Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Originally posted by kolo_heights

I understand your point, but then what warrants a respondable request? Can you elaborate on these certain jobs?

A little cash under the table wouldn’t hurt----

Actually a response is a personal thing between the person and the ET which may or may not include physical contact

ETs are behind our inspirations, our technology, and everything that makes the world what it is

- Diseases like aids and cancer, does ET possess the cures for these? Perhaps they are holding back these cures to ensure Earth isnt overpopulated?

They have the cure for everything and they can unlock cures for anyone---if those in need ask nicely and then believe it possible----but that’s the hard part, belief is a powerful tool but most on this planet don’t have it in them to use that mental resource to their advantage

Also, people are placed into certain situations----pain and suffering are secondary concerns to the broader reality of life experiences

Overpopulation has nothing to do with anything and there is no such thing----they control how many people are on this planet and they can put a whole lot more down here, which is the plan

- I'm not doubting the credibility of your argument, but did ET "discuss" with you how you'd deal with the experience, and thus what your motive was to release your experience onto this forum?

Yes they have, most people think I’m just a smart as-s with nothing better to do, but the fact is this is part of my job on this big rock called earth during my exile

Sorry for this sleeper my friend-

Golemina if you don't get my point then maybe you haven't really read this whole thread. Sorry for yer luck.

Ok sleeper old pal continue. Or am I on ignore again?

Not very convincing fake story in my opinion.
Forced---writing style.

I KNOW my crayons are here somewhere...

Let's see... Red? nah. Yellow? ditto. Aha! Blue has always been my favorite color. Here we go...

The question was purely rhetorical big guy.



After 94... ah 95 pages... it's a fairly safe bet everyone at ATS knows your position. I was so hoping you could put a little more effort into this... besides sharing the contents of your DD-214 with us.

I'm sorry... I crack myself up.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

I guess I could have more clear Sleeper when I say things like 'abstract apsects of the warnings'. Though it's an entirely nonstandard use of the language/term... When I say abstract... I mean abstract as in something like a reality context and stepping outside of it looking in. If you repeat that a couple of more times, some might get to the viewpoint I'm bringing to this particular inquiry into the 'warnings'.

Though I appreciate, and understand the need for your approach considering the broad nature of your audience, I not really looking for or am interested in the vanilla didactic take (does it remind anyone of the great lecture halls? ).

I guess someone might characterize it as something more like a real dialogue/exchange. You've certainly got the horses...

I'll put aside this thing about the tsunami (and other ) warnings for now...

And ask your views about the curtain (some of us refer to it as the curtain of stupidity and arrogance) that slams down upon awakening. What's your take on that? While on the other side the perception seems to be that much much more is available in many many areas... matter of focus.

>For those of us that know about the curtain we have to live with ridicule should we chose to speak about it...

Ah! Consider the source.

No offense LongHairCowboy.

>Thanks for your nice comments

Render unto Caesar...

Originally posted by golemina
And ask your views about the curtain (some of us refer to it as the curtain of stupidity and arrogance) that slams down upon awakening. What's your take on that?

Regret of opportunities lost is the end result for those clothed in the muck of arrogance and stupidity----few escape the allure of those two great transgressions because down deep inside we all crave to be bad----that’s why we are here----didactic me my unintentional nature

On the other side of the curtain we find purity and truth, pain and anguish gone and our consciousness fully intact----we are on vacation for a time, then we contemplate our next curtain call----are we ready?----the curtains are many and can be no less confusing than a house of mirrors for those who indulged to much wine of folly and pride while on earth

While on the other side the perception seems to be that much much more is available in many many areas... matter of focus.

Like going to a Hong Kong street market, you can find anything and at a good price

Excuse me again sleeper......

Golemina you clearly have not followed this thread which is obvious by this statement-

I was so hoping you could put a little more effort into this... besides sharing the contents of your DD-214 with us.

I put a great deal of effort into responding here and what I got was harrassment from the sleeperites off forum(and through IMs).
I have gone through the National Archives and the Presidential Libraries to make my point. The person who made these claims didn't do half that.
I didn't make the claim but somehow I'm having to do the research???????


