Since God

Since God angels have taught humanity wrong ways and have been in transgression themselves yet these beings can be here

Times and times good and evil has never gone unnoticed, yes, seen and noticed by God.

Insanity is very common.

Then let us provide our food.

God"s beloved sinned before Adam and sinned Adam into sin and now we run to the shops for nutrition.

Now people search for good and evil, abuse their children to confiscate twisted melodies unnatural to the surrounding what makes her realise she is crazy with light organising the male society as a woman with smithereens of confusion to, maybe, be able to do the dishes or somewhat mow the lawn.

Now,.. the angels,
brothers of men,
brothers of men, they are like batteries in disc mingles with some broken stones made to be jewellery or what this crystalline things supposed to be.

Ok, with her practices she can manage to have sexual intercourse with anyone she wants to but neither does she require evidence of it being good nor of it being bad.

She wishes you all goodbye.

As usual, disturbing replies are your own and everything you do are you responsible for.

a reply to: Untun

Whether you know it or not good / evil here on earth is a 50 / 50 split between God and Satan with free will being given man to choose what side he / she and the others wish to walk.

Either to the light or to the dark.

I choose to walk towards the light although I am not even close to being a saint. I also don't wear religion on my sleeve but I do believe in God.

Sorry for the spelling in the OP.

No, God does not sit at his own left hand like some others might be.

Thank you for understanding.

We are all born in the middle of a universal war being waged between God and his holy angels and Satan and his wicked angels, a war that has been raging for thousands of years.

God is very well aware we are not at fault in this matter. It is true, our forefather Adam was perfect and he sinned knowing full well the consequence. And he passed on that sin to his progeny. So we all are born sinners and we grow old and die.

But God in his love provided the ransom to redeem humanity back to perfection. He is aware that we are weak and born in sin and ignorant, and in his loyal love he extends us patience and mercy:

"Jehovah is merciful and compassionate,
Slow to anger and abundant in loyal love.
He will not always find fault,
Nor will he stay resentful forever.
He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor has he repaid us what our errors deserve.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So great is his loyal love toward those who fear him.
As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset,
So far off from us he has put our transgressions.
As a father shows mercy to his sons,
Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him.
For he well knows how we are formed,
Remembering that we are dust.
Psalms 103:8-14.

"Regarding whatever our hearts may condemn us in, because God is greater than our hearts and knows all things."-1 John 3:20.

a reply to: randomuser

I don't know why you insist on calling Him 'Jehovah'. His Name is Yahweh YHWH.
The Jews were and are the witness of 'Jehovah'. What did you witness?

Zealous proselytizers tend to turn more people away they they convert, IMHO. If they truly believed what they espouse they'd spend a whole lot more time on their knees praying than on their soapbox preaching.

Like John the Baptist?
Would it be insensitive to tell somebody they're occupying a burning building?
a reply to: nugget1

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
a reply to: randomuser

I don't know why you insist on calling Him 'Jehovah'. His Name is Yahweh YHWH.
The Jews were and are the witness of 'Jehovah'. What did you witness?

I love the name of my God and Father. Who that professes to love or serve God hates his name?

You are true that Israel was once Jehovah's dedicated nation and called to be Jehovah's witnesses. They were rejected by God when they conspired to have his son put to death and hung on a torture stake. Since then the anointed Christian congregation has been Jehovah's witnesses.

Here is something for you to consider. Do you know where the word martyr comes from? It does mean someone that is willing to give their life for a cause. But originally it became known by that definition because of the 1st century Christians, followers of Jesus Christ, who were willing to give up their lives in order to witness about Jesus and his Father Jehovah God. Did you know the word martyr actually comes from the Greek marʹtys, meaning “witness.”

Yes a martyr literally means "witness." How did it come to mean to give up one's life for what you believe in? Because those first-century witnesses were witnessing about the wonderful truths of Jesus' gospel and willing to die for it. Many of them were put to death for witnessing about Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ. They were willing to be beaten, arrested, slandered, stoned, and often times put to death. The same is true today, being a true witness means having to suffer all of this for the glorious name of Jehovah as his witnesses or "martyrs" in Greek. And the work they have of bearing witness to the name of Jesus.

