On July 26th 2023 Hunter Biden Will Confirm or Deny the Laptop is His.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Fairtrade141

The shop owner handed over data that he copied from the laptop to the FBI, Trump and Bannon, who then used it to try and make Joe look bad

The FBI had to seize the laptop from him later.

politically motivated RAT.

Lol, he reported crimes, and he owned the item that contained the evidence, per HB’s signature on the work order.
But somebody called it revenge porn. Even though the computer guy and HB had no relationship whatsoever.
That’s just embarrassing.
But no embarrassment to be seen from so many people on ATS. Bless their little hearts. They try.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: opethPA

Very nice of a Trump apologist to call a dead congressman of color a "frog faced moron", and claiming he heard the utterance in question by the deceased individual just the other day, but that's not on you, @opethPA.

As for Cumming's claim regarding the Voting Rights Act, it's not entirely wrong. In the House it passed by a 333–85 vote (Democrats 221–61, Republicans 112–24), most, if not all of the nay-saying Democrats becoming Dixiecrats who then switched over to the Republican party. In the Senate the bill passed by a 77–19 vote (Democrats 47–16, Republicans 30–2); only senators representing Southern states voted against it. So GOP senate votes did help to make it past a filibuster.

Do keep in mind that back then, the South was dominated by the Democratic party. The Democrats knew this would cause a schism in their party, which it did. LBJ, a Democrat, used his political capital as president to push it through, lamenting afterwards to Bill Moyer, his press secretary, "Well, I think we [The Democrats] may have lost the south for your lifetime – and mine." Being that Bill Moyer is 89, LBJ's statement will in all likelihood bear out.

‘We may have lost the south’: what LBJ really said about Democrats in 1964

So the Democrats knowingly did take a massive political hit for the Voting Rights Act, whereas the GOP gained a bunch of racist ex-Democrats who chose to go over to the more conservative of the two parties, and likely to spite their old party and its sell-out (to them) Texan president as well.

Was what Elijah Cummings said at a presidential convention a bit of political hyperbole? Sure. Do a lot of politicians spout hyperbole at presidential conventions? In the immortal words of Sarah Palin, "You betcha!" Trump said in his 2016 nomination speech that "We will be a country of generosity and warmth. But we will also be a country of law and order." Separating children from their parents and putting children in cages is not generally considered generosity or warmth. And as for being a country of "law and order", ahem, *cough* twice-impeached *cough* 71 indictments and counting *cough* *cough* fomenting a seditious riot *cough* *cough*. Trump also brought up the point that Obama doubled the debt (in 8 years) to $19 billion, yet Trump in one term raised it by $7.8 billion, so he actually did worse than Obama in this regard. But that doesn't mean I am going to call him an obese, lying POS.

Haha, now “frog” is racist. Living without the embarrassment gene, what a hoot.
And yes, we can hear dead people say things any day of the week. We have the technology.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

No different than a car left at a shop, mechanics lien if they don’t pay or leave it.

I think his admission was when he went after the dude legally for sharing private data, can’t do that if it’s not yours. And you can’t get upset if you forfeited your own data, just like I can’t sue websites for selling my stuff after I sign their T&C.

If you lose your car to a mechanic’s lien for being a brain dead moron and never paying the bill ….. you also can’t demand the nude photos that were in the glove box. Or any other stuff in the car, cash / weed / whatever.
Laptop = same exact thing. The car mechanic and computer mechanic own the item in question, and everything in it, and can do whatever the hell they want to do with it all.
But the same old crew is whining “nuh-uh did not no you can’t it’s not fair !!!” Haha, can’t be embarrassed even when they schite their little panties.
Lefties sure are creative liars and fantasy drama queens.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: carewemust

Weed is legal in California. Him hitting a bong is no different than him drinking a beer. No need to clutch your pearls, or use a fainting couch.