Back to your regularly scheduled fantasy.

Sleeper,

Lot of stuff in the science news recently about this massive black hole which they can now pretty much confirm exists at the centre of our galaxy. Scientists think that monitoring it will be a great way of testing the theory of relativity, i.e. to see how large bodies such as planets and the like react to it's gravitational pull.

What does ET say about black holes? Can they be utilised in any way to mould space/time or are they simply a hugely dangerous space phemonena?

Gaz

Originally posted by elgaz
Sleeper,

Lot of stuff in the science news recently about this massive black hole which they can now pretty much confirm exists at the centre of our galaxy. Scientists think that monitoring it will be a great way of testing the theory of relativity, i.e. to see how large bodies such as planets and the like react to it's gravitational pull.

What does ET say about black holes? Can they be utilised in any way to mould space/time or are they simply a hugely dangerous space phemonena?
Gaz

Hi Gaz

Black holes can’t be used by any living entities including ETs -----those that are at our level of existence-----which is way low in the food chain



Black holes are not dangerous to any life forms because life forms have long become extinct by the time solar systems enter into the gravitational field of Black holes

Black holes are key to the remanufacture of matter and without them and their powerful gravitation to stir the pot galaxies as we know them would be impossible

Galaxies are self-perpetuating and can exist forever----the hearts of galaxies are Black holes

Galaxies can merge and become bigger and parts of galaxies can breakaway by close encounters with other galaxies

If the breakaway star clusters are large enough they will eventually form their own Black holes and become baby galaxies

These baby galaxies get bigger as they journey through the universe sucking up matter of failed star clusters----those that didn’t have enough matter to form Black holes----they also merge with other small galaxies and grow bigger

Hi sleeper,

Do you know who built the Pyramids and Stonehenge ? What was (is) the purpose of these constructions ?

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Yes, i was taught this at school too. But recently I've heard the info that it is next to impossible to reproduce the same type of pyramids (which were built thousands years ago) even with all our latest technology..

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since when is a chisel, lever and skid new technology ? That indians jones wanna be guy on discovery channel went to the actual quarries that supplied the materials for the pyramids to see if it could be done.

with a stone chisel and simple hammer, he cut out a huge slab, levered it onto a skid, and moved it a foot or so


by himself !!!!

can you imagine if you did this all day long for years how skilled you would become ?


and if you had legions of labor at your disposal ?

its just a matter of getting enough men to work for la ong enough time,


or, if you watch stargate too much, the aliens made 'em.....


did aliens make all 7 wonders ?

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Originally posted by Leevi
Hi sleeper,

Do you know who built the Pyramids and Stonehenge ? What was (is) the purpose of these constructions ?

Hi Leevi


The Pyramids of Giza and Stonehenge were not built by men they were built by ETs and use by ETs to teach certain skills to the latest batch of humans and also for unspeakable castigation for special entities-----the Pyramids were not tombs for Pharaohs, they were holding pens for powerful creatures

The Pyramids identified this planet the same way we identify nuclear or other hazardous materials----this was not a planet for casual visitors----it was kind of like Alcatraz when it was in operation----a dangerous and unpleasant place to be

hey sleeper

please forgive me, I didn't read the whole thread. I thought you were only in a ship for a brief time, and were disoriented the whole time ?

do you have regular communication with aliens about alternative history ?
which language do you communicate with ?

please ask the aliens to provide you with more details on the creatures that were held in the pyramids (and send a script to MGM), and let them know stonehenge wasn't their best work, they can do better than that.

how are they connected to easter island and the bermuda triangle ?

txs

I've been reading along - yes, from page one. Having done a lot of reading and research on the subject of ufos and aliens, and a fair amount of reading about ancient civilizations and purported extraterrestrial involvement in our past, I'm finding that the things you're positing are couched in a very playful and conversational manner, but seem to be more than just frivolous responses to poster's questions.