"So the dragon became enraged at the woman and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her offspring, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness concerning Jesus."-Revelation 12:17.

"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."-Matthew 24:14.


“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” “I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God."-Isaiah 43:10-12.

"Let me praise Jehovah.
O Jehovah my God, you are very great.
With majesty and splendor you are clothed."
-Psalm 104:1.

"Praise Jah!
א [Aleph]
I will praise Jehovah with all my heart
ב [Beth]
In the assembled group of upright ones and in the congregation."
-Psalm 111:1.

"Praise Jah!
Let my whole being praise Jehovah.
I will praise Jehovah all my life.
I will sing praises to my God as long as I live."
-Psalm 146:1-2.

You quote the gospel, and yet by your own admission you are preaching another gospel. Paul warned such people were accursed and to stay clear of them. You don't believe Jesus is the Son of GOD? You're preaching another gospel.
You don't believe in blood transfusions? The blood of Jesus has no efficacy over you. You're preaching another gospel.
What does charles taize russell bring to the table that Jesus didn't?
a reply to: randomuser

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
You quote the gospel, and yet by your own admission you are preaching another gospel. Paul warned such people were accursed and to stay clear of them. You don't believe Jesus is the Son of GOD? randomuser

What?

I talk about Jesus Christ being God's son all the time. Just last night I wrote this on another thread:

All anointed follow Jesus' pattern. They are baptized in water and baptized with holy spirit, that baptism is the calling and choosing to heavenly life, the baptism of the holy spirit. This is being born from above, or born again. Not all who are baptized in water are baptized with spirit. But all who are baptized with holy spirit are also baptized in water, just as our adopted brother, and leader, the son of God, Jesus Christ also was.

Link

My writing is replete with the confessions that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and leans 100% on the gospels found in holy scripture.

If you are accusing me otherwise please provide proof.

Do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe in Jesus

I'd best not hijack this thread.
But I;ll ask one question before I leave.
How many gods do you believe in?
a reply to: randomuser

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
I'd best not hijack this thread.
But I;ll ask one question before I leave.
How many gods do you believe in?
a reply to: randomuser

One.

"Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength."-Deuteronomy 6:4-5.

"I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images."-Isaiah 42:8.

"And Jehovah will be King over all the earth. In that day Jehovah will be one, and his name one."-Zechariah 14:9.

“Which commandment is first of all?” Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength...The scribe said to him: “Teacher, you spoke well, in line with truth, ‘He is One, and there is no other besides him’.’"-Mark 12:28-30, 32.

"There is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him."-1 Corinthians 8:6.

originally posted by: Lucius Driftwood
Like John the Baptist?
Would it be insensitive to tell somebody they're occupying a burning building?
a reply to: nugget1

Not at all, but forcing your will and/or beliefs on another is the issue.

Zealot: A fanatically committed person.

Proselytizer: To convert (a person) from one belief, doctrine, cause, or faith to another.

Hypocrisy refers to the act of pretending to have a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles that one does not really possess.

Going door to door hounding people does turns far people off to religion than converts them IMHO.
I finally hung a sign on my door that says 'I will not discuss religion or politics with you.' It worked.

Non-intelligent beings are destructive in nature. EQ, IQ and common sense have not yet been applied to create understanding in them for them to gain these human tools to succes, the common sense to create care instead of the natural drive to destroy. We will walk the earth freed.

I am very confused in all the names of god being used in this thread.

Jahova is Zeus.
Yahweh is the horned god of the Canannites.
Christ is from Christos which is Horus the son of Isis.
Jesus means litterly son of Zeus.
The letter J did not exist two thousand years ago so Jesus could not have been a name then.

Greek, Egyptian or something else, which religion is being discussed?