It’s an indicator that he’s a non-serious bum, the perfect legal rep for the Biden bum family. When you’re wandering around on your balcony for all to see, greasy long hair flopping around, in what looks like your sleeping clothes, choking down a big old hit on your bong, grinning at your admiring lefty followers, you’re a great democrat icon lol. And a really fine picture of a barrister.
Drinking’s legal too, so we should giggle and applaud him for stumbling around sucking on a bottle of vodka.
Integrity, honor, credibility…… all struck from the lefty language.

a reply to: stevieray

Exactly right. And to support what you said...

Hunter Biden is set to appear in federal court in Wilmington, Delaware, on Wednesday July 26th, where he will plead guilty to two misdemeanor counts of failing to pay taxes and has already reached a pretrial agreement on a felony gun charge. But a bigger fight continues between GOP lawmakers and the White House.

IRS Special Agents Greg Shapley and Joseph Ziegler appeared before a joint hearing in the House Wednesday, accusing the president’s son of receiving special treatment during a yearslong investigation by the Department of Justice.

“At every stage, decisions were made that benefited the subject of this investigation,” Shapley said.

Charges against Hunter Biden focused on tax fraud and a firearm offense; he agreed to a plea deal last month, which Republicans have criticized as a “slap on the wrist.”

IRS agents Shapley and Ziegler had been assigned to the case. They told House members that DOJ officials restricted their efforts and the overall investigation.

“It appeared to me, based on what I experienced, that the U.S. attorney in Delaware in our investigation was constantly hamstrung, limited and marginalized by (DOJ) officials as well as other U.S. attorneys,” Ziegler testified.

Source: www.usatoday.com...

If the Judge was watching the IRS Whistleblower's testimonies, might he decline to accept the "sweetheart" plea deal on Wednesday? After all, what Hunter is guilty of is far more serious than misdemeanors. He literally skipped out on paying millions of dollars in taxes and fees.

Let you or I try that!

TOMORROW (Wed 7.26.2023) A Judge will either Approve or Disapprove of Hunter Biden's "Plea Deal".

Earlier today....

The judge who will review Hunter Biden’s plea deal on Wednesday accused a member of Biden’s legal team of misrepresenting herself in a phone call to the court — a bizarre episode that prompted the judge to threaten sanctions even as Biden’s lawyers insisted it was all a misunderstanding.

In a brief order Tuesday afternoon, U.S. District Court Judge Maryellen Noreika wrote that an employee at Latham & Watkins, the main law firm representing the president’s son, had called the court clerk’s office and falsely claimed to work for a Republican lawyer in the hopes of persuading the clerk to remove documents that apparently contained Biden’s personal tax information.

More at: www.politico.com...

I don't know what the Employee at Latham and Watkins was trying to do exactly. But Judge Noreika seemed to be annoyed by it.

a reply to: stevieray

Hmm, guess Hunter Biden today didn't confirm or deny the laptop in question was his. Why do people post threads with prognosticating titles when such claims using turn out to be a pile of poo?

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: MrInquisitive
a reply to: opethPA

Very nice of a Trump apologist to call a dead congressman of color a "frog faced moron", and claiming he heard the utterance in question by the deceased individual just the other day, but that's not on you, @opethPA.

As for Cumming's claim regarding the Voting Rights Act, it's not entirely wrong. In the House it passed by a 333–85 vote (Democrats 221–61, Republicans 112–24), most, if not all of the nay-saying Democrats becoming Dixiecrats who then switched over to the Republican party. In the Senate the bill passed by a 77–19 vote (Democrats 47–16, Republicans 30–2); only senators representing Southern states voted against it. So GOP senate votes did help to make it past a filibuster.

Do keep in mind that back then, the South was dominated by the Democratic party. The Democrats knew this would cause a schism in their party, which it did. LBJ, a Democrat, used his political capital as president to push it through, lamenting afterwards to Bill Moyer, his press secretary, "Well, I think we [The Democrats] may have lost the south for your lifetime – and mine." Being that Bill Moyer is 89, LBJ's statement will in all likelihood bear out.

‘We may have lost the south’: what LBJ really said about Democrats in 1964

So the Democrats knowingly did take a massive political hit for the Voting Rights Act, whereas the GOP gained a bunch of racist ex-Democrats who chose to go over to the more conservative of the two parties, and likely to spite their old party and its sell-out (to them) Texan president as well.

