when sentencing Judges can apply similar sentencing to everyone.

There are plenty of black judges. Do they also treat black people harsher?
Also, using big cases, I have seen black people treating judges badly, whilst given all courtesy.
I also watch police cams and it's mostly the black filks who escalate situations, then shout "I am scared of you" to the police.
It's really in at the moment.

Maybe they seem to get treated somwtimes harsher because of their conduct?
Maybe they are more often involved in crime?
I have seen switched on black people managing to verbally stop police from harrassment.

I don't think their colour is treated badly in court. Novody cares, but people who answer back, take court in contempt, have committed horrible crimes, will not calm down etc are always treated worse than those who don't.
Regardless of pigment.

They are already looting and brazenly walking out of shops with thousands worth of items and don't get arrested.
I mean how much leniency will make white guilt better?

Letting them get away with so much has brought us to this point, where now we do need to take action. But if we do, the white guilt brigade calls us racist.

I'd say zero tolerance to crimes and criminals. All of them.
Letting some off because they have a tan is insanity.

a reply to: Hecate666

Agree completely! And the worst part is, the media, the left, the activists, the race hustlers, and the education system put the heavy chips on their soldiers that are clearly weighing them down.

It's a travesty that we don't treat minorities equally! We give them reasons to act up.

a reply to: Klassified

Creating a minority out of the majority always turns out well....

a reply to: PorkChop96

Democrats/Liberals used to echo the "Not their Color but their Character should be what's judged" advice from Martin Luther King, Jr..

Republicans/Conservatives are once again the fighters for Equal Treatment across the races....just like they were when they freed the slaves.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Klassified

Creating a minority out of the majority always turns out well....

Exactly.

a reply to: PorkChop96

You cannot complain about the government giving handouts to people. When corporations that make billions in profits get billions of tax dollars annually in the form of subsidies. The biggest welfare queens are these corporations.

a reply to: grey580

I can complain about what I please.

I have never claimed this was not a big problem, but that is not what this thread is about.

a reply to: carewemust

And yet, those on the right are forever labeled as racist/bigots/****phobes/etc....

Wonder why that is

sour grape psychology reaction tactics because the supreme courts said the 14th amendment stands and democrats like backwards swamp thinking chaos

What is a lesser sentence than zero where it seems to already be for minorities?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: JIMC5499

Woah there!!

Can't be having all of this logic and factual statements in my thread

I thought this was a conspiracy site? One of the biggest conspiracies there is, is why Democrats are not being held accountable for their role historically. That's why you see the push to get rid of anything Confederate.

a reply to: JIMC5499

Can't be having the bread crumbs of their failures showing for the world to see. Even thought those with the knowledge are well aware of what has been done and what will be done by the left for years to come.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: PorkChop96

What happened to racial equality? I thought that is what the Dems are all about, is making sure that all races are treated fairly and equally?

No. They haven't wanted equality since the 60's. They want equity. There's a big difference in the meaning of those words in wokespeak.

I remember when that "equity" meme was making the rounds.
I made a few small changes

a reply to: PorkChop96

From the link, I think this person has it partly right:

Jones-Sawyer didn't respond to a request for comment to elaborate on his legislation. However, when asked about the bill, a fellow member of the Public Safety Committee told Fox News Digital that the justice system should be color blind rather than make decisions with one's race in mind.

"Our justice system is intended to focus on accountability for behavior without racial considerations," said Assembly Member Tom Lackey, a Republican. "The voice of victims and any potential repercussions for public safety should be our highest consideration when making decisions that directly impact California communities."

Our justice system is intended to focus on equal application of the law period, with no special considerations for anyone; not only racial considerations, but also social class, economic class, education, religion, sex, age, and so on and so forth. There should be NO special classes receiving special treatment -- whether good or bad -- so no such special treatments for a special class should be written into law.

If there are disparities in sentencing, then it seems to me that the focus needs to be on the judges doing so. Whether it's Joe Black getting a tougher sentence than Joe White for similar crimes, or if it's Joe White getting a harsher sentence than Rich White or Jane White. Perhaps an oversight committee of sorts, that could be petitioned by defendants when they believe the have been treated harsher than others for similar crimes. If the oversight committee agrees, they could send the case back to the judge for re-sentencing, or send it to an appeals court for their determination, etc. Any judge who is found to routinely hand down disparate sentences should be sanctioned.

We are at a point in history where special treatment for special classes is the go to answer for everything. But if we really want equality under the law, then the law cannot and must not include special classes and special treatment.

a reply to: PorkChop96

It's cultural Marxism.

And it's "equity", not equality.

Equality is racist because it doesn't guarantee an outcome.

EDIT to add; Klassified beat me to it.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: PorkChop96

I thought that is what the Dems are all about, is making sure that all races are treated fairly and equally?

I think it's been proven repeatedly that minorities do not get treated the same in the courts. Usually with higher convictions and tougher sentencing. Everyone should be treated the same under the law. The reality is that they are not. It would seem that this bill is trying to rectify that.

I think it's more due to economics rather than racism, get a sh@tty lawyer/public defender..you are screwed.

a reply to: PorkChop96
You're right. They clean up those "crumbs" and then teach "Social Science" in schools instead of History and their deeds go away in a generation.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: PorkChop96

I thought that is what the Dems are all about, is making sure that all races are treated fairly and equally?

I think it's been proven repeatedly that minorities do not get treated the same in the courts. Usually with higher convictions and tougher sentencing. Everyone should be treated the same under the law. The reality is that they are not. It would seem that this bill is trying to rectify that.

I think it's more due to economics rather than racism, get a sh@tty lawyer/public defender..you are screwed.

Yep, if all these statistics were broken down and interpreted honestly I suspect that we would see that this is a class issue and not a race issue.

Data and statistics are commonly used to forward agendas.

I know plenty of coloured folks and white folks that are wealthy. I also know lots that are dirt poor.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: PorkChop96

I thought that is what the Dems are all about, is making sure that all races are treated fairly and equally?

I think it's been proven repeatedly that minorities do not get treated the same in the courts. Usually with higher convictions and tougher sentencing. Everyone should be treated the same under the law. The reality is that they are not. It would seem that this bill is trying to rectify that.

I think it's more due to economics rather than racism, get a sh@tty lawyer/public defender..you are screwed.

Yep, if all these statistics were broken down and interpreted honestly I suspect that we would see that this is a class issue and not a race issue.

Data and statistics are commonly used to forward agendas.

I know plenty of coloured folks and white folks that are wealthy. I also know lots that are dirt poor.

Yes, absolutely, money fixes a lot of things, no matter your race.