Or are they all parts of the same attempt to control man.

God made everything. Mankind made god in the image of mankind along with making Lucifer, Saten, the Devil etc.. God is God, god isn't God. Mostly mankind follows god and not God.

I believe in God. I do not believe in organized religion.

a reply to: beyondknowledge2

Confusion serves you well.

Yet your faith remains.

Blessed are you.

^_^

a reply to: Lucius Driftwood

JW does not believe Jesus is God, only the Father.

a reply to: randomuser

We are all born in the middle of a universal war being waged between God and his holy angels and Satan and his wicked angels, a war that has been raging for thousands of years.

Imagine you be Paul, randomuser. Living in 1st century Rome at a time when the Roman emperor, imperial soldiers and much of the public believed in Mithraism (Mithra is the Zoroastrian God). How do you convince them of Christianity!

Paul answered that in In 1 Corinthians chapter 9.22 "To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.".

Paul became the Mithra priest to the Mithra. The magi recognizing Jesus as their returning savior were Zoroastrian Priests not Jewish Priests. The duality of Zoroastrianism/Mithraism embedded in his writings to win them over to Christianity. That is in direct contrast to Judaism, in which Deuteronomy 6:4 states "Hear O Israel: the LORD is our God, the LORD is One". There is no place in Judaism for god of light and a god of darkness.

So you need comprehend the writings of Christianity in such a way. That it has been structured to win multiple beliefs under the one banner of Christianity.

In Judiasm, God created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so we could experience enlightenment through our sensations. Experiencing love and hatred, unforgiving and forgiveness from both aspects of those natures. So sin has the greatest of purposes. Without which, we could never experience enlightenment. The problem is not sin in itself but stagnation in sin. Allowing our mind to follow known pathways, hoping for better results, does not aid enlightenment. So if we want be a pirate we should aim be best pirate we can be. If we want return to return to God. We should do so as if our hair be on fire.

Deuteronomy 30:11-14 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too mysterious for you, nor is it far off. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend into heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it".

That you may do it! If Jesus symbolized the son of man as your soul. The "seven" I AM statements in Gospel of John could be translated from:

“I am the bread of life.”
“I am the light of the world.”
“I am the door of the sheep.”
“I am the resurrection and the life.”
“I am the good shepherd.”
“I am the way, the truth, and the life.”
“I am the true vine.”

To:

“Your soul is the bread of life.”
“Your soul is the light of the world.”
“Your soul is the door of the sheep.”
“Your soul is the resurrection and the life.”
“Your soul is the good shepherd.”
“Your soul is the way, the truth, and the life.”
“Your soul is the true vine.”

Its a pity that you don't believe in your everlasting soul. God made Adam in His image. Adam be the soul of perfection that exists within you. Eve be your material body. The serpent symbolizes our ego that chases sensational bliss.

If we see ourselves as the serpent that chases sensational bliss, we will surely die, as that serpent returns to dust. Wishing that our dust body be regenerated is a desire of that serpent.

a reply to: glend

Good morning Glend. Thank you for the comment and reminder. I think one of the reasons Paul was able to become "all things to people of all sorts" is because he was studied. He was also observant. And obviously changed the way he gave a witness to a person or group of people based on where he was and what their beliefs were. Reading this brought a few examples to mind immediately.

One was when he was in Jerusalem and he was brought before the Sanhedrin, or the Jewish High Court for preaching Jesus' name. Paul formerly being a Pharisee himself, and studied at the very feet of Gamaliel, who became the father of modern-day Judaism knew very well that the Sanhedrin was divided between the Pharisees, who confessed there is a resurrection of the dead, and the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection. So he used this argument to defend himself:

"Now Paul, knowing that the one part was made up of Sadducees but the other of Pharisees, cried out in the Sanʹhe·drin: “Men, brothers, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees. Over the hope of the resurrection of the dead I am being judged."-Acts 23:6.