Was what Elijah Cummings said at a presidential convention a bit of political hyperbole? Sure. Do a lot of politicians spout hyperbole at presidential conventions? In the immortal words of Sarah Palin, "You betcha!" Trump said in his 2016 nomination speech that "We will be a country of generosity and warmth. But we will also be a country of law and order." Separating children from their parents and putting children in cages is not generally considered generosity or warmth. And as for being a country of "law and order", ahem, *cough* twice-impeached *cough* 71 indictments and counting *cough* *cough* fomenting a seditious riot *cough* *cough*. Trump also brought up the point that Obama doubled the debt (in 8 years) to $19 billion, yet Trump in one term raised it by $7.8 billion, so he actually did worse than Obama in this regard. But that doesn't mean I am going to call him an obese, lying POS.

Haha, now “frog” is racist. Living without the embarrassment gene, what a hoot.
And yes, we can hear dead people say things any day of the week. We have the technology.

I don't know if you actually read what I wrote, but I provided evidence that the overwhelming majority of non-southern Democrats did vote for the Voting Rights Act, and that the southern Democrats who voted against it, i.e. Dixiecrats, switched over to the Republican party.

Also don't know how you got the impression that I wrote anything suggesting Cummings was racist. People calling this dead congressman "frog" are another matter.

As for your statement about being able to see dead people speak any day of the week, that's a incoherent response to what I wrote. The person whom I pointed out was lying said this:

I am sick of the double talk and lies of the democrat party. Just the other day a frog faced moron Elijah Cummings said that democrats gave black people the right to vote. He is a liar. Democrats voted against it. Every democrat is a con, a liar, traitor, potential assassin, and worse.

He said "just the other day a frog faced moron Elijah Cummings said that democrats gave black people the right to vote." He's claiming that Cummings said this just the other day, when he has been dead since 2019. He didn't say he saw an old video of Cummings the other day saying something. He specifically said that Cummings said it "the other day", as in not too long ago. Either you have really poor reading comprehension or you're being quite disingenuous.

The poster in question went on to falsely claim the Democrats voted against the Voting Rights Act, when in fact the majority of Democrats voted for it. This is particularly ironic because the person claiming Democrats are liars is the person who in fact lied.

And claiming that "Every democrat is a con, a liar, traitor, potential assassin, and worse." is just the usual hateful, false ad hominem attack crap that Republicans like to spew. It seems most all of you right wingers have to lie, make things up or willfully ignore the arguments made your opponents, in your attempt to win an argument.

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: network dude

No different than a car left at a shop, mechanics lien if they don’t pay or leave it.

I think his admission was when he went after the dude legally for sharing private data, can’t do that if it’s not yours. And you can’t get upset if you forfeited your own data, just like I can’t sue websites for selling my stuff after I sign their T&C.

If you lose your car to a mechanic’s lien for being a brain dead moron and never paying the bill ….. you also can’t demand the nude photos that were in the glove box. Or any other stuff in the car, cash / weed / whatever.
Laptop = same exact thing. The car mechanic and computer mechanic own the item in question, and everything in it, and can do whatever the hell they want to do with it all.
But the same old crew is whining “nuh-uh did not no you can’t it’s not fair !!!” Haha, can’t be embarrassed even when they schite their little panties.
Lefties sure are creative liars and fantasy drama queens.

Evidently you didn't read my post about the matter of data on the computer, so here it is again:

If the computer repair shop owner sold or gave away any customer's computer, no matter how long it had sat around and if the work had not been paid for, it is both an ethical and legal breech not to have wiped the hard drive first -- and I mean a thorough, DoD-level wipe, not just a deletion of files. I've worked for a computer/electronics recycling and refurbishing business, and the cleaning or destruction of hard drives was the number one priority of the organization, because it would be legally liable for any original owner's data that fell into the hands of anyone else, be it an employee or customer buying a refurbished computer or hard drive.

Property rights to the physical computer are different from privacy rights having to do with the material on the computer from the original owner.