You are obviously confident in your experiences - and your confidence alone I have to say is somewhat persuasive; however, I also find something intriguing in your answers. You have answered every question and added something fresh and new to a subject I find has been covered from every conceivable angle. And you don't present things in a sensationalistic way, or even seem to care either way. Also, there is a sense that there is much more information to back up your intriguing, but somewhat brief responses.

You're responding to pretty hefty material. And I'm finding that in all of the postings that I've read, there haven't been many contradictions if any at all. I can't name one that I've found.

So having piqued my interest, I wonder if you'll explain a couple of things a little more that you've recently posted. I actually think that you would have an interesting response to anything I asked...but I have to say that after going over the subject to find some good questions, I came to the conclusion that the further out one goes, the more irrelevant any answer would be to one's every day life. Really. Who cares about black holes? I'm more concerned about the fact that I have to work Monday, and a black hole isn't going to pay my rent...

So instead, I'll just ask you about a couple of your most recent posts just out of idle curiosity. Thank you in advance for any response. By the way, you seem like a pretty grounded individual. And I like your lighthearted attitude toward the whole thing. Either you've had some really strange, enlightening experiences, or you've studied this topic in depth and have one hell of a library...

You said, "Overpopulation has nothing to do with anything and there is no such thing----they control how many people are on this planet and they can put a whole lot more down here, which is the plan."

-- What did you mean their plan is to put a whole lot more down here?

In response to this quote: "While on the other side the perception seems to be that much much more is available in many many areas... matter of focus."

You said, "Like going to a Hong Kong street market, you can find anything and at a good price."

-- What sort of things? (Just curious. I won't bother asking about a soul, because I'm not sure I would understand what that was, nor am I sure I believe in them.)

And lastly, you said, "The Pyramids identified this planet the same way we identify nuclear or other hazardous materials----this was not a planet for casual visitors----it was kind of like Alcatraz when it was in operation----a dangerous and unpleasant place to be."

-- When/how did you come across this information? If it was imparted to you, then by whom and do you know why? Also, was this planet was used as a prison, or just certain areas? Is it still a prison, and if not, do you believe you know what this planet is used for now, and if so, what is it used for?

Just curious...the subject fascinates me...

Thanks!

You're responding to pretty hefty material. And I'm finding that in all of the postings that I've read, there haven't been many contradictions if any at all. I can't name one that I've found.

That's a joke right? Funny stuff that.
And you've read the whole thread you say?
Not likely.

Originally posted by OnTheDeck
You said, "Overpopulation has nothing to do with anything and there is no such thing----they control how many people are on this planet and they can put a whole lot more down here, which is the plan."

What did you mean their plan is to put a whole lot more down here?

Not an alien invasion---but more people will be born than die and the population of humans will grow considerably in the next hundred years

In response to this quote: "While on the other side the perception seems to be that much much more is available in many many areas... matter of focus."

You said, "Like going to a Hong Kong street market, you can find anything and at a good price."

What sort of things? (Just curious. I won't bother asking about a soul, because I'm not sure I would understand what that was, nor am I sure I believe in them.)

Everything we wish and dream of while here is real and easily accessible at levels above this existence, even things we consider science fiction or imaginary. As humans we have fragile bodies but in fact we are like superman----indestructible and could if we chose go into a Black hole and exit----simply for the experience----something matter and light can’t do---our essence is more exotic than matter and matter is darn exotic and baffling to our greatest minds

If we have trouble getting our heads around matter how much more something considerably more exotic?

And lastly, you said, "The Pyramids identified this planet the same way we identify nuclear or other hazardous materials----this was not a planet for casual visitors----it was kind of like Alcatraz when it was in operation----a dangerous and unpleasant place to be."

----When/how did you come across this information? If it was imparted to you, then by whom and do you know why? Also, was this planet was used as a prison, or just certain areas? Is it still a prison, and if not, do you believe you know what this planet is used for now, and if so, what is it used for?