By simply stating this truth a division arose among the two factions and the Pharisees came to his defense, in fact this is what they said:

"So a great uproar broke out, and some of the scribes of the party of the Pharisees rose and began arguing fiercely, saying: “We find nothing wrong in this man, but if a spirit or an angel spoke to him—.”-Acts 23:9.

On another occasion when Paul was in Athens he gave a bold witness at the Areopagus. That is where the learned men would gather and ponder Greek philosophies. Paul knowing this and knowing that the Greeks were more superstitious and more thoughtful of the gods than other cultures used this in his witness. Notice how he artfully uses references from their own works and even an alter to an "unknown God" to declare the good news to them. I actually find this speech by Paul a magnificent one:

"Men of Athens, I see that in all things you seem to be more given to the fear of the deities than others are. 23 For instance, while passing along and carefully observing your objects of veneration, I found even an altar on which had been inscribed ‘To an Unknown God.’ Therefore, what you are unknowingly worshipping, this I am declaring to you. 24 The God who made the world and all the things in it, being, as he is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples; 25 nor is he served by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives to all people life and breath and all things. 26 And he made out of one man every nation of men to dwell on the entire surface of the earth, and he decreed the appointed times and the set limits of where men would dwell, 27 so that they would seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact, he is not far off from each one of us. 28 For by him we have life and move and exist, even as some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his children.’
29 “Therefore, since we are the children of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, like something sculptured by the art and design of humans. 30 True, God has overlooked the times of such ignorance; but now he is declaring to all people everywhere that they should repent. 31 Because he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.”-Acts 17:22-31.

I know it was a long quote but worth the read. There he quotes Greek philosphers, and points to their worship of deities. And uses logic to help explain the existence of the true God and give a witness about the resurrection. By his observing the practicies of the Athenians and thinking like them he was able to give a bold and worthy witness. Notice the outcome:

"32 Now when they heard of a resurrection of the dead, some began to scoff, while others said: “We will hear you again about this.” 33 So Paul left them, 34 but some men joined him and became believers. Among them were Di·o·nysʹi·us, who was a judge of the court of the Ar·e·opʹa·gus, and a woman named Damʹa·ris, and others besides them."-Acts 17:32-34.

So some men and women became believers. Just as he said in the scripture you quoted:

"I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some. But I do all things for the sake of the good news, in order to share it with others."-1 Corinthians 9:22-23.

He knew that not everyone would listen. But he changed the way he witnessed to the people depending on their cultural and religious backgrounds to try and save some that would have the right heart and listen.

So today, it would be foolish to use the Christian Greek scriptures when trying to convince a Jew who doesn't believe in them. But one could use the Hebrew scriptures to prove the witness about Jesus Christ and the resurrection. One would not use the Bible as an authority with an atheist who does not believe in God. Perhaps they could use the outward creation and first logically help them conclude that there is a God, and then share with them proofs that the Bible is God's word. With a Protestant one could use the scriptures freely as they believe the Bible is God's word. With a Catholic as well. Perhaps share scriptures with them pertaining to the resurrection hope. I find that just showing scriptures about the resurrection with these ones is enough many times to convince them of the sure hope from the Bible in a resurrection of the dead, something that would not be necessary if the soul was immortal, if a person never died and went to a heaven or a hell, or a purgatory instead. Many people have had their eyes opened by the simple truths found in the Bible, that already believe in it, although were never accurately taught what it teaches.

a reply to: Untun

Angles like the blake drawing if ones hand matches the pyramid they stepped on they open it and live in it and then wait to see if they can conquer the world without leaving the pyramid they make about 6 seals before that and eat a part of their body knowing the christ on failed and is dead in that area so most of them pay jew for the forty and then two real guardians that people mistake as angel eat as many demons as possible that fool rose while in their and then simply defecate on the guy looking like the jesus figure having found himself a mecca and well the end until the next "god" sort of mentality form out there touristing around light balls in the dark appears and does close to the same but the jesus guy is just in a different place than last time.