I don’t know when I received that information but it’s been sometime ago----by ET---why do they give me this information, not sure why

This planet was/is use as a prison----in antiquity many thousands and hundreds of thousands of years earth was infinitely more brutal than now, and even our early civilization----those that casually tortured and sacrificed humans for religious, political, or simply entertainment----would have been horrified had they known what went on

It’s no accident that the human body is a pain machine it was made that way----today we are fortunate, we can only take so much and the body dies----in the old days that was not the case----and the wardens could place an entity into a human body or even into the body of an animal----and they could be killed or tortured indefinably

This planet remains a prison, some have it easier than others----and no one escapes----suicides are returned immediately or sent to a similar planet elsewhere. But there are exceptions for some suicides and for others

This planet is a prison because few can chose to leave it---but many people are here to learn something----not necessarily to expand their understanding of the big picture----that’s not important for the vast majority----countless humans are not here to learn anything they are simple incarcerated, doing time and once they leave they will be returned to this planet without knowing or vacation time in between the two lives



I can nonchalantly talk about things of this nature because most will not or cannot believe----and that’s a good thing

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
do you have regular communication with aliens about alternative history ?
which language do you communicate with ?

We don’t talk about alternative history on a regular basis but history as we presume to know it is mostly false

English is not my native language but that’s the medium they use with me

please ask the aliens to provide you with more details on the creatures that were held in the pyramids (and send a script to MGM), and let them know stonehenge wasn't their best work, they can do better than that.

The creatures did not all have physical bodies----however some were advanced souls---not the fallen angels of biblical fame-----some where used for secreting/synthesizing hybrid DNA

Stonehenge wasn’t their best work you say----neither are human bodies----some things are created inferior on purpose

how are they connected to easter island and the bermuda triangle ?

Easter Island was simply an ET outpost, one of the more active ones until the 1700s. The island was also used to isolate certain humans----I don’t know for what purpose

The Bermuda Triangle is like Area 51, it gets lots of press but the fact is they harbor no more unexplained phenomena than many other spots on this planet----and many are terrestrial in nature

Originally posted by sleeper
This planet was/is use as a prison----in antiquity many thousands and hundreds of thousands of years earth was infinitely more brutal than now, and even our early civilization----those that casually tortured and sacrificed humans for religious, political, or simply entertainment----would have been horrified had they known what went on

It’s no accident that the human body is a pain machine it was made that way----today we are fortunate, we can only take so much and the body dies----in the old days that was not the case----and the wardens could place an entity into a human body or even into the body of an animal----and they could be killed or tortured indefinably

Hi Sleeper -

What may a soul or entity have done to justify such incarceration?

What can a soul do to escape or free itself?

If this planet was and may still be a prison then what is a regular or vacation world like?

Thanks.

Thank you for responding. It IS clear (at least if one believes the statistics) that the population of the planet has grown, and is most likely still growing by leaps and bounds. It is also clear that we have come into some fascinating technology over the past 50 years, and advances seem to be moving at accelerated pace.

If these things are being orchestrated, then one has to wonder why...it's a great question...

It seems, however, that even without the theory of guidance, or orchestration by whatever source, and despite the warring and unstable nature of the human race, that we are moving forward; that eventually we will be leaving this planet. This in itself, along with the opening of our collective eyes more and more to the complexity of existence, and the comcomitant shedding of age old superstitions seems to be a maturation of the current human race.

However, if, as you say, this is being orchestrated, then to what end? It doesn't appear that our species is being punished, if it is, as it clearly seems, being nurtered along. And in particular aided in actually leaving the planet to explore space...something entirely different would be going on...

I'm not specifically trying to paint an optimistic picture, but the movement of things seems to be one in favor of our advancement and maturation...not a genecide, stagnation, punishment, or retardation of our developmnent.

There is one fine point, though, and that is that we could have done this on our own, and whatever outside presence may be trying to stop, or disable us from moving further with our own progress, but this doesn't seem to be the case. At least it appears so....

You also mentioned that the human body dies after a certain amount of pain/injury, but that this was not always so. Well, however that changed, or whomever changed it did it for our benefit it seems...

Also, I would point out that the length of this thread makes an interesting statement about sleeper and what he has to say...how many threads run close to 100 pages? I hope it keeps going...I sure would like to ask some more questions...